...really? You do not know how much of a demand there is for additional land?? The situation of which you said you have been monitoring??? REALLY????Quote:
Originally Posted by Bayohne
And Yoshi feels they've filled the demand with the expansion areas.
So they do not know the demand, but he feels they filled it. Erm. Yeah. I do believe some people from some servers would like to have a chat with him...?
Really, SE? [on housing]
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11-29-2014, 11:28 PMBreathlessTaoReally, SE? [on housing]
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11-29-2014, 11:38 PMThusFarJayI still have small plots up for grabs on my server. Though, I'm sure this will vary by world (legacy,etc). I'm sure the demand is still there, it's just not prevalent. People have either grabbed a spot, bought a FC house, changed goals, moved on or decided an FC room is good enough.Quote:
Originally Posted by BreathlessTao
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11-29-2014, 11:40 PMTaliph
Silly to think that there is no demand when people are willing to pay 12 mil to buy the chance to purchase a small plot.
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11-29-2014, 11:59 PMJillyBeanQuote:
Originally Posted by BreathlessTao
Really? What servers? I'm on a legacy world and there are still plots available in the new subdivisions. As people consolidate homes with eternal bond, or quit the game, or upgrade leaving old ones behind, or later if they make deeds tradeable, we just might have enough housing now. -
11-30-2014, 12:07 AMAirget
Um I think you are reading it wrong, the 2nd part of that sentence is in relation to the question asked not the demand of land itself.
Q26: Large size houses feel kind of empty. Can you increase the limit on the amount of furnishings that can be placed in houses?
A26: We had been prioritizing the addition of land and since we do not know exactly how much of a demand there
In this the question is asking will they increase the limit of the amount of furniture, in which they respond
They are prioritizing addition of land first and they don't know the demand in which people want to add additional furniture so they haven't focused on that first.
You have to keep in mind, by increasing the furniture cap it also increases stress on the server and what they've done instead is prioritize the amount of land that can be bought over adding any additional item limits to the current housing.
Think of it like this
Say small=20, medium=40 and large=80.
If you then increase the limit by 10 each then you are pretty much adding one half a small house per small/medium/large house and that in itself would mean there is more data going throughout the servers that needs to been kept in check. -
11-30-2014, 12:13 AMSulwynCaliopeThis question would be more related to what the OP was talking about. This is disappointing to me and my FC because we'd be saving up with the assumption that there'd be Ishgard housing wards at launch or very soon after launch. It seemed logical to us that this should happen based on the state of current housing wards on our server. We literally have 0 small plots left on the server in both the main divisions and subdivisions. They were all sold out within 2 weeks of the new subdivisions being implemented and we believed there to be a need for even more housing wards to meet this housing deficit. Sigh... At least we'll be able to channel the funds gathered so far towards airship and better prizes for fc events. :/Quote:
Q23: In the expansion we will be going to Ishgard, but will you be implementing housing areas in Ishgard as well?
A23: The war between humans and dragons is still being fought in Ishgard and it’s not really a safe place to live, so we will not be implementing housing areas at the beginning of the expansion. While we may implement it at some point in the 3.0 series, we aren’t at the point where we can promise any kind of time frame.
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11-30-2014, 12:16 AMViridianaSmallest house available in the Lavender Beds on Balmung is Medium at about 15m. I haven't checked the other housing areas, but I imagine it's probably the same there. So, yeah, there are plots available, but they're a bit pricey if you want a house to yourself.Quote:
Originally Posted by JillyBean
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11-30-2014, 12:19 AMJillyBeanLavender Beds is always going to go first. I did a check and the only area there are (quite a few) smalls left, are in The Goblet. But tbf it's been a while since the new housing was added. The fact you can still get a small out there I do think says a lot, actually.Quote:
Originally Posted by Viridiana
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11-30-2014, 12:27 AMViridianaJust checked the other places. Cheapest plot is a Medium Goblet house for 14,880,000 gil.Quote:
Originally Posted by JillyBean
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11-30-2014, 02:06 AMAlukahBalmung and (i believe) Excalibur sold out all small lands like a day after the patch, in all housing areas.Quote:
Originally Posted by JillyBean
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11-30-2014, 02:34 AMLyrinn
They would need to find a way to add housing only to specific servers if that is the case. Ultros, for example, has tons of houses still available and adding more would be a waste of resources.
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11-30-2014, 02:37 AMAlukahThat has always been the most logical solution, but logic is too much for our devs, now you have dead servers like Zalera and such getting the same hardware upgrades when they don't even have housing issues.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lyrinn
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11-30-2014, 02:42 AMAshkendorYep, just checked myself. There are 15 Smalls available in the Goblet, 1 in Mist, and 0 in Lavender Beds.Quote:
Originally Posted by JillyBean
More than I expected to be available, actually.
I have no idea why they aren't able (or willing) to simply add housing to specific servers. -
11-30-2014, 03:33 AMGilthas
So many whining about the developers stem from people with poor reading comprehension.
Still, I laughed when they said that they think they have met house plot demand. -
11-30-2014, 03:35 AMFirepower
Considering that the new subdivisions have been available for some time now and anybody that wants a house (including frugal people who have waited for the houses to drop to minimum price) can still buy one because there is still open plots in the goblet on most servers that to me would say that they have reached saturation of housing. My impression is that as people who stick with the game get richer through just generally playing they might want to move into one of the empty Mediums, thus relinquishing the small for another person.
Unless the game gets more popular I can't imagine that they will require more housing, I would like to say that as suggested above they offer extra housing to more populated servers and take it away from the dead ones but I don't know how tricky that is programming/server side for them.
Personally I would like them to finally add the chance for us to sell plots of land (with houses intact to some degree) so that allows people and free companies that have purchased smaller plots to finally move into a larger property that they can afford without throwing away a bunch of hard work and gil that they invested on their first property. -
11-30-2014, 05:21 AMLeCard
Those servers that have sold all small housing plots can come steal houses from Mateus......the goblet doesn't have a single ward full and last i checked not even 1 plot in the new sub divisions had sold.
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11-30-2014, 05:38 AMEdeline
To those saying there are free spots on certain worlds: Ye! just abandon your character on your current server where you can't buy a house so you can get one! why care about the rest of the worlds when a few have open spots right?
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11-30-2014, 06:03 AMAshkendorI haven't seen a single solitary post where people were saying anything of the sort.Quote:
Originally Posted by Edeline
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11-30-2014, 07:00 AMEdelineWhy would you post <inser your server name here> has free plots on a thread about an issue that is well known around all worlds then. What's the purpose of it. Saying there are free plots on certain servers doesn't solve the issue where people don't have plots available on most of their servers.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ashkendor
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11-30-2014, 07:23 AMAshkendorFor the sake of comparison. It demonstrates that the problem isn't exactly widespread. It's only a few servers that have a severe dearth of housing plots available. Nobody is asking any of you to move to other servers.Quote:
Originally Posted by Edeline
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11-30-2014, 07:29 AMEdelineYeah because posting that your specific server has free plots will magically make people from others servers, who don't, get free plots! :D Still has no purpose posting a couple of servers have free plots. The fact that some servers have free plots (coincidence that they're in the worst designed area, the goblet) doesn't mean full servers don't deserve the attention to get more. Making your posts, again, pointless.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ashkendor
I'm sorry if I sound mean or offensive, but posts like that are the ones showing that everything's fine and no new plots are needed (when they are) if they're truly monitoring feedback. -
11-30-2014, 07:59 AMAshkendorNow you're just being patronizing. Did I ever say that it would give those servers free plots? Did I ever say that I was against the full servers getting additional plots? Did any of us? No, no, and no. You said in a previous post that this is a problem that's "well known across all worlds" but that simply isn't the case. It's only a very few servers that are completely out of housing. Should they get more? Sure, why not? I don't have a problem with it, and I'm reasonably sure none of the other people on servers that still have housing available would have a problem with it either. Will SE add more housing to just certain servers? I don't know. None of us do. One would hope that they would find a way to do this at some point or another. I'd support it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Edeline
I don't see how providing more information about the issue is pointless. Attacking other posters, however, is.
You sound like you're basically spoiling for a fight. Nobody is saying that everything is fine, and anyone that thinks that is failing to see the big picture. Just because someone says there's housing available on one server doesn't mean there isn't a problem on other servers. There's no mutual exclusion there. My post said there's a total of 16 Small plots available on my entire server. That could be bought up relatively quickly (especially now that prices are down in the 2-3 million range, which is easy to get), leaving us in the same boat as a few others.Quote:
Originally Posted by Edeline
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11-30-2014, 08:44 AMIlisidiIt doesn't tell me that there's a saturation of housing, it tells me that the Goblet is an undesirable living space and Lavender a highly desirable one.Quote:
Originally Posted by Firepower
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11-30-2014, 09:04 AMpolyphonicaI think the problem is that, as usual, the translations leave room for misinterpretation. It's more that until this point they were still figuring out how to deal with the supply problem (i.e. how hard they could push the servers, etc.), but they think they've got that figured out now, so while they'll continue to add housing capacity going forward, they should also be able to re-evaluate the capabilities/utility of each house at some point soon (but after the team is done working on their current tasks).Quote:
Originally Posted by Gilthas
There wasn't an intention to say that they've figured out the supply issue (as if the supply problem were solved, as they do say they'll keep adding capacity), but rather that they've figured out how they're going to deal with it going forward. (Although, as was pointed out, on many servers you might say the supply problem is solved. Right now the supply problem is specific to the super-popular servers given that they all have the same quantity.)
(It's around 1:15:05 in the archived Twitch stream if people want to check out his answer in Japanese.)