Trollmageddon 2011?? Only active players allowed to post after Aug 17!

Could this be the beginning of the end for the epidemic of people who don't actually play the game trolling everyone's threads? How many frequent posters is this going to impact?

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After the maintenance, following requirements must be fulfilled to log in to the forums.

• Possess Square Enix account with an active service account on FINAL FANTASY XIV
• Have logged in to FINAL FANTASY XIV in the last 30 days (additional requirement)

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http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/20360

sounds good to me, and im also shocked, I thought it was going to be like google with never ending amount of years of beta lol

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Originally Posted by Raikki

Could this be the beginning of the end for the epidemic of people who don't actually play the game trolling everyone's threads? How many frequent posters is this going to impact?



http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/20360

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I doubt this will stop that many trolls. People said the same thing when they added character accounts to the forums. That didn't stop giftforce/gifthorse from annoying us, until they banned him.

Curious to see the new final forum form.

..with animated garlean gifs floating around the pages XD

Would be nice if the "full version" could use Lodestone profile pictures for avatars instead of the generic CG ones.

Won't stop anyone, they can just log in once a month so they can troll harder. Until we get charged, this means nothing.

I still play the game every day, so no. You're not getting rid of me.

As long as the game is still subscription free, how does this make any difference?

There are still hundreds of thousands of sales that hate the game and while they don't play anymore, it only takes but a moment to log in and get access to the forums. And its pretty dern clear that the trolls and haters will go to great lengths to spread their disgust.

Until XIV goes P2P, then this won't really solve anything for long. At least SE are trying to do something better.

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Originally Posted by Naqaj

As long as the game is still subscription free, how does this make any difference?

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The hope is that the extra effort required to keep an active forum account will deter trolls from posting on the forum.

I don't think this will work.

Anyone else think this doesn't have anything to do with trolls?

The most cynic players play the most. They are unable to act rationally, their hatred so deep yet they can't quit either. SOmehow, they've become addicted of this crappy game in it's crappy state. That takes some skill.

I on the other hand, will be screwed! No access to PC until September. Baw.

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Originally Posted by Betelgeuzah

I on the other hand, will be screwed! No access to PC until September. Baw.

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Consider it a vacation. Vacations are fun!

This forum doesn't have very many trolls, despite what people say.

It has a lot of complainers for sure, but not many trolls.

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Originally Posted by SuzakuCMX

This forum doesn't have very many trolls, despite what people say.

It has a lot of complainers for sure, but not many trolls.

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What do you mean? Don't you know that anyone who disagrees with an OP is automatically a troll?

Didn't you get that memo?

This change will definitely not wipe out the trolls, but it will decrease their number for sure. Lots of them don't even have characters, those trolls will be going bye-bye.

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Originally Posted by Eekiki

I still play the game every day, so no. You're not getting rid of me.

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How is it that you keep playing a game that you don't like? Just out of spite or what?

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Originally Posted by Eekiki

What do you mean? Don't you know that anyone who disagrees with an OP is automatically a troll?

Didn't you get that memo?

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We get memos?... Nobody's ever sent me a memo... :(

P.S. Yes, thank you everyone for pointing out that the dedicated troll can log in for a minute to retain their forum access to troll. Nothing's ever perfect but all of these things are a step in the right direction and you'll note are all very valid and effective means of preventing trolls from posting in a setting where this game is P2P, which, don't forget, it will be eventually. Just because certain things don't make sense or aren't fully effective right this minute doesn't mean they won't at some point in the not so distant future.

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Originally Posted by MrLion

How is it that you keep playing a game that you don't like? Just out of spite or what?

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Because I like the game. There's a lot that needs improvement, but I like the game.

"Being a troll" and "not liking the game" are not mutually exclusive.

Good move SE!
First, it's a Troll-Killer feature and this community need this pill! ( I can't stand trolls here .. )

Second, it's a indirect effort to put the trolls log into game, do something, and see what the game REALLY is. ( Not just trolls around without login to the game )

Third, SE will get some boost in active players because some troll might need to log so they can troll here again. ( But I wonder how many of them willing to do )

I bet the trolls here are lazy enough to load super-patch since last year.

/hug SE for this move!

The more interesting outcome would be: once this change happens, and all those evil non-playing trolls are gone, yet we still have countless people making threads about how bad the game is, what excuse will the fanboys pull out next?

Exciting change indeed.

good

I hate when people who didn't actually play the game but doing "white knighting" in every thread and calling people which actually play the game "whiners"

very nonsense! we complain because we actually play the game and know the problem


but... they better don't allow people who below rank 30 to post either

the thing alot of people seem to be overlooking is there's thousands of people that have quit the game until they feel it's gotten better. so we are saying those that took a break no longer have the chance to come in and take a look at the forums for a game they are waiting to improve nor have any way to express their opinion on what it would take for them to return.

to me this sounds counter productive since the ones that troll these forums just to troll will just sign in once for a minute a month and have free reign. the ones that have been waiting may just finally say forget it and move on. i am not saying they will, but sometimes when you are on the edge of moving on and forgetting a game it only takes that one more annoyance.

this looks like a step farther than even tanaka would have done. tanaka would listen to feedback and continue ignoring it himself and throw a fit about it, but seems yoshi just doesn't even want to listen to feedback.

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Originally Posted by darkstarpoet1

the thing alot of people seem to be overlooking is there's thousands of people that have quit the game until they feel it's gotten better. so we are saying those that took a break no longer have the chance to come in and take a look at the forums for a game they are waiting to improve

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You realise they only block posting, don't you? It's not like inactive players can't still look. And if they have an opinion they want to express that desperately, then it's probably worth reinstalling and briefly logging into the game to do so.

Anyway, above's Tanaka-bashing aside, I rather like this idea myself. Sure, the effectiveness is questionable, but it'll do some good, however small an amount.

Have you ever "liked" so hard you derped?

As for the "tens of thousands" -- SE doesn't care about who or who is not playing at the moment. As far as they're concerned, we're a bunch of beta testers. Who plays after the "re-launch" is who they're truly interested in.

Do not worry, logging in once a month is definitely worth the reward of trolling here.

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Originally Posted by Fensfield

You realise they only block posting, don't you? It's not like inactive players can't still look. And if they have an opinion they want to express that desperately, then it's probably worth reinstalling and briefly logging into the game to do so.

Anyway, above's Tanaka-bashing aside, I rather like this idea myself. Sure, the effectiveness is questionable, but it'll do some good, however small an amount.

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my post wasn't meant as a bash on tanaka at all. i wish he was still in charge myself as i liked the original direction better than the new one. i was just posting the way he is looked at on these forums. i was just stating with as bad as the white knights talked about him and not listening this is even a step beyond what he would do.

Good changes. Hopefully some trolls are too lazy to bother to log in every other month. lol

All the good trolls will stay! Rest of the nonsense will hopefully get filtered!

works for me !

trolls will not stop intill we have to pay imo. people will just log on and then log off lol

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Originally Posted by Evangela

very nonsense! we complain because we actually play the game and know the problem

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VERY!

/10char

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Originally Posted by darkstarpoet1

my post wasn't meant as a bash on tanaka at all. i wish he was still in charge myself as i liked the original direction better than the new one. i was just posting the way he is looked at on these forums. i was just stating with as bad as the white knights talked about him and not listening this is even a step beyond what he would do.

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Oh.. well, alright then. Sorry, it just seemed to read that way, to me, although I admit I also preferred his direction, however redundant that may be at this point.

Still, all the same, I don't think it's nearly as bad as you seem to fear. If someone feels their opinion is important enough to throw to the ravages of the forums, then I'm sure they'll also be willing to check in on the game while they're at it. It's hardly as if they're actively censoring negative opinions, after all.

To all the people saying that trolls won't have any problem logging in once every 30 days, don't forget when the game eventually goes P2P they won't be logging in anymore unless they're that bored and wanting to burn their $13 a month just to abuse forum posting.

Anyone think it should go another step further and not even allow forum view access unless we have a working account? I mean some people could take our posts and start up crap on other forums. I know of a site or two that started this before and started laughing.

Every little disincentive for trolling combines to create a much bigger disincentive. *like*

And the 30-allowance ensure people who lose access to the game for whatever reason can still get 30 days of community support.

will they start charging on August 17?

LOL

at first i thought it was stupid, but when it goes p2p i understand it.

Looks like SE got me a present for my birthday! :D (August 17th)

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Originally Posted by Shikaree

Anyone think it should go another step further and not even allow forum view access unless we have a working account? I mean some people could take our posts and start up crap on other forums. I know of a site or two that started this before and started laughing.

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No. This is the place we come to see what is going on in the game. Without access, we could lose a lot of currently lurking potential players.

This move is not meant for "Trolls" at all.

This is mainly a forum to give feedback to the Dev Team, meaning, to give feedback you at least need to try out the features first. Someone who does not log in and test the content is not fit to provide feedback at all.

Im sure the above is the true purpose for this, regardless of what "troll" would or would not do to post.