What is the Carpenters Guild Doing in my Waterfall?

Trying to figure out, if it's a reflection tied with the waterfall, meaning that no matter where it goes the Guild does too, or if there's some invisible Carpenter's Guild inside our private rooms.

Original Pic - http://i.imgur.com/ViRaAxT.png

http://i.imgur.com/ViRaAxT.png

Flipped and Labeled - http://i.imgur.com/6Ulk1h2.png

http://i.imgur.com/6Ulk1h2.png

Location Referenced - http://i.imgur.com/voGg4TA.png

http://i.imgur.com/voGg4TA.png

Carpenterguildception

I'm not sure what you mean =x

Not sure what you mean, but if you are referring to the glowing symbol in the waterfall, that's is the symbol for Llymlaen. The waterfall is called Llymlaen's Embrace, so....

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Originally Posted by Espritduo

Not sure what you mean, but if you are referring to the glowing symbol in the waterfall, that's is the symbol for Llymlaen. The waterfall is called Llymlaen's Embrace, so....

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Look aat the reflection in the waterwall, particularly to the right. You can see the reception desk, with the Carpenter's guild symbol to right

I flipped the image to make it more recognizable, since it's mirrored in the water. You can view the image at it's full resolution to see what I mean better

http://i.imgur.com/6Ulk1h2.png

http://i.imgur.com/6Ulk1h2.png

ahhh I see it now cool xP

took me a bit to see it too, roof gave it away. XD Nice catch! I never would've seen it!! :eek:

That is creepy! So its not photoshop?

Ok if it is indeed really like that, maybe it is an "Easter Egg" put in [or maybe just intentionally not fixed because it became an easter egg] by the devs just like the upside-down fish that is swimming in the fishtank that is behind the outdoors NPC counter at the fisherman's guild in FFXI's Windurst.

It is kinda odd that it reminded me of the fishing guild easter egg in xi..because it happens to be of a fishing guild. Of all the wacky conspiracies, this will have me wondering.


Question, what is the name of the water fall item? What is in the description? maybe the carpenter's guild is supposed to have crafted it?

LOL edit: I confused myself and thought you said fishing guild. So nevermind the fishing guild connection I just imagined. The upside-down fish in the tank is a real thing though or it was when I played XI.

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Question, what is the name of the water fall item? What is in the description? maybe the carpenter's guild is supposed to have crafted it?

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It's called Lymlaen's Embrace, it's made by Goldsmith.

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Originally Posted by Teppie

It's called Lymlaen's Embrace, it's made by Goldsmith.

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Hmm thank you, I will look that up and see if any lore is out there about its origin.

I looked it up on xiv db and the reflection is also in the one in the pics.

Llymlaen [The Navigator] is the guardian deity of Limsa, goddess of navigation and is one of the astrological signs in the game. Aligned with wind lol no clue why that thing is in there though.

I noticed that Oschon, is the patron deity of the miner's guild. If the carpenter's guild has a deity, I wonder if it is Lymlaen?? anyone know?

I believe that would be Byregot

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Originally Posted by MStowastiqVahlshdeh

If the carpenter's guild has a deity, I wonder if it is Lymlaen?? anyone know?

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While I cannot say with absolute certainty, I would assume the guild whose patron deity is Lymlaen would be the Fisherman's Guild.

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Originally Posted by Teppie

I believe that would be Byregot

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lol NOOOOOOOOOOOO I was so close, so close..
Ah well things like this make me nuts. This is why the Sightseeing log in the game is one of the most enjoyable things I like to do! I love trying to find hidden clues in the game and this reflection in the fountain is probably just a graphics bug. :D

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Originally Posted by HakuroDK

While I cannot say with absolute certainty, I would assume the guild whose patron deity is Lymlaen would be the Fisherman's Guild.

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Makes sense but I can't find any info on it's patron deity either.

I did find this though, "Woodworking techniques were, and continue to be, developed and refined by the shipbuilding endeavors of Limsa Lominsa, as well as the towering architectural pursuits of Ishgard."

Just checked the one in my FC's house and it's there, so looks like it's tied to the furnishing itself.

http://i.imgur.com/Dz6PrSP.jpg

That is so awesome :D

It's telling you that your destiny is to be a carpenter.

This is interesting.
As someone with a degree in game art and knowledge of the creation of art assets for games I can say that real time reflections are scarce in a game or are used sparingly because of the intensity they require on the system (they slow down framerate a lot)
And oftentimes in order to maintain quality without killing frame rate, an artist will take a screenshot of an in game area and use that as a transparent texture to imitate reflections. I'm assuming that since none could be taken of the inside of our houses due to being heavily customized, they reused that image as a reflection for when your in your house. If I had to guess I would say other reflections in our houses would be of the same image, though I can't check myself

It's an odd choice for any who figure it out but any interior building would have done the job.
That is an interesting find and one that I have not noticed.

Ps. I'm sure others have seen this art technique in other games but one example is the reflections of the building in watchdogs. It's just an image of a street but not a real reflection.

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Originally Posted by IveraIvalice

If I had to guess I would say other reflections in our houses would be of the same image, though I can't check myself

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Well, I can tell you from experience, if you have a reflective object, like astrolabe and look into it while inside a house, it's just a single floor, no door for the basement and no furniture, at least in a small house, haven't tried it in a bigger one

This is one of the coolest accidental surprises I've seen in game yet.

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Originally Posted by IveraIvalice

an artist will take a screenshot of an in game area and use that as a transparent texture to imitate reflections
Ps. I'm sure others have seen this art technique in other games but one example is the reflections of the building in watchdogs. It's just an image of a street but not a real reflection.

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yup lots of game use that system , i still remeber in SWTOR the republic floor had empire reflection on their main hub :P

http://img823.imageshack.us/img823/8...reflection.jpg

As someone said, the reflections are recycled assets likely done to save on resources. Payday 2 also does this for its surface reflections.

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Originally Posted by Violyre

It's telling you that your destiny is to be a carpenter.

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....destiny....10/char

Probably Square copied the environment map used to create those reflections.