So are we gonna be able to convert tomes of mythology into Soldiery?

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10-18-2014, 10:48 PM
ShiloEET

So are we gonna be able to convert tomes of mythology into Soldiery?

serious question.
10-18-2014, 10:49 PM
subteraneanbird

Yes, they stated as such. Probably at a similar or identical conversion rate that we had for Philo to Myth, 4 to 1
10-18-2014, 10:53 PM
Kimikryo

What will happen to soldery gear? Dungeon drops?
I don't know if I like that.
10-18-2014, 11:00 PM
Bellissima

I would think Soldiery would get treated as Mythology gear does now, and Mythology treated as Philosophy does. Mythology gear maybe dropping from new/existing dungeons. And Soldiery still obtainable via NPC.

Link btw: http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...07c2e8b8f0e9c8
10-18-2014, 11:03 PM
ShiloEET

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Originally Posted by subteraneanbird

Yes, they stated as such. Probably at a similar or identical conversion rate that we had for Philo to Myth, 4 to 1

Alright. Thank you guys.
10-18-2014, 11:05 PM
HakuroDK

The only exception to that rule is the AF2 gear. That will probably remain buyable with Allied Seals attained from Hunts. I really doubt AF2 would be reduced to a dungeon gear drop.
10-18-2014, 11:22 PM
Tupsi

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Originally Posted by HakuroDK

The only exception to that rule is the AF2 gear. That will probably remain buyable with Allied Seals attained from Hunts. I really doubt AF2 would be reduced to a dungeon gear drop.

There's a lot of things I doubted that Yoshida proved me wrong (in a bad way) lol. Considering it's only replicas and for example the original darklight gear lore wise were gear left behind by that group of people who..got eaten basically, it would make sense that, considering the general adventuring populous, not every adventurer who set foot into hullbreaker and such succeeded and thus their gear is now dungeon drops, or every one of those best men/witnesses we killed in Tamtam were previous adventurers not suited for being a new body.
10-18-2014, 11:39 PM
Garlyle

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Originally Posted by Kimikryo

What will happen to soldery gear? Dungeon drops?
I don't know if I like that.

It won't be any time soon.

Mythology gear might turn into dungeon drops though - Philosophy did. However, Philosophy gear didn't have an alternate method to be obtained when they were released; Mythology gear does already have one (Allied Seals).
10-18-2014, 11:43 PM
Vaer

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Originally Posted by Garlyle

It won't be any time soon.

Mythology gear might turn into dungeon drops though - Philosophy did. However, Philosophy gear didn't have an alternate method to be obtained when they were released; Mythology gear does already have one (Allied Seals).

The thought of having 9 full sets plus the new dungeon sets and all the accessories in the loot pool of only 3 dungeons is actually pretty gross. Might be why they moved them to the allied seal vendor.
10-18-2014, 11:44 PM
ShiloEET

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Originally Posted by Garlyle

It won't be any time soon.

Mythology gear might turn into dungeon drops though - Philosophy did. However, Philosophy gear didn't have an alternate method to be obtained when they were released; Mythology gear does already have one (Allied Seals).

Yeah's that an excellent point to raise. They might replace it with soldiery at the seal vendor too though.
10-19-2014, 09:59 PM
Squa11_Leonhart

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Originally Posted by Kimikryo

What will happen to soldery gear? Dungeon drops?
I don't know if I like that.

It will still be soldiery gear O.o

Myth gear is now seals gear.
10-19-2014, 10:55 PM
Felis

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Originally Posted by HakuroDK

The only exception to that rule is the AF2 gear. That will probably remain buyable with Allied Seals attained from Hunts. I really doubt AF2 would be reduced to a dungeon gear drop.

There would be no AF2 obtainable before 3.0
10-20-2014, 12:14 AM
subteraneanbird

But there already is. The i90 set is AF2, because the original sets from your job quests are AF1.
10-20-2014, 12:22 AM
Lemuria

The big question raised by the new tome is whether or not they'll be changing the existing 'costs' of mythology gear, Radz-at-Han quenching oils or Thavnarian Mists... or maybe they'll be reduced to a random drop in a random dungeon alongside Coke, Potash and Animal Fats...
10-20-2014, 12:32 AM
Cadwgan

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Originally Posted by subteraneanbird

But there already is. The i90 set is AF2, because the original sets from your job quests are AF1.

No, myth gear is and always will be AF+1, same stat lines increased for the item level. In the beta they were also literally named "Gallant Coronet +1", etc. They showed off AF2 concept art a while back, what was shown in the expansion trailer is DRG AF2, the gear Rowena mass produced is a cheap imitation, same as darklight.

People keep mistakenly calling it AF2 because the names are now the same as of FFXIs relic armour sets.
10-20-2014, 03:39 AM
Valcro

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Originally Posted by Cadwgan

No, myth gear is and always will be AF+1, same stat lines increased for the item level. In the beta they were also literally named "Gallant Coronet +1", etc. They showed off AF2 concept art a while back, what was shown in the expansion trailer is DRG AF2, the gear Rowena mass produced is a cheap imitation, same as darklight.

People keep mistakenly calling it AF2 because the names are now the same as of FFXIs relic armour sets.

You're debating preference. The beta was the beta. It's not the beta anymore, and gear no longer is named ----+1 so you can't refer to it as AF+1. People in large part will choose to call it AF, AF2, AF3, and beyond. I normally refer to i90 pieces as relic but that's because everyone in my FC understands it from FFXI.

Going by your own logic, you are mistakenly calling it AF+1 because the gear had a +1 during beta, which was a past event, just like FFXI and it's armor. Do you see how pointless it is to debate preference of naming something? And most people in FFXI did not refer to relic as AF2. They called it relic armor because of the lore of Dynamis...so you trying to tie AF2 here to there doesn't make sense. People learned from XIers to call it AF, and it naturally went on to AF2 and will continue beyond.

The only reason to refer to armor in XI as AF1, AF2, and AF3, is to AIMinize relic and empyrean names to numbers and still understand what they represent. i.e. same reason lol wtf lmao etc so on exists, and it wasn't even common until recent years when Empyrean armor was unleashed and people wanted to shorten it to AF3 but couldn't without shortening relic to AF2 soooooo.... The reason to do it here is because there is practically no meaningful quest and lore to name tag them. We could even call them legendary gear(LG1/2/3/etc) at this point with what little lore there is to support it. It's sad, really, what has become of this gear from it's heyday in FFXI, just so a bunch of people aren't turned away when they are faced with a semi difficult challenge of obtaining JSE. And we know it's true! Just look at the relic reborn quest line.
10-20-2014, 03:49 AM
Squa11_Leonhart

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Originally Posted by Valcro

You're debating preference. The beta was the beta. It's not the beta anymore, and gear no longer is named ----+1 so you can't refer to it as AF+1. People in large part will choose to call it AF, AF2, AF3, and beyond. I normally refer to i90 pieces as relic but that's because everyone in my FC understands it from FFXI.
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people are wrong. its AF+1 regardless.

AF+ gear will always resemble the job quest gear to a degree

AF2 is coming to a future content patch... probably the expansion tbh. . .
10-20-2014, 04:13 AM
dvoraen

My personal hope is that they expand Grand Company ranks and do the following as a result:

- Put the Allied Seal (i70) GC gear on the higher ranks.
- Put Darklight and Mythology gear on either the GC quartermaster or just consolidate it under Allied Seals -- and keep them out of dungeons kthx; cluttered drops are cluttered.
- Make a new vendor (in Rowena's House of Splendors?) that offers it for either gil (20k+?) or reduced Soldiery prices.
10-20-2014, 04:49 AM
Velox

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Originally Posted by Valcro

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True, but the devas did confirm that the set in 3.0 is AF2. These "FFXIers" will need to keep up with the times and start calling the old set AF+1 or Enhanced AF or they are going to start confusing the hell out of people.
10-20-2014, 05:01 AM
Alukah

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Originally Posted by Lemuria

The big question raised by the new tome is whether or not they'll be changing the existing 'costs' of mythology gear, Radz-at-Han quenching oils or Thavnarian Mists... or maybe they'll be reduced to a random drop in a random dungeon alongside Coke, Potash and Animal Fats...

It will probably cost less soldiery as an additional nerf to previous relic phases, I doubt they will become random drops as they only serve for relics, while those other items (which are available in a reliable shop now) serve a wider purpose.
10-20-2014, 05:14 AM
kyuven

It's pretty clear to me they added the gear to the allied seal vendor because they were preparing for this. The allied seal vendors are likely not changing. If anything stuff will be ADDED.
10-20-2014, 08:01 AM
Cadwgan

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Originally Posted by Valcro

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http://wac.7725.edgecastcdn.net/8077...10/DRG-AF2.jpg

Are you going to tell me the devs are wrong also? Again, current myth-now-allied-seals armour is literally an upgrade with the same stat lines as artefact armour, textbook "gear+1".

EDIT: Don't get me wrong, I'm an ex-FFXI player, I just disconnected the names of the sets with an abbreviation from a different game, they are something else here.

On topic: They confirmed that old myth upgrade items are moving to soldiery and will be better than the phil-to-myth exchange rates were (4:1), however no news on the actual exchange rate.