As an old time Final Fantasy player, I think others might enjoy this concept.
Similar to the old Final Fantasies, you would run around the open world to trigger random encounters which would teleport you into a phased battle.
You could do so alone, or in a group.
Based on zones and location the difficulty along with level would be increased of the random encounter mobs.
(you could take fishing holes as an example for how this would work)
This system would also allow for mobs to be available only at certain times of the day, along with weather requirements.
The mobs inside of these random encounters would be of "increased intellegence"
They would have more mechanics, similar to a primal for example. But possibly not as much Damage.
(although it would be interesting to have some extreme difficulty ones as well, for endgame. Possibly weapon fights for example. I.E. Omega weapon, Ruby weapon etc.)
In return to this phased area fight and increased difficulty, the rewards for leveling would be much higher, along with increased drops on items for crafting.
Random Encounters would have a Daily limit on them similar to Levequests, so that it can not be exploited. But would not accumulate, So they would have a daily allowance.
This system would relieve some of the grind in the leveling system currently in game.
(this is just a rough idea)
EDIT 1: There could be a new hunting log created specificly for Random encounters. With achievements depending on the mobs that you slay. Possible minion/mount rewards of some of the notorious/iconical monsters which could be included in the system.
EDIT 2: it's all pretty much in the game already as it is. The fishing system, and classquest/story quest fight system. (just remove the purple circles or NPC entry dialog.)
They don't have a CHANCE to spawn within a time frame, it's that their encounter is available even multiple times at certain time of day and also weather combinations.
EDIT 3: It would be an optional system, for example something you could trigger in the UI to enable random encounters.
Not just permenantly wandering the world you might randomly encounter a special monsters.
Thats the entire point of the system, to create that nostalgia effect.Quote:
Originally Posted by Codek
Along with having other ways to level/get achievements etc...
Suggestion: Random Encounters
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10-31-2014, 04:44 AMXoriamSuggestion: Random Encounters
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10-31-2014, 04:51 AMCodek
Wasn't random encounters just a gimmick earlier games would use because they diddn't have the resources to display monsters out on the field in an effective manor?
I never thought of considering it as a feature.
I like the concept of difficult single player fights but I would rather have it in a more arena based setting (like FF7's Battle Square). Having it gated behind weather effects just sounds annoying and gimmicky. -
10-31-2014, 04:57 AMzer0patches
Molulu's Charm and Moogle Job please, post haste. =p
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10-31-2014, 05:02 AMXoriamThats the entire point of the system, to create that nostalgia effect.Quote:
Originally Posted by Codek
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10-31-2014, 05:07 AMkyuven
Sounds like a pain to develop and implement. Plus are they truly random if they spawn in fixed areas at fixed times?
Less "random" and more "special event spawn" it sounds like. Like S Rank hunts. -
10-31-2014, 05:10 AMXoriamIt's definatly not a pain to develop, it's all pretty much in the game already as it is. The fishing system, and classquest/story quest fight system.Quote:
Originally Posted by kyuven
If you've played other games in the Final Fantasy series you would know what I'm talking about.
They also don't have a CHANCE to spawn within a time frame, it's that their encounter is available even multiple times at certain time of day and also weather combinations. -
10-31-2014, 05:13 AMkyuvenSo it's S rank hunts with no fixed respawn timer.Quote:
Originally Posted by Xoriam
And what you're talking about with class quests/story quests IS in the game already. They're called Guildhests. We just don't get any after lvl 40. -
10-31-2014, 05:18 AMNyarukoW
Isn't this what treasure maps are for? You are digging and gathering and minding doing what you then bam here is the key to portal to where you can fight some dangerous monsters for loot. They called a treasure map and you can instance it at your leisure and you can even trade/sell the map. But if you did the map immediately and teleported to where it wanted you to go, it would be essentially this. Good luck if you meet a Chimera from peiste map.
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10-31-2014, 05:23 AMEnthy
I don't think I would like random encounter arenas. Though FFXI kind of did this with Chigoes (unable to target and very hard to see till they aggroed you) just no arena.
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10-31-2014, 05:26 AMXoriamIt would be an optional system, for example something you could trigger in the UI to enable random encounters.Quote:
Originally Posted by Enthy
Not just permenantly wandering the world you might randomly encounter a special monsters.
I'm guessing this is probably you're first final fantasy if you don't understand the concept just from the name alone. It's not similar to hunts.Quote:
Originally Posted by kyuven
Kinda hard to level via treasure maps. and Treasure map mobs are some of the most extremely unintellegent as AI goes.Quote:
Originally Posted by NyarukoW
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10-31-2014, 05:35 AMDeifact
It's an interesting idea but I'd rather them just increase the AI for mobs we already have and maybe make time of day/weather have more impact on what monsters spawn where.
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10-31-2014, 05:37 AMXoriamThat would be nice, but it would also require them to rework the entire worlds AI and mob placement.Quote:
Originally Posted by Deifact
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10-31-2014, 05:37 AMLilRedAlchemistI think OP means more like Pokemon where you walk through tall grass and something randomly attacks you.Quote:
Originally Posted by kyuven
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10-31-2014, 05:41 AMkyuvenActually, I've played every single one of them except for 3, in addition to plethoras of others that run on the mechanic you're talking about.Quote:
Originally Posted by Xoriam
However, the concept doesn't work the same in an open world game or just MMOs in general, so I am trying to reason what you want MECHANICALLY. The screen flashing randomly and loading a special area where you fight things will never EVER happen.
It would strain the servers because of loading new areas, it would break immersion, and it's more trouble than just spawning some mobs to kill.
The old method of random encounter was, as mentioned, a mask because integrating the battle and exploration systems was a pain or impossible with the hardware they had at the time. -
10-31-2014, 05:41 AMRbstr
I think it would be hilarious if you got drawn into a little instanced fight when you're just running around.
All of a sudden "Sha" *The screen spins* https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XsSgNCdt9_I and you have to fight some dumb monster in a duel.
Also super annoying. It should be some kind of temporary game event. -
10-31-2014, 05:47 AMXoriamYeah thats why I've suggested it to be an optional system.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rbstr
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10-31-2014, 06:16 AMElurra
I think it would be cool if there was a group of assassins or something out to get you, and they could appear at any time and attack you. You'd be safe in a sanctuary, but anywhere else in the open world would be fair game. Some may not like it, but I think those who want the open world to be a little more dangerous would enjoy it. The assassins could be synced to your item level to make each encounter more of a challenge. And there could be achievements and rewards for fighting off X number of assassination attempts.
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10-31-2014, 06:35 AMGalkaBikini
OP, I actually had this idea recently while doing a quest. Since a lot of the quests are running around, it would be neat if while doing said running around, you were forced into battles. There is an Ixali daily quest that causes a mob to spawn on you while you're doing it, but you're not required to fight it and you can simply just run away from it and it will despawn. I also recall in Everquest 2 there were quests that if you had accepted them, it would cause mobs to randomly spawn on you in certain areas - even if you were already fighting.
To really give it the Final Fantasy feel, I don't think any teleportation into a different screen like single player FFs is needed, but getting into a random encounter could simply place a battle zone ring area around you that you can't exit until all the mobs are dead. And yes, like you said, it would be nice if there were mechanics and increased AI and difficulty. -
10-31-2014, 06:41 AMXoriamNot to mentional some sort of legacy random encounter theme playing.Quote:
Originally Posted by GalkaBikini