...is people whining endlessly about how a cash shop for purely cosmetic items is THE WORST THING EVER TO HAPPEN IN THE HISTORY OF VIDEO GAMES.
Well, that and 1.0. 1.0 was also worse.
EDIT: And everything that happened involving Wildstar.
Honestly, there's a lot of stuff that's worse, but I felt like limiting myself to stuff involving MMOs for purposes of defining "worst".
EDIT 2: Also City of Heroes getting shut down. That was much worse.
As was that time I tried to create three HQ Isolator Components before getting a crafting class to 50.
And that time I got banned from the beta forums for suggesting that someone commit suicide in protest of Fire II not being named Firaga. Although that was less "worse" and more "still worth it". Holy hell...yeah, that garbage parade was also worse.
The only thing worse than adding a cash shop...
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10-20-2014, 11:01 AMWizardShotTheFoodThe only thing worse than adding a cash shop...
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10-20-2014, 11:02 AMSpookyGhost
Would love to see a quote where people said that the cash shop is the worst thing ever to happen in the history of video games.
Oh, or are you making that up to make the other side sound irrational?
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10-20-2014, 11:03 AMHurlstone
I must admit, the amount of venom and anger aimed at this just boggles my mind. To be fair though, such actions are coming from both sides of the debate...
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10-20-2014, 11:03 AMSilverharp
Are you kidding me? It's awesome. Every single time there's a live letter or some new info, there's tons of complaining, which means tons of lolz. I always look forward to seeing the QQ. Let my cup runneth over.~
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10-20-2014, 11:03 AMAnarnee
So long as we still get the same amount of vanity stuff as we have been in game I don't mind a cash shop.
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10-20-2014, 11:06 AMObysuca
Tbh, the main problem is if SE can truly keep it a "cosmetic item" cash shop, because I know from the countless mmos I've played, a good majority of them start off with that intention and then a few months/year down the road, start throwing in pay to win stuff, so we'll see how this plays out here. Purely cosmetic items in a cash shop isn't too bad, it's just when they decide to throw other things in there for more money.
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10-20-2014, 11:08 AMWizardShotTheFoodAlso worse: your reply.Quote:
Originally Posted by SpookyGhost
Actually, yours is even worse.Quote:
Originally Posted by vientown
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10-20-2014, 11:17 AMvientownEpic Meme Bro! xDDDDDDDDDDDDdQuote:
Originally Posted by WizardShotTheFood
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10-20-2014, 01:16 PMmadolyn
a lot of the whining is ridiculous but personally, I think it detracts from the game, even with cosmetic items, mounts, and minions.
As someone else brought up, from now on they will have to determine if an item will be made available by in game means or if they want to make a quick buck on it instead. -
10-20-2014, 01:29 PMLufir
As long as they don't sell powerful gear, more power to them. I've bought a few awesome mounts from a certain other MMO that shall remain nameless. But, never been a fan of purchasing pets/minions. So, I'm curious as to what mounts they will sell. If I like them, I'll buy em'.
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10-20-2014, 01:40 PMOmegakiyohime
If I can just steer the convo on a tangent for just a minute. What happened to Wildstar? ... Ok Fight away.
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10-20-2014, 01:45 PMAmiantosWasn't the mmo jesus people were hyping it to be.Quote:
Originally Posted by Omegakiyohime
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10-20-2014, 01:47 PMOmegakiyohimeAh, I thought that something worse happened to it. Like a second coming of the SWTOR or the TSW implosion.Quote:
Originally Posted by Amiantos
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10-20-2014, 01:49 PMNutz
I suppose I technically bought my coeurl mount and baby behemoth minion, but at the time I was wanting to support the relaunch as strongly as I could, especially since I didn't have to buy the actual game again (legacy and what not). I rather enjoy collecting mounts and minions and don't want a significant number of them to be purchasable instead of some form of in game acquisition. I'm fine with pairing tangible items with in game items, however, as it mostly just tells other players, 'hey, I bought the soundtrack/ artbook/etc.'. I'd really prefer that they not build new minions/ mounts/ furniture/ anything else and ask themselves, 'is this for a quest, recipe, dungeon, or $5?'
If it does stick to vanity, it's not ideal to me, but it's not terrible. I'm not saying it won't stick to vanity, but it is 1 step closer to selling useful items. It wouldn't even have to be game breaking, but I can certainly imagine them selling advantages. Hell, in FFXI they sold an item (tied to a real item) that allowed for a daily otherwise impossible teleport function. It was actually quite expensive, though I forget what it was called.
To me the retainers are already close to the line, if not over. They can say that they offer that extra 200 inventory spaces (plus even more room for shards/crystals/clusters if you happen to be insane) and so there's no immediate need for more inventory space. The same can happen with other items. 'We don't need to add any more minions/ mounts/ vanity gear. There's plenty on the cash shop!' -
10-20-2014, 01:49 PMAsieridIt was the result of an experiment where you get a bunch of "hardcore" people in a room. They get tired of it and leave.Quote:
Originally Posted by Omegakiyohime
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10-20-2014, 01:50 PMgorror
Keep in mind that at the begining wow's cash shop was cosmetic only and that they would never sell an ingame advantage.
And now for the low low price of (iirc) $50 you can buy a level 90 with max level professions.
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10-20-2014, 01:53 PMAsieridThis game might become easier. Quick, get rid of heals. We don't need that here.Quote:
Originally Posted by gorror
Damn, too much CC. Get rid of stuns too.
Too much damage, take out the combo system.
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10-20-2014, 01:56 PMGextivThen I guess you will mind, undoubtedly a portion of that vanity will be sent off to the cash shop. On the brought side, at least I won't have to forum (x) amount of extreme runs to get my pony...Quote:
Originally Posted by Anarnee
In fact, if I do get this Odin mount via the cash shop, it would be my very first primal pony! I just hope they do not cross that line...when they break immersion to put non-sense vanity/mounts in the cash shop, i.e like a CAR/PLANE mount, or lightsaber to glamour. -
10-20-2014, 02:05 PMAmiantosThat's cause they want new players to be able to get up there fast to raid with their friends. I'm not a fan of it but I wouldn't be a fan of slogging 90 levels alone while friends raid and leave me behind.Quote:
Originally Posted by gorror
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10-20-2014, 02:06 PMPreypacerIt's almost like someone mentioned FFXI, isn't it?Quote:
Originally Posted by Hurlstone
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10-20-2014, 02:14 PMgorrorThen make the base level 90 with the option to start out at level 1.Quote:
Originally Posted by Amiantos
Oh wait, that would cut into profit margins.
What they realy want is to make more cash off their game. Its understandable, they are a business. But don't be feed the BS lines that they are doing it for YOUR benefit, if that was the case they would not charge $50 for it. -
10-20-2014, 02:18 PMGextivYour right, why would they pass over a service that is worth more than their expansions.Quote:
Originally Posted by gorror
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10-20-2014, 02:21 PMAmiantosKnow what would hurt too? Not getting 15 a month from a possible player who wants to play with friends who spent tons of time to get there. After a certain point of a games age doing certain content is hard cause no one is there to really help. They are giving you an option too. 2 actually.Quote:
Originally Posted by gorror
1. Preorder the expansion get base game and all old expansions AND a free level boost to 90.
2. Spend the 50 just to get the 90.
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10-20-2014, 02:40 PMgorrorIf they really cared about the player who is having trouble catching up they would not charge him $50 in order to do so.Quote:
Originally Posted by Amiantos
I understand that blizzard is a business, and i understand that as a business they are in the business of making money. And i understand that as a business that is in business to make money that they weigh options to maximize profits.
But please please PLEASES do not think that they added this service for your benefit, they did it to exploit you not help you.