why are we not allowed to download the update yet?

I know there is still time before the servers come back up. but could you please let us update our files? I really really really do not want to download a possible 1-4 gig update an hour or less before servers come back up. the shear amount of people who are going to be slamming the servers to download the update if you do this is going to be horrible. it took me 3 hours to download the 1.7 gig patch i needed last time i updated.

so could we please start downloading the patch now and save us a enormous headache in 12 hours?

Yeah I agree !

The game has been offline for over 12 hours now, why is there no patch yet?

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If they wait 24h to release the patch the whole internet is gonna fall apart worldwide :p

Also...PS4 major update at the worst time possible.

Oh I don't know... maybe because they don't fully have the patch files up and ready, otherwise they wouldn't require such a long Maintanence.

Nothing is stopping you from downloading the patch, you just have to find it.

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Originally Posted by StouterTaru

Nothing is stopping you from downloading the patch, you just have to find it.

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The patch doesn't exist until it's finished...

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Originally Posted by Skyl1n3

Oh I don't know... maybe because they don't fully have the patch files up and ready, otherwise they wouldn't require such a long Maintanence.

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actualy, in the past i found i could download the patch, even on large updates. within 1-2 hours after the servers go down. there is a differnce between letting people download and update and updating the servers.

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Originally Posted by StouterTaru

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perhaps on pc but not on ps4.

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Originally Posted by Skyl1n3

The patch doesn't exist until it's finished...

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They haven't been frantically writing the patch for the last 12 hours, it was finished well before they took the servers down. You can get it on PS4 too, just takes even more hacking.

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Originally Posted by Skyl1n3

The patch doesn't exist until it's finished...

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seriously... do you think they are making the patch right now?

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You can get it on PS4 too, just takes even more hacking.

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Then please enlighten us oh apparant masterful wizard of 'hacking'...

I didn't say I knew how to do it, but everything is possible on the internet.

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I didn't say I knew how to do it, but everything is possible on the internet.

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If it were possible to grab the patch files whilst they were being updated through the maintanence then the source to get them from would be widely known, even then it'd be restricted via direct access, I've run multiple scans on where the Launcher calls when querying updates and they're all restricted if you try to access them manually.

ugh, my topic has been derailed into a talk about hacking the update server to get the update files.....

"In Internet, I am super hero with super powers, being the most intellect being in the whole universe..." I want the patch notes as well, willing to buy it even, MASTER HACKer. Please share it with us, O'Mighty one.

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"In Internet, I am super hero with super powers, being the most intellect being in the whole universe..." I want the patch notes as well, willing to buy it even, MASTER HACKer. Please share it with us, O'Mighty one.

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It's not uncommon for glitches to occur during implementation, requiring a little tweaking here and there. If they are minor fixes, the already compiled main patch file may get released and then minor updates could follow... but if it requires large enough changes they may opt to wait for them to test that the core update is more stable and recompile in an effort to reduce some of the follow up down time.

I'm hoping it's a case of the latter. I'd much rather wait a little longer to get the bulk of the update up front in one shot instead of a constant flux of minor updates every 24-48 hours over the next two weeks. We've all experienced enough of that recently.

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Originally Posted by Raist

It's not uncommon for glitches to occur during implementation, requiring a little tweaking here and there. If they are minor fixes, the already compiled main patch file may get released and then minor updates could follow... but if it requires large enough changes they may opt to wait for them to test that the core update is more stable and recompile in an effort to reduce some of the follow up down time.

I'm hoping it's a case of the latter. I'd much rather wait a little longer to get the bulk of the update up front in one shot instead of a constant flux of minor updates every 24-48 hours over the next two weeks. We've all experienced enough of that recently.

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true, but i also don't want to wait to install the update at the last moment and get into a bottle neck mutli hour long download war for the patch.

Periodically, 7-Zip or WinRAR compilations of the updates get posted at places like bluegartr and such. They may be considerably smaller with the .7z/.rar compression... not sure, as I haven't used the downloads for XIV yet, but it was true for the XI ones they would put up.

The patch notes still say preliminary, so I want to say that they don't want people data mining throughout the night and having an advantage over others. While I could see not being able to download the patch now (if you have a slower connection) could be an inconvenience for some, there is probably a good reason why they are not allowing the update/download at this time.

Using a P2P technology like Bittorrent could alleviate this problem immensely. This should be optional, centralized server is expensive and complicated. Just sayin'.

^Don't they do something similar to this? I know for a fact 1.0 did.

ps4 and ps3 can't exactly do p2p however.

They can easily be made to do it, but there would be a lot of hair pulling and kickback from Sony. Even if it was PC only, that would ease up on the strain for everyone, indirectly helping PS3/PS4 get faster updates.

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They can easily be made to do it, but there would be a lot of hair pulling and kickback from Sony. Even if it was PC only, that would ease up on the strain for everyone, indirectly helping PS3/PS4 get faster updates.

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very true, it would ease the load off of the ps3/4 players downloads.
actually i think a few mmos actually have a p2p system set up in their updaters to ease their server loads

They now wait last minute due to data mining. I don't think there's any other reason.

its up for download now btw, just finished my download/install a few min ago.... 1602MB size on ps3

lucky you. I've been downloading it for a bit, i'm at 447 mb and i'm downloading it between .15-.17 mb *sigh* i got a feeling i need to call my isp tomorrow and find out why i'm not even getting 1mb download speeds on what is supposed to be a 25 mb speed service.

huge update but i got mine done

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huge update but i got mine done

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.... that hurts.

I messed with my rougher and got my download speed up to .33/34 mb/s still nto good enough but it is only taking and hour now instead of 3.

also. Princess gamer luna! second best princess!

and my download speeds went down to .17mb.... ugh...