Interesting Mob behavior.

I just noticed this on a jog in cassiopia caverns earlier today.

Slugs of all forms are "Non agressive" mobs but when you get near them they actually have "Hate" on you if you check them they will have glowing red hate on your character.

Obviously this is due to the behaviour slugs show of them using a that AOE attack if you linger around them for too long. I just thought it was a funny glitch where the system will show you have hate on a mob that doesn't actually engage you.

Nope, it's a mob characteristic.

They tried to give mobs a bit of flavor, which is nice.

They also had spawn cycles based on day/night, maybe even the month but that has gone by the wayside from what I can tell for now.

I do hope that makes it in for the revamp of the world zones, but they have to make sure mob distribution is OK so the economy can function.

Finding the mobs and understanding their cycles was pretty fun for me as its a semi-sandbox characteristic.

Yeah, it's something they actually extended from XI -- The goldfish mobs as they're known were one of the few in XI that were "aggressive" to you but never attacked, so clearly they have hate on you; Same with the Lycopodiums (pink flower mandragoras) but all they did was follow you and if you did a certain quest they'll cast a type of regen on you.

In XIV some mobs like Drakes will literally 'warn' you if you're too close before striking and if you don't take said warning you'll be dead in a few seconds.

I enjoyed poking at many different mobs to find out there behavioural types. It's sad that Efts no longer have a "Warning" that they have sensed your presense they just agro now...

Honestly I wish nannygoats still followed you, instead of randomly roaming around all the time. Same with dodo's. I also wish there was interactions between mobs, ya know for that immersive effect. I remember everytime I made a trip to Cassiopiea in the early days of launch, somebody would always die in the caverns walking to the aetheryte. It made me giggle.

eh, the following stuff gets kinda extreme, especially with the SP limitations on mobs you accidentally aggro.

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Originally Posted by Platinumstorm

eh, the following stuff gets kinda extreme, especially with the SP limitations on mobs you accidentally aggro.

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That's why you pay attention to what you are doing instead of zerging everything. And they are changing the SP on other mobs you are fighting as well. So, YES, I hope they do give them their /follow back

I don't think that I zerg everything, nor am I a bad player; but there are an excessive number of aldgoats in the game, and having them hump your character while obstructing the view gets to be tedious and old quickly. It really doesn't add to the immersion factor, especially if you're around livestock IRL - you want them to be nowhere near you.. trust me. I get a kick out of the ladybugs.

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I don't think that I zerg everything, nor am I a bad player; but there are an excessive number of aldgoats in the game, and having them hump your character while obstructing the view gets to be tedious and old quickly. It really doesn't add to the immersion factor, especially if you're around livestock IRL - you want them to be nowhere near you.. trust me. I get a kick out of the ladybugs.

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It's not like they are all over the place... I never had a problem watching what I did before 1.18. And frankly I think that with auto attack, people pay more attention to their surroundings.

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Originally Posted by DeadRiser

It's not like they are all over the place... I never had a problem watching what I did before 1.18. And frankly I think that with auto attack, people pay more attention to their surroundings.

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Personally the /follow was one of the things that took me out of the game. I mean sure if they glanced over and got closer or something thats one thing.

but for them to stick behind me while I'm murdering a monster near them...well all I can say if I was a aldgoat/monkey I would be fleeing in terror.

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Originally Posted by Jynx

Personally the /follow was one of the things that took me out of the game. I mean sure if they glanced over and got closer or something thats one thing.

but for them to stick behind me while I'm murdering a monster near them...well all I can say if I was a aldgoat/monkey I would be fleeing in terror.

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I personally thought it was hilarious when in a group, someobody would have 3 or 5 following them. It was funny and eventually they leave.

It'd be aggreable that if you started attacking something, then yeah they should flee or run away. But for them to not follow you period, I don't like how it is now.

I always enjoyed this most about games, RPGs in particular, but it's a sad day people rather complain than adjust, no wonder MMOs are so boring now.

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Originally Posted by Jennestia

I always enjoyed this most about games, RPGs in particular, but it's a sad day people rather complain than adjust, no wonder MMOs are so boring now.

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That's pretty much the society we live in nowadays... /sigh

Yeah, I kind of miss how monsters interacted with players pre-nomoresoulgazing. The only time it annoyed me was when I would look around for aldgoats... circle slash, and then here came the storm of aldgoats that were hiding outside my view rofl.

The slug behavior is really awesome and Id like for them to keep it and maybe even expand on it. One thing I never see in MMOs is how the monsters interact with other monsters. If a drake is wandering around I think all the other smaller monsters should flee away from it. It would also amuse me a LOT if a drake just walked up to a marmot, one shotted it, and kept on going rofl. Monsters should face you and kind of.. "puff up" at you before they aggro. Like most animals do when they feel threatened they make themselves appear larger/more intimidating. I'd also feel a lot more emerged in the game if I was fighting something small, like a ladybug or a marmot and suddenly it runs away. Why did it run away from me? Because there is a wolf behind me about to eat me instead of the marmot.

Just a thought. I'm sure there is plenty of others who will say "No! I'd rather all my monsters be cardboard boxes so they are easier to grind on!"

Wow occasionally has monsters interacting with other monsters.

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Wow occasionally has monsters interacting with other monsters.

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It also has a baby killer and pentagram kids, I haven't played but must say that was interesting/creepy when I saw the vids.

I'm just sad dodos no longer stare at you and follow you around ; ;

Why would a goat want you to follow you anyway? I have never seen a wild goat do that in real life.

im glad the goat stuff is gone had 9 goats on me and couldn't get them off me.....

Edit: oh yeah it was also fun when your leve target would follow someone else <.<

Monsters following you was nice, SE should have made the time span until they get bored of you shorter. They decided to take the feature out completely, too bad.

I don't mean to nit-pick but I think that AoE attack of the slugs is either on a timer, or completely random. I've come around a corner having just seen a slug finish that move with no one else around. Before it was theorized that if you stepped on them they AoE'd, but I've seen it never happen, or just be one of those things that happens as you pass on by.

Like a belch or something. Ahahaha.

I wish they hadn't gotten rid of the curiosity of certain mobs like Efts, now they just attack immediately. ): With mobs like goats now no longer following people, it's also a shame...But with melee attacks being AoE with no control over it, it was an issue ahaha.

I don't want Aldgoats to follow me. I do want Efts to be cautious, curious, then attack. Efts used to be interesting.

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Originally Posted by Rhomagus

I don't want Aldgoats to follow me. I do want Efts to be cautious, curious, then attack. Efts used to be interesting.

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A lot of this game used to be interesting until people complained about 2 goats following them. Boo hoo, adapt and change just like everyone had to do for 1.18

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Originally Posted by Akira_Tenshi

Why would a goat want you to follow you anyway? I have never seen a wild goat do that in real life.

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One time at Knotts Berry Farm, a goat kept following my step-dad around the petting zoo. It finally got behind him and snatched his map of the place out of his back pocket and started eating it. And it seems everybody has maps in their pockets, so maybe they were just hungry...

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Originally Posted by DeadRiser

A lot of this game used to be interesting until people complained about 2 goats following them. Boo hoo, adapt and change just like everyone had to do for 1.18

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2 goats lol i had problem when i had 9 goats stuck on me and could not move <.<

Anybody want to see the return of beastmen dancing lines?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-l_4F-jtM6g

There were so many solutions to the goat problem. The obvious one being not to shorten the amount of time they would follow you, and to have then not exhibit the behavior when you are in active mode. Hell, when they let mages cast in passive mode this would have even added another layer of tactics; cast in passive mode so you can get your regen and risk AoE a curious goat, or go in active mode to dissuade them but loose your passive regen?

There were so many things that were awesome about this game that have since been removed for no (imho) valid reason. Yoshida talks about wanting to bring life to the game, but I have to wonder what he really means. /pose doesn't bring anything to the game but re-enforcing the stereotype that all miqo'te are sluts. Meanwhile he removes one of the cooler aspects to the game - mob behavior.

I understand it though; maybe they saw all the eft parties and thought that efts needed to be more aggressive because their numbers were getting slaughtered by the hundreds. Okay, I'll by that. But why not make it that they agro active mode but still behave normally to people in passive mode?

Again, so many better solutions.

Maybe we'll get lucky and Bay will see this, pass it along, and it will be one of those situations where the dev team says, "Huh, why didn't we think of that? Gosh I feel silly."

Removing environmental interactions outside combat was a bad move... a prime example of why listening to everything the community says is not a good thing.

This was one of the few games that had that feature. Some mobs ran from you, some where curious, Some watched you run by, some did various actions if you got too close.... removing those was a major downgrade honestly.

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Originally Posted by Xatsh

Removing environmental interactions outside combat was a bad move... a prime example of why listening to everything the community says is not a good thing.

This was one of the few games that had that feature. Some mobs ran from you, some where curious, Some watched you run by, some did various actions if you got too close.... removing those was a major downgrade honestly.

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I agree, nothing made my day then the dodo/goat Congo line. My initial reaction to them was "omg I'm being mugged by a gang of livestock!!" Now its more along the lines of "awww its ignoring me... WHY?! ; ;"