First boss in Satasha HM

So I ran Satasha HM the other day with some FC mates and we came across an oddity. We were burning the first boss down without any problem when somewhere around 20% HP he started using some one hit kill attack. The attack didn't have a name and I can't find anything on guide sites mentioning it, has anyone ever seen this? Luckily it only affected one player at a time so after a few attempts we demolished it with sheer DPS but it was still pretty weird.

The tail swipe? If somebody has the slime debuff when it hits them then it will one shot them. The tail swipe tales like 99% HP and the Slime debuff does a DoT which will kill them. Just make sure people don't have the slime on them or stun Tail Swipe. Around that 20% it starts dumping slime on the whole party so if people get stacked with it that's when the problem starts.

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Originally Posted by MXMoondoggie

The tail swipe? If somebody has the slime debuff when it hits them then it will one shot them. The tail swipe tales like 99% HP and the Slime debuff does a DoT which will kill them. Just make sure people don't have the slime on them or stun Tail Swipe. Around that 20% it starts dumping slime on the whole party so if people get stacked with it that's when the problem starts.

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Nope, not the tail swipe, and no one had slime on them. It was like some tail thrust, it looked like his basic attack but his tail glowed yellow and purple and it was an instakill on whoever it hit.

When his hp is lower he hits like a truck due to an attack buff and maybe gets a new attack that hits really hard? Could it be possible your tank either lost hate or just got murdered by it which let the boss go around 1-shotting people with high damage attacks?

Hmm, never seen this one. Anyone got pics or a battle log description?

Its called Tail Screw and it targets a random player (other than the tank I believe). Shortly before the attack he will do a slime attack which inflicts a debuff. If this debuff is not Esuna'd or Leeched, the Tail Screw will one shot that member. It is unavoidable damage but without the debuff, it will leave the member with like 1% health. So just as soon as you see the slimes go out, dispel all the debuffs and you are good to go.

When the tank gets "Prey"'d, that's your cue that Tail Screw is a'comin'. The Prey can be transferred to another party member so the tank won't get stunned. What I do as PLD, is try to transfer Prey to a melee nearby, let them get stunned, then Shield Bash Tail Screw. Sometimes Prey doesn't like to transfer so it's by no means 100% efficient.

In addition to tail screw, the first boss does have a tail impaling attacking that does about 1.2-2k damage to tanks.
It can hit for harder once the boss is enhanced but a tank should not be even close to be 1 shotted, though it may one-shot non-tanks.

The boss you should be worried about is Madison. I've done that dungeon tens of times and I STILL don't understand the mechanics. I just let the DPS do their thing while I grab adds lol. I hope Madison chokes on his tenticles.

how do you transfer the tank stun?

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Originally Posted by Blindheart

how do you transfer the tank stun?

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Get another player to break the laser that's between the tank and the boss. It's like Brayflox HM at the first boss with the snipers. It doesn't always work though, transferring the stun to a lalafell is a bazillion times harder than transferring it to a Roe. It also seems like (to me at least) that the stun cast time getting quicker as the fight goes on. The 3rd or 4th stun is near instant.

I believe it's actually by running through the PLAYER rather than the tether. Of note, the gobbue in Lost City has the same mechanic.

His tail attack is easy to avoid but barely any group I play with does it. When the Tank is not stunned from the Wave that appears later in the fight, he can easily stun the attack. Doesn't matter if the Tank is a WAR as there is enough time for the cooldown. If the Tank is stunned, a DPS can stun it during the Wave phase. Most DD's have an option to and it drives me nuts when I see how they all bring it down to the Healer's Problem and even yelling at him when he doesn't Esuna the debuff quickly enough. This is one of these fights that's not hard but could be much more comfortable for the entire Party if more Players would use their stun skill. But seems not to be an option, might lose 5 DPS lol.

The stun tether can be picked up by standing directly on top of the targeted person. You can also block the stun effect by nulling the incoming damage. (Adlo, manawall, etc.)

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Originally Posted by Lucke

The boss you should be worried about is Madison. I've done that dungeon tens of times and I STILL don't understand the mechanics. I just let the DPS do their thing while I grab adds lol. I hope Madison chokes on his tenticles.

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Madison will lunge at players seemingly randomly (though I'm pretty sure it's HP % based when each phase of his lunging starts). After he's lunged he'll push them away, target a random player, start firing at the player, and gain buffs for each shot he fires. To stop him from firing, much like the Qarn HM 2nd boss or Moggle Mog EX BLM, you simply have to do enough damage to him for him to "miss". Sometimes he does this when adds are out. When he's gotten fed up with missing, he'll leave, summon a bunch of adds, and once those are all dead the fight is over (typically mage LB can be used here, if not then manually kill your own grabbies and then everything else).

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Originally Posted by Estellios

When his hp is lower he hits like a truck due to an attack buff and maybe gets a new attack that hits really hard? Could it be possible your tank either lost hate or just got murdered by it which let the boss go around 1-shotting people with high damage attacks?

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I just remembered there was no cast bar, this was a while ago though.

You're only going to be able to stun him twice before he's "fully resistant", so you should work out who is going to stun before going in so that two people don't stun once and use it up. With decent DPS, he'll get 3 tailspins, so I suggest letting the first tailspin go. The healer will have no problem using esuna/leeches to remove the status effect before hand. The TS will take you to 1% health regardless of how much you have, so making sure people are 100% healed won't matter. Remove the slime, let tailspin happen, heal that player and if you can, do the same for the second one. That way, you're guaranteed, even with OK DPS to stun the next two before you take him down. Let's face it, if you have two bards, limit break isn't going to help finish him off in time.

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Originally Posted by Jamillion

I just remembered there was no cast bar, this was a while ago though.

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I did this fight the first couple days. The cast bar for tailspin was there right away. In order to prevent from multiple stacks of the slime effect, handing off the tank stun is only useful if you have no DPS stun (e.g. two bards).

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Originally Posted by Estellios

When his hp is lower he hits like a truck due to an attack buff and maybe gets a new attack that hits really hard? Could it be possible your tank either lost hate or just got murdered by it which let the boss go around 1-shotting people with high damage attacks?

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Actually, he just hits more people with slime. If they are close together, you can get more stacks of slime, so stay about 90 degrees from each other on the boss and you'll be OK. The effect of tailspin is the same each time, but the more that have to be removed means that the healer has only so much time to remove each effect and each stack, meaning you may lose people with multiple stacks. Tailspin takes you to 1% health and slime will finish the job.