BRD i110 DPS output

Quick question. I'm curious as to what a non "BiS" 110 BRDs dps number should be looking like after a 4 minuet parse. Had a friend kind enough to check mine on a dummy, shiva, and a couple other random things and would just like some real life numbers to hopefully get a feel of how much i need to improve to be an asset.

Changing my main from War to BRD due to static mumbojumbo.

330 to 350 mayb? Was hitting that on t8 with a full sold brd pre 2.4. not sure about echo now

Depends quite a bit on the weapon. i110 weap or i115? Some parses are also misleading because people will use a lvl50 dummy and Misery's End. Others have also used party buffs, food, pots, and DRG's Disembowel to pad numbers.

So with cheesed numbers and i115 weap... 470+. More realistic numbers with no party buffs, pots, dismebowel, or Misery's End. Probably more like 390 to 410. The range on BRD can be fairly broad because of RNG procs.

With an i110 weap I would have to do some testing. It's been a while. But I would guess about ~15 - 20 DPS lower than i115. Roughly.

Apologies if my numbers are off. Currently at work and unable to test immediately. My goldfish memory can't remember i110 and i115 numbers with absolute certainly since I've recently obtained better bow.

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Originally Posted by ExiaQuanta

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Ok thats not to far off. Dummy i was cappin out at 373 is what i think he said it was, in fights i was abit lower 320-330ish but ima go ahead and chalk that up to lack of practice and skill + situational thingys.

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Originally Posted by RinchanNau

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Ya i had to end up going to summerford because the ones in the homes just die wayyyy to fast, which tempted me so much to use it.
Welp if your right about 20 dps lower for 110 (its shivas bow so dont even get the rosen crit.) then i guess im on schedule.

Also with the new Ironworks gear numbers will now vary as the Soldiery gear for the most part is not all too great

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Ya the only Sol pieces i can honestly say i like are the chest, belt, and i guess a couple accs.

K. did a little test with my current gear for you. 4 min runs as you mentioned in the first post. No party, food, pots, Misery's End, DRG, etc. ~440 w/ i130 bow (i115). ~400 w/ i110 Shiva bow (i112). Not quite i110 but close enough. Should note I have a good bit of crafted gear along with the slightly higher ilvl. so maybe subtract 10 - 20 DPS, and it should be close enough.

I think my original estimate of around 370-390 @ i110 seems reasonable. Good on you since you mentioned you are hitting that range. With some practice I'm sure you'll be able to execute just as well in combat.

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Originally Posted by PenelopeWinn

Quick question. I'm curious as to what a non "BiS" 110 BRDs dps number should be looking like after a 4 minuet parse. Had a friend kind enough to check mine on a dummy, shiva, and a couple other random things and would just like some real life numbers to hopefully get a feel of how much i need to improve to be an asset.

Changing my main from War to BRD due to static mumbojumbo.

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My bard is currently i110. On my last ST run I parsed 397 for the entire raid, and 403 during Amon which was about a 4 min fight. I wasn't trying for my best possible parse but it should give you something to work with.

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Originally Posted by RinchanNau

More realistic numbers with no party buffs, pots, dismebowel, or Misery's End.

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Why are we ignoring Bard's finisher when performing parses?

Not that I am in any way endorsing parses, because I am not. And I am actually shocked that you people are openly talking about using parsers on the official site when it is known that Square-Enix is against their use. But I am curious as to the answer of my question.

Oh it is in the tos but i am sure SE know that people use them, lol
I for one do not as am on PS4 and sort of say meh, no biggie

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Originally Posted by Tharian

Why are we ignoring Bard's finisher when performing parses?

Not that I am in any way endorsing parses, because I am not. And I am actually shocked that you people are openly talking about using parsers on the official site when it is known that Square-Enix is against their use. But I am curious as to the answer of my question.

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You can pad your numbers by a good 5% or more if you use Misery's End on a lvl50 dummy every time it's available.

The topic creator had a question, and I attempted to provide a useful response. That is all.

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Originally Posted by Tharian

Why are we ignoring Bard's finisher when performing parses?

Not that I am in any way endorsing parses, because I am not. And I am actually shocked that you people are openly talking about using parsers on the official site when it is known that Square-Enix is against their use. But I am curious as to the answer of my question.

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Because it can only be used for the last 20% of an encounter. Using it in a dummy parse would make it very inaccurate to determine what you would be getting in an encounter because you are practically forgetting 80% of a fight.

except that the training dummies aren't meant to replicate boss mobs. they are meant to replicate standard cannon fodder mobs.

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Originally Posted by Tharian

except that the training dummies aren't meant to replicate boss mobs. they are meant to replicate standard cannon fodder mobs.

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Because thats what people need to test on right? Trash mobs. lol.

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Because thats what people need to test on right? Trash mobs. lol.

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I don't know what Square-Enix was thinking but they definitely designed the Training Dummies to replicate Trash Mobs. Another game I used to play but won't name did it so much better with their training dummies. They had ones for Trash Mobs on the starter worlds, then they had ones that replicated their version of Dungeon Bosses, as well as another set that replicated their version of Crystal and Syrcus Tower Bosses, and yet another that replicated their version of Binding Coil Bosses. It was all really well done. They even had a set that was specifically designed to replicate other players for the purposes of testing for PvP. Of course this game actually ALLOWED the use of Parsers.

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Saying definitely is a huge stretch... and even then trash mobs don't die that fast to ensure a 100% uptime on misery's end, nor is trash DPS ever relevant because it's mostly AoEing or multi dotting

Yh I hate miseries end on dummy. + good tip in this thread: Always beware of padded bard parses.

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Originally Posted by RinchanNau

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And a useful response it was. Thank you kindly.

So so far the rotation that ive put together to work the best for me has been

QS > RS > SS (BFB, BL) > WB (HE, IR) > VB (barrage) > and start working on my OCDs and hs bl blahblah whatever > refresh dots with 4 seconds of IR > blah blah blah

Could someone give me some input on this? I do lose some fractions of seconds in the animation lock and im curious as to if this is acceptable enough weaving. and is there a better order for them obviously popping them all would be bad but i also feel like weaving only one into an ocd at the start is less efficient. idk any helps nice xD

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Originally Posted by Tharian

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My thing about parses are that if someones using it as an o 500 dps or gtfo thing then thats bad.
But they help players see where their at and what they can improve on, SE should really let them be used.