what is the best retainer ilvl

to try and get the new dyes from quick ventures?

Afaik, if you can send them to XIV and XV 18 hour ventures (have the iLvl for them) you should be able to get the dyes from quick ventures. The iLvl requirement for XV 18h ventures is i90 if I remember correctly (can't log into the game now to check).

I was getting dyes (2 at a time) from Quick Ventures since i80, if that helps any.

IIRC it has been "player-confirmed" that i80 is the thresh hold to get dyes.

You need to be at least i80 to get them. But being over i90 helps.

It's whatever is required for the XIV 18-hour venture; i80 or some gathering over 300 (can't remember that number)

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Originally Posted by PArcher

It's whatever is required for the XIV 18-hour venture; i80 or some gathering over 300 (can't remember that number)

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383 Gathering :)

Yes it seems to be i80 for DoW/DoM. On gathering I was getting them with only enough gathering for the level 50 XI venture.

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Originally Posted by Archadius

383 Gathering :)

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Like I said my gathering was way lower than that when I first started getting them. 280 maybe?

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Originally Posted by Woggers

Like I said my gathering was way lower than that when I first started getting them. 280 maybe?

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Oh this was in regards to the XIV 18hr venture, which requires 383. I can't recall what the XI one is, but you're probably right, around 280ish.

Mine is i90 and I have spent easily over 250 ventures (maybe more).

I have received 4 pure white and 4 metallic silver. Never have received a single jet black, and that is the one I'm trying to get.

My ACN is 100 and I get TONS of fish...

Edit: On another note I've gotten 12 gold, 8 silver, 8 Snow White and 16 jet black.

WOW, 16 jet black? See, now that frustrates me greatly, as I haven't received one single black. I get useless fish and housing items all the time.

Well I can say that before 2.4 i80+ would give me the messege that they had a chance to obtain rare items. I stopped getting that after 2.4 though, because my retainers were just barely over i80 at the time. Now I have one a little bit above i90 and I receive the messege.

I usually get dyes from quick ventures. I have yet to get any dyes, or anything unique from the 18 hour i90 ventures.

Quick Ventures is where I get my rare stuff, but it is a gamble, as they do like to bring back worthless sea critters fairly often as well.

Side note: Most of the dyes I gained were before 2.4. Since 2.4 I've only gotten dyes once.

Current amount: Gold 4 (sent via mail), Pure White 8, Jet Black 4, Silver 7 (used 1).

The one cool thing I did get (I think it was from the full length ventures, but can't remember) is the retainer Fantasia potion.

However, I'm getting fairly impatient to get a black dye after all this time.

If you just want dyes, i80 is fine.

I have my CONJ retainer at i80 and she's brought back around 30 dyes in total.
I have my BLM retainer at i107 and she's brought back 2 dyes. She sucks.

Your experience may vary :D

I think you need the message "your retainers gear is good enough to get rare items" or something like that.

Before 2.4 it was i80 that displayed that message. Now it's i90+ that displays it.

i80 is sufficient to bring back dyes. I've gotten 8 Pure White, 8 Jet Black, and 4 Metallic Silver. However, patch 2.4 appear to have upped the requirements for bringing back rare items to i90+ as others have stated. Although, mine did bring back a Carbuncle Lamp and some other nice 3-star housing items.

Maybe it's time I start farming ST for all of the caster 100 pieces. While I appreciate the white and silver I've received, I'm really tired of not being able to get a single black.

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Originally Posted by NorthernLadMSP

Maybe it's time I start farming ST for all of the caster 100 pieces. While I appreciate the white and silver I've received, I'm really tired of not being able to get a single black.

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If you've gotten some dyes after 2.4 then there's really nothing you need to change. It's pretty random what they bring back, so even if you were to up your retainer to ilvl 130 it wouldn't increase you chances of getting black dyes over any other dyes.

For me I've gotten all of the dyes except gold dye from quick ventures. Not that I'm complaining, since I'm not a big fan of the gold dye.

So, people are saying that i80 is still enough to get the dyes despite the rare items message not appearing until i90. Does anyone know if having your retainer at i90+ lessens your chance to get the dyes? I obtained a bunch before the patch, and very few after the patch. One retainer was i80 before the patch, and is now i93. She brought back ~16 dyes before the patch and 2 since. I've done about the same number of ventures before and after.

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Originally Posted by Nyalia

Does anyone know if having your retainer at i90+ lessens your chance to get the dyes?

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Just as a disclaimer, I have no idea. What I say is speculation :)


However your theory does have merit, because essentially you would be knocking out the i90+ items out of your possible pool of items received. They may just fill those extra slots with more chances at fish/furniture though.

While I can understand people wanting specific dyes, I'm not sure it's worth decreasing your retainer ilvl just to try it. My retainer is i106 and since 2.4 I have gotten a waterproof cotton, 2 allagan wootz ore, 1 allagan leather and multiple stacks of dyes of all colors.

My suggestion would be to raise your retainer ilvl, not lower it. It makes more sense to me that the amount of times you will get crap will decrease as your retainer ilvl grows.

Yeah, that's why I was wondering if I should farm ST to get my retainer to i100, instead of the i90 he is sitting at now.

I might do it anyway, there's no loot restrictions anymore, so I'll just go BLM and take all the caster loot I can get.

I really wish they would get rid of the fish and housing items. That is pretty much all I get.

My retainer saw how much I didn't like getting fish, then upped her game up a bit and just brought me lures....then she brings me a kingly whisker, a seating module, and a Gyshal Ring. I don't understand.

Tonight's venture is the first i80+(not90 though) so I'll see what I get and report back.

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Originally Posted by Nyalia

So, people are saying that i80 is still enough to get the dyes despite the rare items message not appearing until i90. Does anyone know if having your retainer at i90+ lessens your chance to get the dyes? I obtained a bunch before the patch, and very few after the patch. One retainer was i80 before the patch, and is now i93. She brought back ~16 dyes before the patch and 2 since. I've done about the same number of ventures before and after.

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As I think I mentioned in my first post, I had gotten a ton of dyes before 2.4 with my retainers being a bit higher than i80, yet under i90.

After 2.4, from my personal experience of sending my 2 retainers that I had above i80 out on Quick Ventures (how I got all my dyes) I got nothing, ever. I also did not receive the message about rare items.

The one retainer I have now above i90 receives the rare item message, and I've received dyes twice now from sending them out on Quick Ventures (actually had received new dyes shortly after I made my previous post, so now I've gotten dyes twice).

Still though, the % chance does seem to be a bit lower than before 2.4, imo. I send my retainer out for Quick Ventures every hour while I am playing.

It could also be that before 2.4 I was able to send 2 retainers out and basically increased my chances of obtaining dyes.. and I did get quite a few.

Still working on getting my second retainer i90+ but they are a Lancer.. and I have had 0 luck seeing or getting Lnc/Drg drops from ST to increase their ilevel. Yet Nin/Mnk gear drops out the wazzoo.

I have 4 retainers in total, but only one i90+ atm, one is still i80+, one I made the mistake of making a Miner and I am not going to be dolling out gil to pimp out my retainer's gear.. no ty. The fourth is still leveling up to level 50, but I should be able to have them be somewhere around i80 or higher once they do hit 50.

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Originally Posted by Synestr

My retainer saw how much I didn't like getting fish, then upped her game up a bit and just brought me lures....then she brings me a kingly whisker, a seating module, and a Gyshal Ring. I don't understand.

Tonight's venture is the first i80+(not90 though) so I'll see what I get and report back.

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K so that venture and all after have been underwhelming. HQ sea cucumber, Ahriman Chronometer...doors etc. Pushing to get up to i90 now. I have also noticed no rare item message @ i84.

i now have ilvl88 on my retainer ive gotten loads of useless fish and lots of housing items and armor i cant use or sell to make profit from other then that ive got back from my retainer 4 jet black, 2 pure white and 2 Silver dyes

I think i90 gets them into coil and they roll better than I would. I see firends saythey get allagan mats more than anything. Although she did bring me that module at i38 and a mogblade at i42 and the whisker shortly after.

RNGeesus!