Really badly wanted DRK to be a DPS but I can deal if this means Samurai will be a DPS instead (I wanted SAM Tank more but the thought of BOTH being Tanks puts a bad taste in my mouth).
In review, please make SAM a DPS in lieu of DRK being a Tank.
If both end up being tanks I'll be a sad panda.
Of course, it's your game Yoshi-P & you're the most incredible Director ever possible (sincerely), so I surrender to your direction.
As long as it means Gunner Job comes with a DPS Role at launch (alongside Agent/Chemist if that's your plan, just please don't make us wait even more for a DPS-Gunner too)... ;)
Dark Knight is Tank...
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10-26-2014, 06:36 AMToodlesDark Knight is Tank...
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10-26-2014, 06:39 AMAshkendor
Why make a new thread when there's like 8 of them already... -.-
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10-26-2014, 06:39 AMLaralnKornera
So how many threads do you start in a day concerning other threads already up?
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10-26-2014, 06:43 AMToodles
This' basically a request to make SAM a DPS in lieu of DRK Tank, it's inherently different. Similar in title doesn't mean it's the same as the "discuss DRK" or "DRK reaction" threads.
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10-26-2014, 06:43 AMKuroganeAre
Samurai Strong Style.
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10-26-2014, 06:49 AMXoriamI'd rather have Samurai be a tank as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Toodles
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10-26-2014, 06:50 AMSpookyGhost
Make everything a tank, imo.
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10-26-2014, 06:51 AMXoriamSounds fun!Quote:
Originally Posted by SpookyGhost
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10-26-2014, 06:55 AMErrors
DRK Tank FTW!
Also, if they have SAM already on the books to release as a job my guess they have already slotted into a party role. So, making another thread just to bargain with nothing other than a plea tends not to do much of the direction. Yoshi and team look at metrics and balance, what do you bring to the table other than opinion to ensure that your idea of SAM would actually work in the game? -
10-26-2014, 07:12 AMJamez82
Could go the Ronin route for Samurai and have them go the Rurouni Kenshin route (japanese clothing instead of armor).
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10-26-2014, 07:14 AMAmelia_Pond_Behemoth
Hopefully the other two tanks can borrow skills from DRK.
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10-26-2014, 07:14 AMabzoluut
This is what we know for 3.0: 3 tanks, 3 healers (3rd healer not known yet), 6 dps (3 melee).
We have no knowledge about how many jobs they will at in total for 3.0's release. My guess is they will either add a 3rd caster dps, a physical ranged dps (BRD is the only phys ranged atm) or a tank. If SAM would be a dps, it would be melee. I can't see how they could make it ranged. This would mean 4 melee which breaks the balance.
Adding a 4th tank is not balance breaking since tanks are so underplayed. So yes, I still think SAM will be a tank if they want it for 3.0's release. Together with another healer and 2 ranged dps the balance would be perfect: 4 tanks, 3 healers, 3 melee, 2 phys ranged dps, 3 casters! -
10-26-2014, 07:24 AMZumi
Want them to make it like they did in wow. Blood DK was the tank, Frost DK was dps ect. Same class with a few different abilities.
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10-26-2014, 07:29 AMXoriamThere is no hybrid system in this game yet.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zumi
I'd suspect that wouldn't happen untill the release of advanced classes.
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10-26-2014, 08:37 AMToodlesExactly.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jamez82
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10-26-2014, 08:43 AMDelorean
I just don't ever see a heavily armored unit not being a tank in FFXIV. Fortunately, I do not think that Samurai were very heavily armored. So I believe there is a strong possibility that, if implemented, will be a damage class.
But I've just always felt like the tank role is just so weird. It's a glorified DPS (that does terrible, terrible damage) for all that it does. Any time a DPS can take damage intended for a tank, they just become obsolete. It's a design that I don't really like, because tanks are just like this cupcake holder class that don't really contribute anything to a group.
Well, you know, besides making sure their other party members aren't being mauled to death. -
10-26-2014, 08:48 AMsilentwindfr
samurai will probably wear mail, then good chance for them to be a dps. other point no interest to add 2 tank at the same time. the best idea is to release 2 dps, 1 tank and 1 healer.
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10-28-2014, 10:13 AMToodles
AGT, DRK, RDM, & SAM calling it!
Agent (heal)
Dark Knight (tank)
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10-28-2014, 10:23 AMTeslo
I really want to see Red Mages. But I think for them to work in this game they'll have to give up a little on the idea that they're a caster. The way I see RDM in FFXIV is more like a spellsword channeller.
They'd have a series of elementally charged melee attacks that, when stacked in a particular order, caused an elemental discharge (Much like a FFXI Skillchain), which the RDM would then use an additional elemental blast to deal additional damage. It's kind of like a cross between the Skillchains of FFXI and the Mudra system for Ninja.
To reflect their ability with healing magic, as well, they'd get some group-wide cooldowns, such as a group GCD/Auto Attack reduction (Haste) or a group-wide, short timer Regen or Poisona (Removes poison from everyone in the group).
All this while rockin' a small sword (Rapier or Cutlass) and a wide-brimmed cap-and-feather.
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10-28-2014, 10:26 AMKlive
Feel like I've seen this thread before....
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10-28-2014, 10:30 AMAlkimiEasy, just give Ninja utsusemi and allow everyone to cross-class it. It worked for XI, all sorts of jobs could "tank".Quote:
Originally Posted by SpookyGhost
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10-28-2014, 10:36 AMsilentwindfrit's what i think too, agent was hint at the last fanfest and for the people wondering why red mage, i will invite them to check the cover of the last art book, where you see a hyur girl hold a rapier.Quote:
Originally Posted by Toodles