Suggestion: Allow people to fertilize any plant at anyone's house and reward them

I don't understand why this is restricted in the first place.

"OMG! This evil person came along and made my crops grow faster!"

Yeah, right.

Make an achievement for it. Call it "Mass acts of fertility" I/II/III/IV and give titles like "Fertilizing fairy" up to "Ultimate Karmic Gardener" to people that fertilize/tend like 100000 plants not in their own gardens. Maybe give out a minion that is a bag of fertilizer with arms, Etc.

Also perhaps make a new fertilizer that can only be used on others gardens that speeds up growing by 2 hours instead of 1 with a shorter cooldown.

In my opinion there need to be more opportunities for altruistic behavior in the game and this seems to be a huge opportunity for it.

I second this. OMG, teaching people to be kind to others? UNHEARD of LOL but seriously I love the bag of fertilizer idea. like the broom.

no, stop screw up my plant ._.

I plant them with a 6 adjact and only fertilised 3 of of em so I can plant another 3 with same cross, mean I use lets say 6x mandrake and only 3 Almond, you shall not fertilised my plan & ruin my master plan

You will be unable to determine when your plants will be ready to harvest.
Sometimes you may also want to fertilize some crops only and don't touch others

Fertilizing someone else's plants is helping the same way that a 6 year old pouring something from a bottle into the washing machine is helping with laundry.

It could be a good idea, but as said by others, sometimes people need/like to controle which plant is fertilized in order to optimize the crossing (don't fertilize the hard to produce one and fertilize a lot the other to do multiple crossing with one set).
They could also messed up the "synchronisation" of harvesting. For example, only plot 1 is fertilize, then it could be harvested 1 day before the other, messing up future crossing.

A solution to that could be an option to open/close access to "public fertilizing" (same as opening visit to house/room)

OMG, such anger over getting public assistance.

So, let me get this straight, you would rather wait longer than have empty patches earlier?

Let's say you do it your way. Only fertilizing half the patches. So your garden is ready for half harvesting in 2 days and full harvesting in 4 days.

Now along comes a mob of helpful fertilizers and your garden is ready for half harvesting in 1 day and full harvesting in 2 days.

Explain to me how waiting an extra 2 days is a bad thing? Stop looking gift chocobos in the beak.

I see where you're coming from, but I think it's more for the fact that you have no control over which plants will get fertilized by a stranger who has no stakes in your garden. Someone could just come along and fertilize one, or half the patch. From previous posts, it sounds like they want to keep adjacent seeds in place as long as possible for cross-breeding, and cutting down the duration would ruin their system. (I'm not so knowledgable, so I hope I'm not messing up what they're saying.)

I can see your idea working if it was just left to tending someone else's garden. I know what you mean about doing something nice for your neighbors, though. I always wanted a drop box that as a neighbor I could leave food, or some kind of gift, without having to be friends with them first in order to send a message. I noticed that placards have a box on them, and I just wish I could place something in there.

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Originally Posted by Lenne

cutting down the duration would ruin their system.

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Yes, it would. Because the existing system runs on the idea that some plants take much longer than others. Perhaps it's time to fix that as well.

Or, simply make "karmic gardening" apply equally to all plants in a garden so it cannot be used as grief. And perhaps make it apply equally by percentage to all plants in the garden so it wouldn't mess up anyone's "special system". :P

There are a myriad of ways to make something like this work, and yet what we have here is focus being put on how it would screw up existing systems rather than talk of making a much better system.

If we're "fixing" the system why not take out any random chance, the need to tend/harvest, the need for soil and seeds, etc?

Karmic gardening doesn't help, since sometimes you want only half your seeds fertilized. It's my garden, I have it planned out, and I don't want people screwing with it.

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Originally Posted by StouterTaru

Karmic gardening doesn't help

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I think people are overplaying how much it would "hurt" too. It's easier to just poo-poo ideas than work together to improve the fun.

Not one person bothered to say "So long as it didn't mess up how I plant this might be a good idea" they simply went with "OMG! How dare you change how I garden!!"

I fertilize half my crop so I can constantly make seeds with the shorter duration plant leaving the longer plants unfertilized. It's how I got over 50 jute and glazenut seeds so fast.

Having someone else fert will ruin this cycle and I would have to start over

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Originally Posted by Invision

I fertilize half my crop so I can constantly make seeds with the shorter duration plant leaving the longer plants unfertilized. It's how I got over 50 jute and glazenut seeds so fast.

Having someone else fert will ruin this cycle and I would have to start over

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So, what can be done to help things along without disrupting that cycle? There has to be SOMETHING.

Everyone is just being a "Negative Nancy" instead of even thinking about positive options.

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Originally Posted by Lasivian

So, what can be done to help things along without disrupting that cycle? There has to be SOMETHING.

Everyone is just being a "Negative Nancy" instead of even thinking about positive options.

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I think it's a great idea as long as I can lock out randoms from ferting my own crops. I always water my neighbors plants and would fert them too had given the option. But I can see someone trolling and ferting a single plant more than the others just to mess up cycles

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Originally Posted by Invision

I think it's a great idea as long as I can lock out randoms from ferting my own crops.

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IE. "This is a great idea, but not in my backyard"

You realize this defeats the entire purpose of my idea.

Seems like a friendly gesture in thought but not application as it can alter the carefully planned cycles of the owner. Too bad there wasn't a different kind of fertilizer that would increase other bonuses like hq, yield, or cross breeding turn out. Then by all means have at it!

Anybody in the FC can fertilize an FC garden. I see no problem.

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Originally Posted by Lasivian

I think people are overplaying how much it would "hurt" too. It's easier to just poo-poo ideas than work together to improve the fun.

Not one person bothered to say "So long as it didn't mess up how I plant this might be a good idea" they simply went with "OMG! How dare you change how I garden!!"

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Nobody is getting angry, Mr. Over-reaction. Or are you going to get upset every time someone posts something besides "OMG this is a great idea you are a genius". It can be a good idea for some, but not for others. It is easy to understand. As long as it would have the ability to change permissions it would be fine.

Add an option to set permissions to let people fertilize or not.

Personal housing really needs a permissions list in general

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Originally Posted by FoxyAreku

Add an option to set permissions to let people fertilize or not.

Personal housing really needs a permissions list in general

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yeah, also permission to enter someone garden as well ! j/K

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Originally Posted by Lasivian

I don't understand why this is restricted in the first place......

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IMO, this is just same as we cannot feed random ppl chocobo...
To be consistency, if you can fertilize random's plant, you should be able to feed random's chocobo as well.

I very like your achievement suggestion, however, I think it should be for watering but not fertilizing. ^^;
I think achievements for saving others' dying plant also interesting.

For fertilizing - NO -
For Tending - YES - we should reward ppl who are able to spot dying plants (bluish colour), and tend them. By doing this, it will encourage people to help each others out.

I think this would be a good idea if it were tweaked a little bit.
Lets say if after you plant something in your garden you could choose individually which plant someone else could fertilize.

For example lets say you have 8 plants planted, half are long time growers that you are crossing with faster growers and you wouldn't mind the faster growers being cycled through quicker. You could set plants 2,4,6 & 8 to allow outside fertilization. Then it should be set up so a neighbor can only fertilize all the plants you allowed at onetime.
So someone cant come along and only fertilize 1 of the 4 plants you have selected. They would have to fertilize all 4 or none at all.

They could make it so its all one action attached to the plaque outside the house. Something along the lines of select the plaque, select fertilize garden then it would tell you how many fish meals you would need to complete the fertilization. It could even let you leave a note for them. You could tell them hey neighbor I fertilized your garden have a great day:)

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Originally Posted by Kio

Seems like a friendly gesture in thought but not application as it can alter the carefully planned cycles of the owner. Too bad there wasn't a different kind of fertilizer that would increase other bonuses like hq, yield, or cross breeding turn out. Then by all means have at it!

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PERFECTION!

New Fertilizer, only useful on someone else's garden, increases yield for crop & cross seeds by 1% per use.

THAT is how you solve these disagreements :)