The Vote kick System needs to be removed from the DF system it is currently being misused in every way this system as of now does more harm then it does good. Also the Withdraw from duty needs to be further refined if u withdraw more then 3 times you are locked out of all instances for 24 hours watch how fast this problem goes away.
Vote Kick needs to be Removed from DF
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11-02-2014, 01:54 PMMelondraVote Kick needs to be Removed from DF
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11-02-2014, 02:29 PMMilesSaintboroguh
Misused how? All I see is you running here whining about the vote kick system without even saying what happened, so I am led to believe that perhaps you caused some issues yourself.
And the current withdraw penalties are fine. Stop being dramatic. -
11-02-2014, 03:37 PMSpawnie
vote kick should be removed from 4 player instances yes but its fine for bigger raid parties
withdraw penalty is also fine i really dont see the problem with it hated bein queued for ST and having it pop up 10+ times only to have some1 withdraw n have to wait 30-40mins b4 it pops again lol -
11-02-2014, 03:47 PMDanbo05
I disagree. To many times I've ran into a tank that doesn't know how to tank and refused to take kindly advice. Times like these it's better to just vote kick so that you have the option to actually leave if you can't find a replacement, or are unable to finish.
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11-03-2014, 02:39 AMSilverbear
Locked out of Instances for 24 hrs?? thought after 3 it was 30mins and then for each time after that another 30mins until the count resets 9am PDT?
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11-03-2014, 04:26 AMMilesSaintboroguhHave fun being trolled in 4 man parties then lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Spawnie
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11-03-2014, 04:56 AMMrSagitarius
4 man dungeons vote kick is where it is the most important. I have experienced many instances of someone dc'ing and not returning for 10+ minutes. This is when we NEED to kick someone as some instances require 4 active persons. 8 man dungeons can at least be completed with 1 or 2 people not doing their jobs as their is another tank/healer/dps to make up for their incompetence (I know, this does not make it OK).
As far as withdraw penalties, they seem to be doing wonders for df ques. I rarely see members drop anymore. Perhaps removing the penalty from full premade parties would be more ideal, as this does not affect other players queing up. Perhaps increasing the timer to 1 minute would make things better for crafters/afk dps/gatherers/etc. -
11-03-2014, 06:22 AMLaerune
From my point of view the harm that the vote kick options brings to the party is nothing compared to having people join and go afk during dungeons/trials/raids.
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11-03-2014, 06:50 AMSpawnieive seen first timers bein kicked purely for asking what the tactics were for a boss... hows that fair to him ??Quote:
Originally Posted by MilesSaintboroguh
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11-03-2014, 07:40 AMMXMoondoggie
It's a very small minority that abuse vote kick tbh it has some important uses for getting rid of people who DC and never come back or trolls who go out their way to make a run difficult as possible for their own cheap amusement. If you really feel somebody abused it then you can report them though no guarantee that GM's will agree with you they have very specific criteria for what abuse of kicking is. You need to remember you are not the only person in the party and if you are making the run miserable for others and ruining their enjoyment then it's a legit reason to kick you.
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11-03-2014, 11:03 AMMykllAnd I've seen AFK, offline, and generally someone harassing the party being kicked. How is that fair to the rest of the party to keep that person in the group?Quote:
Originally Posted by Spawnie
You cannot make a single system that will benefit both points and have absolutely no way to abuse. In both cases, it is a community problem. -
11-03-2014, 04:35 PMAmelia_Pond_Behemoth
[QUOTE=Melondra;2553654if u withdraw more then 3 times you are locked out of all instances for 24 hours watch how fast this problem goes away.[/QUOTE]
This information is false. It's only a 30 minute penalty. -
11-03-2014, 08:58 PMLlyrenNow now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Danbo05
The rule is vote kick dps, abandon if healer or tank problems :D -
11-03-2014, 09:26 PMLithera
OP was saying to MAKE the lockout 24hrs...not that it was.. In any case the OP is still wrong. It sucks to get vote kicked when you think you did nothing wrong but that is why there's no lockout if you're vote kicked. You can queue right up again. Not so good for a DPS that is looking at a long queue again, but that isn't a problem with the vote kick system, that's a problem with the community largely preferring to DPS. If they DID remove vote kick btw they'd likely put the autokick back in for a DCed character. It was only removed because they implemented Vote Kick.
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11-03-2014, 10:48 PMZodMelThen at that point it's time to abandon the dungeon....Quote:
Originally Posted by Spawnie
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11-03-2014, 10:52 PMMyrhnIf you saw that was because you also vote yes to kick him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spawnie
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11-04-2014, 12:41 AMCYoung187Misused in every way? It is rarely misused and if it is it should be reported. So much overreaction. 24 hours for withdraw penalty? That is a complete joke, please elaborate on this "problem" that is such a big deal.Quote:
Originally Posted by Melondra
I wish we could vote kick this thread. -
11-04-2014, 02:47 AMKaeda_ValentyneThat's not necessarily true. In a 4 man party only 2 people need to vote yes to have a person kicked. The 3rd could vote no and the kick will still go through.Quote:
Originally Posted by Myrhn
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11-04-2014, 02:51 AMMyrhnI think you need simple majority for the vote to go on.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kaeda_Valentyne
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11-04-2014, 02:58 AMKaeda_Valentyne
Yeah its a majority vote on if a person gets kicked or not.
The person who is getting kicked doesn't get to vote on whether they stay or not, so you only need 2 out of the 3 people allowed to vote to say yes and they are kicked. -
11-04-2014, 02:58 AMWoggersAnd like he said 2 out of 3 is the majority. So he could've hit no and the person still gets kicked. The person up for removal doesn't get to vote, that would make in interesting if they could though!Quote:
Originally Posted by Myrhn