poetic items for summoners

I have no idea what to buy. they're all crammed with spell speed, and the few that aren't have more accuracy than I currently need. I got the ring since it was a direct upgrade from my garuda ring and... yeah. nothing else is an exciting upgrade.

Pants are nice.

Coat and Pants are probably the safest picks other than the ring. The Dreadwyrm Coat is Spell Speed and Accuracy which makes it garbage for Summoners. The Pants are a direct upgrade from the Evenstar ones.

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Originally Posted by Wolfenkritter

Coat and Pants are probably the safest picks other than the ring. The Dreadwyrm Coat is Spell Speed and Accuracy which makes it garbage for Summoners. The Pants are a direct upgrade from the Evenstar ones.

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This pretty much. The only Ironworks item that are in this BiS set are coat, pants, ring and gloves.

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Originally Posted by Dwill

This pretty much. The only Ironworks item that are in this BiS set are coat, pants, ring and gloves.

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I would argue the Iron works Belt is BIS as well.

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Originally Posted by Darkakri

I would argue the Iron works Belt is BIS as well.

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Overkill on accuracy when compared to pieces in other slots.

Its not a completely terrible option, considering its a direct upgrade from Evenstar as well. If the ACC cap for t13-24 is 530, you will probably need the belt anyway. If its lower than that though... then no you won't be needing it.

EDIT: Actually I'm dumb. You can hit acc without the belt anyway. The belt is only viable if you don't want the Dreadwyrm Bracelet.

Body, hands, legs, bracelet and ring and everything else Dreadwyrm you reach 534 accuracy. Belt is good if you lack accuracy at the moment but eventually u wanna change it for the Dreadwyrm. If you get tomestone weapon, you get another 51 accuracy.

I'm going to be trying out this gear set

http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/OE7J

About 95% Accuracy for the Pet, but a nice amount of crit, to hopefully make some use out of the Enhanced Pet + Absurd amount of SPD we got this time around.

It is fairly Dreadwyrm heavy, but there a couple good Ironwork pieces.

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Originally Posted by Judge_Xero

I'm going to be trying out this gear set

http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/OE7J

About 95% Accuracy for the Pet, but a nice amount of crit, to hopefully make some use out of the Enhanced Pet + Absurd amount of SPD we got this time around.

It is fairly Dreadwyrm heavy, but there a couple good Ironwork pieces.

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The accuracy is lower than 95%. Without food, you sit at 509 which puts you at around 93,5% accuracy. You're giving up 26 Accuracy and 23 Determination for 40 Critical Hit and 18 Spell Speed (Food not included). The trade off isn't worth it for T13 but would be pretty good for maximizing damage on T11 and under.

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Originally Posted by Dwill

The accuracy is lower than 95%. Without food, you sit at 509 which puts you at around 93,5% accuracy. You're giving up 26 Accuracy and 23 Determination for 40 Critical Hit and 18 Spell Speed (Food not included). The trade off isn't worth it for T13 but would be pretty good for maximizing damage on T11 and under.

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Oh right. It was about 4 points per 1%, so yeah around 93.5% for the Pet. That's fine by me tbh, Garuda is getting lazy anyways.

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Originally Posted by Sunako

Body, hands, legs, bracelet and ring and everything else Dreadwyrm you reach 534 accuracy.

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Is 534 confirmed pet acc cap? I had heard it was 535 but created my BiS to only hit 534 because the secondary stat increases outweighs garuda missing an auto attack or two. If it is 534 then that is good news for me.

More OT: As far as Ironworks gears to buy the body is the best upgrade right out of the gate imo. While it doesn't provide an acc boost for T11+ it will help a lot for T10 which my group is killing post soft enrage atm so the added dps is welcome from it. The pants is a pretty good second bet depending on where your group is as far as progression, the ACC will help with the next couple of turns and there is no point in saving up for a weapon if you're not close to downing T12. You may just have to play it by ear depending on the drops you are able to receive (if you're lucky you'll get dreadwyrm feet and neck early on) and really just weigh ACC caps for the next turn VS. damage output on the current turn. There is no point in going for higher ACC if you aren't meeting the DPS checks on the turn you're currently on.

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I would say the loss of DET from the evenstar chest(Crit /DET) -> ironworks chest (Crit/ SS) is a bigger DPS loss then if you just level up'd your pants first. More ACC is still important for anything post T10 and if you don't want a terrible build beyond that, those pants are crucial to getting asap.

Your best upgrades are direct ones.

Evenstar Pants-> Ironworks Pants
Evenstar / High Allagan Gloves -> Ironworks Gloves
Evenstar Belt -> Ironworks Belt (Potential BiS item depending on T13 ACC)

if you have access to all of the previous coil gear then you can make a solid build with the High Allagan Gloves already that can translate to something meeting Accuracy for up to T12 roughly.

Problems truly start when your sitting on Poetics past the Gloves and Pants because now you quite literally need drops from FCOB to not destroy your build and even beyond that, (while you'll do so eventually) you want to slow the whole process down to a degree so you don't lose too much damage in between turns trying to meet the accuracy.

I would also say upgrading to your chest right away for summoner is one of the upgrades you'd wanna wait out.

The chest is less than 1 int of an upgrade going from evenstar > ironworks. It should be your LAST upgrade

but so stylish :(

The pants were my first upgrade, however, I was not too pleased with giving up 7 determination to gain 15 accuracy. I feel we will just have to do the best we can with what we were given.