One-Time Freebie for leaving a duty.

Personally, I never have this problem, but it go me thinking. There are people that may have to leave a dungeon for something they thought would take them a while. Like pick up a family member from work or some kind of errand that needs to be taken care of. Maybe you get called right after to tell you never mind they got a ride. Now you have to wait 30 minutes before you can do another dungeon.

Now so people will say, they shouldn't have joined a duty if they weren't gonna be able to finish. Well you never know what's gonna come up at one time.

All I am getting at is, there should be a 1 time use per day. A "why you are leaving a dungeon to not get a penalty" option. Only 1 per actual day.

This way it can't be abused.

I would love if this happen. The situation you described happens to me all the time as the oldest brother in my household. Yeah, I know. I should know when something will happen and not queue if something might happen. But life is unpredictable as hell sometimes. So once a day, or heck once a week (or more balanced, every 72 hours) would be great.

Something like this seems reasonable. I do think the cooldown would need to be a bit longer than a day to prevent abuse.

I disagree.

30 min without a dungeon isnt a big deal since the situations where you have to leave and suffer the penalties (only to find out that you didnt have to) are usually not that common.

But giving players that leave cause of new players, not getting the dungeon they wanted or any other well known stupid reason a free pass to que again is bad.

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Originally Posted by Devils_Lawyer

30 min without a dungeon isnt a big deal since the situations where you have to leave and suffer the penalties (only to find out that you didnt have to) are usually not that common.

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30 min without a dungeon isn't a big deal for people that have all day to play, but what of that person that only has two hours to play? Those 30 min effectively ended their hopes of doing a dungeon that day, especially if they're dps.

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Originally Posted by Devils_Lawyer

But giving players that leave cause of new players, not getting the dungeon they wanted or any other well known stupid reason a free pass to que again is bad.

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While I agree with the sentiment, it might be possible to strike a balance.

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Originally Posted by Amenian

30 min without a dungeon isn't a big deal for people that have all day to play, but what of that person that only has two hours to play? Those 30 min effectively ended their hopes of doing a dungeon that day, especially if they're dps.

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Its unfortunate but lets be honest, how often does this happen and how many does it really affect?

MMO:s are time consuming games so yes if you dont have alot of time to play them then sometimes you will end up in a situation where time isnt on your side.

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Originally Posted by Devils_Lawyer

I disagree.
30 min without a dungeon isnt a big deal since the situations where you have to leave and suffer the penalties (only to find out that you didnt have to) are usually not that common.
But giving players that leave cause of new players, not getting the dungeon they wanted or any other well known stupid reason a free pass to que again is bad.

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^ This. The 30-minute penalty isn't just there as a "punishment" to make you feel bad after the fact, it is there as a deterrent to prevent trolls or lazy players from dumping any dungeon group they don't like. Even one freebie would basically be a "Free Leave Ticket" per day for all the snooty tanks and elitists who don't want to play with newbies. It would not be used sparingly in case of emergencies, it would be used every day.

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Originally Posted by Amenian

30 min without a dungeon isn't a big deal for people that have all day to play, but what of that person that only has two hours to play? Those 30 min effectively ended their hopes of doing a dungeon that day, especially if they're dps.

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Except, that 30 minutes begins as soon as you leave the dungeon and go attend to your task. So, that lockout time will already be partially burned away by the time you're back to the game. One of the examples OP gave was "pick up a family member from work." This will probably take more than half an hour anyway, so it won't even affect you. The people it will affect are those who only left the dungeon with the intent to requeue immediately.

This will be abused to no end.

People already leave if they get a dungeon they don't like during a roulette. Letting them do this once a day is just going to let them do that more. People that normally do not leave dungeons and don't have the problem you describe will now leave dungeons because "I hadn't used my get-out-of-fail-free allowance today".

The "People with limited time" will be even more affected by this. Sure they can now leave once, but so can everyone else. Finding themselves party-less after a long queue is going to become a much more common occurrence.

So no, this creates more problems than it solves. Besides, if you really have to go do something that needs you to drop your party, chances are it's going to take longer than the half-hour penalty.

Do not support. I think it's great as is and needs no changes.

Join a big and active FC so that you can make full pre-mades for dungeons. This way if you have to leave you wont suffer a 30min penalty. I'm not sure how hard or easy it is to find an active FC, but there sure are a lot of FCs out there.

I've never had to leave a dungeon before, My wife has a few times and she is always quick to say, I'm sorry something has come up and leaves.

She knows that doing so means a 30 min lock out and doesn't care if she comes back 5 mins later or 30+
There are enough things to do in FFXIV now that you should be able to keep yourself busy for 25 mins without having to use the duty finder.


On that note, she does mainly play Healer and Warrior. so ya no queue times 99% of the time.

The bigger problem right now is reducing queue times for DPS.

30 min lockout is not at all a big deal. This coming from a dps who has little time to play. There are plenty of other things to do during that time. This would cause much more harm then good. I would much rather be locked out for 30 mins, then join every instance hoping the tank/healer doesn't decide that this isn't the roulette they like.

I'm going to be really honest with you - I really, really do not want to go back to any system that would enable people to jump out of duties.

I dunno if you were around in early patches, but there was a time where getting a tank for a low-level roulette was near impossible. Tanks were always in demand, tanks always had near instant queues - and the fact was, if they had fast computers and could load in to whatever dungeon, skip cutscene, and jump out without the penalty (because it didn't apply until everyone loaded in)... they would jump out and fish roulettes for 'ideal' runs. I tanked Haukke probably half a dozen times as a lancer because it was the only way it ever got done.

I get that you're trying to help people with unfortunate situations, but this would legitimately worsen the experience of far, far more players than it would ever assist. Consider this system in the current environment, for a new player who ended up with the misfortune of trying to be a DPS. They're trying to get into Stone Vigil for story progression. They wait three hours because that's how horrific DPS queues are. And then the tank leaves five seconds in because Stone Vigil takes forever, because he has the freebie and it's worth it to try for a 'quicker' roulette.

I'd be fine with this if it were usable once per week.

Those situations are pretty rare, far too rare for a once-per-day use to be justified. Put it on a weekly use and it'd be perfect. Of course, I'm sure some people will have it come up more than once a week every now and again, but that's just something they'd have to deal with.

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Originally Posted by Jinrya-Geki

Only 1 per actual game day.

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Am I the only one that saw this? Game day would be a horrible idea, but I doubt SE'd even do a physical day (JP day for JP servers, NA day for NA/EU servers), maybe a weekly one...

This is one of those ideas that sounds good on paper, but you best believe duty leaving would increase by a bajillion percent, and it would be far more annoying than the much rarer occasion that someone has to deal with a 30 minute penalty.

I would be okay with once per WEEK, resetting on Tuesdays like everything else.

However, no way to once per day. What other people have described (picking and choosing dungeons, dropping if they see a new member, etc) will go back to happening all the time like it used to.

With the 3 strikes your out til next day DF ques, I don't see a problem removing the 30 minute timer altogether. It just means aniseed will get locked out faster.

I meant any user, not aniseed. Stupid auto correct.

If they implement this I will troll daily and leave at least 6 parties without a tank in AV. How did you enjoy that 45 minute queue there dps? Guess what, you get to do it again.

If its a real emergency, high likely you won't be back in 5-10 minutes, So in the end you'll wait ? 5mins maybe? I mean, if people say "Crap give me 5mins please" i never see anyone complain, This will just be an easy escape for "elitist" who think everyone should be perfect.

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Originally Posted by StouterTaru

If they implement this I will troll daily and leave at least 6 parties without a tank in AV. How did you enjoy that 45 minute queue there dps? Guess what, you get to do it again.

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Oh my, aren't you such a rebel?

I once had a situation come up where I had to go afk for I'm not sure how long. During the first Brayflox HM boss, tornado sirens went off. I had to tell my party the sirens were going off so I'm running afk after the boss, and to kick if needed. They did. An understanding party will votekick you by your request if it's a legit emergency.

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Originally Posted by Jinrya-Geki

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All I am getting at is, there should be a 1 time use per day. A "why you are leaving a dungeon to not get a penalty" option. Only 1 per actual game day.

This way it can't be abused.

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If you have a legit reason, you can ask to be vote kicked. You can even Alt F4 to added realism.
This allows you to avoid the penalty.

The again, its only 30 minutes... As long as you aren't the kind of person who leaves a duty at the drop of a hat.

Also, it can still be abused, in fact WILL be abused, people still leave duties regardless of the penalty, this just gives them a ticket to do it more frequently, if only once a day.

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Originally Posted by MaethusXion

Am I the only one that saw this? Game day would be a horrible idea, but I doubt SE'd even do a physical day (JP day for JP servers, NA day for NA/EU servers), maybe a weekly one...

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I meant real-time day. Sorry will fix.

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Originally Posted by Amenian

30 min without a dungeon isn't a big deal for people that have all day to play, but what of that person that only has two hours to play? Those 30 min effectively ended their hopes of doing a dungeon that day, especially if they're dps.

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What about the 3 people they leave behind in the dungeon though? Sure a DPS will be replaced quickly and you can at least make reasonable progress without them in the meantime but what if it's a tank or a healer? That makes things a bit more difficult, and those people may well have to wait longer than 30 minutes in the dungeon for a replacement depending on what time of the day it happens. I think a one time "free pass" to just leave would just get abused.

As long as SE doesn't introduce a penalty for disconnected players who do not reconnect, the free pass to leave is already there anyway. All it takes is having a player hit alt+F4 or disconnect the LAN connection. To the rest of the party it will merely appear as a DC, they'll vote kick the person out and wait for a new player. Whilst the person who wanted out can log back in roughly 5 minutes later and requeue up if desired.

So might as well introduce a free pass to leave. It's not like it'd make much of a difference.

Once per week or every three days is perfect otherwise no

Hey guys, but some of you tried do that?

You will found the new lockout method includes duty leave. If you have reasons to leave or withdraw, you have 2 free tickes for the day.