So with Dark Knights as tanks should we call players that accidentally kill themselves when they're tanking as Dark Knights....
Derp Knights?
We all know lolDark Knight would have been their nickname if they were a DD Job so a new name will be needed for players that accidentally kill themselves with due to possible Dark Knight Life sacrifice skills for their Tanking.
Derp Knights
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10-26-2014, 12:35 PMEdwinLiDerp Knights
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10-26-2014, 01:21 PMFyrebrand
1) DF queue pops, somebody in dungeon party says "Hi! Sorry, I'm new. Would appreciate any tips... :-) "
2) Nobody else says anything, DK tank charges ahead as soon as possible, pulls every mob in the dungeon and runs straight into boss room without break, spamming HP-sacrificing skills the whole way to maximize damage because in his mind he is really a DPS.
3) DK tank inevitably dies, says "noob healz, L2P or GTFO!!!" Votes to kick healer, vote passes.
4) While waiting for a new healer, tank forges ahead and charges into boss room again and again and again.
5) ?????
6) Profit. -
10-26-2014, 01:25 PMGardes
More like there'll be tons of dark knights that start the game thinking they're dps. Their typical behavior would be rushing in head first without checking who's tank and go through the 4 steps of grief (yes, 4) when party members point out they're tanks.
You queue in df as a paladin after expansion and party members would immediately drop to their knees praising their deities after they see you and start woshiping the ground you walk on. -
10-26-2014, 01:28 PMParodine
That insult doesn't address anything about their 'emo-feelz', though. It needs to hit a bit harder.
Although for a quick hit, that works well. -
10-26-2014, 01:49 PMDittoQuote:
Originally Posted by EdwinLi
Lets not get ahead of ourselves now.Quote:
Originally Posted by EdwinLi
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10-26-2014, 02:17 PMGalkaBikini
Doubt very seriously DRK has any sacrifice skills.
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10-26-2014, 02:24 PMjomoruQuote:
Originally Posted by EdwinLi
the nickname we will use is Dragoon. -
10-26-2014, 02:24 PMFallenWingsHur.. Hallowed Ground. I'm sorry.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gardes
It'll be like when most Marauders entered their first dungeon.
"Why is my class icon blue?"
Derp Knight is good but is kinda weird at the same time because PLDs are also "Knight" and DRGs are "Dragon Knight" in JP. -
10-26-2014, 02:26 PMWinterSolstice
SE didn't allow us to right click -> blacklist people for the longest time because they thought the general public was too stupid for such a feature.
I really don't think DRK will have life-sacrificing skills that can kill you. If they are in the game, they won't be able to be used unless you are above a certain HP %, sort of like Black Mages and Convert. -
10-26-2014, 02:43 PMDanbo05Pretty much this ^Quote:
Originally Posted by Gardes
You're gonna be hoping they tank, but in the end wind up tanking. Get your ninja tanks ready. -
10-26-2014, 02:44 PMRufalus
Weird thought, but I wonder if Dark Knight, which does not have a base class, actually starts at level 1, or would it start from 30. If it starts at 1, does that mean the expansion areas have some very low level mobs for beginner players, or would new Dark Knights have to start from old v2.0 content in order to gain levels. Or, is level 1 of a Dark Knight not equivalent to level 1 of older classes/jobs, but rather on a different kind of levelling scale.
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10-26-2014, 03:11 PMEdwinLiDepends on how they handle Dark Knight but most likely it may start out as lvl 1 so players can learn how Dark Knight works from the group up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rufalus
We don't want players starting out too high and missing things that they should know about Dark Knight gameplay style. -
10-26-2014, 03:12 PMSho86That would only leave them with drain type abilities, as any elemental offensive would most likely come from BLM sub-job (assuming we still have sub-skills). Since they are dodge/parry type, could be like: sacrifice X% HP for high damage/threat AoE and give a X% parry boost 10 seconds, after it ends regain x1.5 of the initial damage done as HP (or whatever number). Essentially thats just a drain, but leaves them hanging for a bit with the sacrifice. Either way I'm sure they can come up with sacrificial powers that tanks could use.Quote:
Originally Posted by GalkaBikini
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10-26-2014, 03:19 PMAmelia_Pond_Behemoth
Even though it's been said they won't be a class, I really hope it goes through a similar progression as the 2.0 jobs. 1-30 starts you with one trainer, then gains skills for 30-60 somewhere else. And I also hope that the skills shown in the "Actions and Traits" menu (not under Job) can have a few cross classable skills, especially if it'll help WAR and PLD.
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10-26-2014, 03:34 PMKamifubuki-Yoakesetsuri
Edwin grow up.
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10-26-2014, 06:59 PMBatHead
Dork Knights or nothin'
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10-26-2014, 07:06 PMErrors
Just like any new job there will be a large rush for players to play it. Just like any new content. And just like after the initial rush people will move on to something else, the bad players will be weeded it out. Hell, just keep an eye on the NIN wave that will happen next week.
As for people assuming to play DRK as a DPS as they level, the moment they hit any sort of party content they'll have a rude awakening as they are required to fill the tank position in the party. As if leveling up with a party and unlocking skills won't be any indication that, "hey this skill has enimity attached to it...and this one...and this one". And just like any other job played in the party, people seem to have zero problem just kicking a bad player. So, I don't see anything changing at all.
This isn't going to be an isolated problem to DRK. It's already happening to other jobs.