Suggestion: Improve 18-hour venture rewards.

So I've been keeping a running tab of what my 3 retainers have brought back from the 383/308 level gathering ventures, partly due to finding no list of what top-level ventures brought back. (Put here as an image due to the limit on forum post length)

http://lasivian.com/images/Retainer%...%20Capture.PNG

Now other than the two floss silk I have yet to be impressed.

Are my expectations too high when I'm offering up 18 hours, 2 ventures and melded gear on my retainers? I don't think so.

Am I way off base?

Thanks

Wow those are way better than the HQ Courl meat/skin I get from 18hour Battle class ventures.

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Originally Posted by Pots_Talos

Wow those are way better than the HQ Courl meat/skin I get from 18hour Battle class ventures.

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Over and over and over...

18 hour are to be used when you're at work so that they still gain exp, the only thing of value they return are minions or items like floss silk. Quick Adventure = dyes.

You should be focused on what you don't want to collect yourself. In my case I made a miner for alumen and cobalt ore, botanist for random wood and 2x arcanist to grab me shit like aldoat horns. Two of the retainers also gather crystals which in turn i sell to get 2x the shards.

They said retainers are working as intended but right now they are nothing more than a waste of time since 18 hours for 3x 1star mats is a waste of time.

18 hours = 25x18 = 450 gold ore or w.e Even if you only got 10% of that, so 45 every 18 hours that would be incredibly useful. But instead you have a 0.67% return rate, you don't even have a choice in what it brings back.

Conclusion: Unless you need a minion or dye or something, stick to shards or something of value, sell what they bring back and buy what you need.

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Originally Posted by xPeAcEx

18 hour are to be used when you're at work so that they still gain exp, the only thing of value they return are minions or items like floss silk.

They said retainers are working as intended but right now they are nothing more than a waste of time since 18 hours for 3x 1star mats is a waste of time.

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Ok, the issue here is that..

#1 These are level 50 ventures, so there is no need for EXP.
#2 You're right, the return rate for 18 hours is, well, abysmal. I can easily go gather whatever they might return, and gather more of it.
#3 So hence my suggestion. Perhaps there should be more "retainer only" returns from long ventures. Getting your retainer to 383 or 308 should have ongoing reasonable returns, not just a handful of junk.

If this is how they *intend* it to work, I am not impressed.

I neither like the quantity they bring back after an 18 hour exploration nor do I like the very limited choice. A well equipped miner should be able to bring back more items than Volcanic Rock salt and Darksteel Ore. Why no 2 star items? Why no poly crystals? And why on Earth only THREE items for 18 hours? At least 30 would sound a lot more reasonable to me

The 18hrs isn't the measure of the scope of the venture, it's the 2x Ventures it requires.

If you could pay up to 36x Venture coins to increase reward for that 18hr period, it would be cool.

Dodo feathers 4 life.

Think the 18 hour ventures are for exp and quick ones for items.

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Originally Posted by Ignnis

Dodo feathers 4 life.

Think the 18 hour ventures are for exp and quick ones for items.

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Yes, but there is no need for EXP on the level 50 18-hour ventures.

Yeah, feeling a little miffed that it can take months for them to bring back enough 'retainer only' things to cover the cost of melding the gatherer retainers. I've just been using mine for getting shards now, which makes me even more sad that I spent time giving them new sets of gear.

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Originally Posted by Lasivian

Yes, but there is no need for EXP on the level 50 18-hour ventures.

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Hence you should be doing quick ventures is what the others are trying to say.

Also i'm noticing that there is no materia coming from the highest levels, but the lower 18-hour ventures returned materia.

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Originally Posted by Zedd702

Hence you should be doing quick ventures is what the others are trying to say.

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Right, and I am saying that means that the 383/308 level 50 18-hour ventures are broken.

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Originally Posted by Lasivian

Also i'm noticing that there is no materia coming from the highest levels, but the lower 18-hour ventures returned materia.

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I actually did get a couple varieties of materia from the highest level 18 hour venture from both PGL and MIN retainers recently, though of course they never bring back anything better than tier 3, and I'm not even sure I've ever seen on of those.

What really bugs me is how extremely rare they make the class specific minions. If you want them to be really rare just make them untradable and make it so that they can only return it once. I've been wanting a minecart for a loooong damn time. Long enough to have several stacks of darksteel, volcanic rocksalt, and gold.

From the 2.4 patch notes:

Certain items available in the following exploration ventures have been changed:
Highland Exploration XII
Highland Exploration XIV
Woodland Exploration XIV
Waterside Exploration XIV

And there is a new XV level venture.

the problem with quick ventures is they cost so much more ventures if you send them out 4 times a day and have 4 retainers thats a lot of seals to gain to replace the ventures your spending. whether they be hunt seals or gc or even doing beastribe and leves or treasure maps will cost you a lot of time for what mainly is junk returned as well.

the 18 hour ventures should have a reasonable chance to return something of value or atleast of reasonable use since obviously value would decrease due to more being found.

why floss silk is so rare baffles me as the other two pieces of glam for the set are common and cheaply made.

at the very least they should be offering more mats from the current myth purchase's (cashmere, saurian, tawny latex) and not gold ore and darksteel and volcanic rock salt.

maybe they can even on occasion bring back stacks of ventures or some of those sands of time / oils of time. something of value to the player and not neccisarly tradable.

They added the awesome Fat Cat minion to Waterside Exploration XIV. Waterside exploration now has a worthwhile reward :D.

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Originally Posted by Whiston

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Ahoi
I rly dont know whats the problem.
Srsly, this is a BONUS task u "can" do if u "want", nothin more nothin less.
If ur retainer come along with great items, well fine...Nicely done my beloved female Miquote slave *petpetpet*.
If not, who cares?
Its not expensive, nor issit much time consumin anyhow to get those ventures.
5 pieces at the costs of 1k GC seals, thats nothin if u ask me.

And about that inventory slot...cummon, lame excuse to get better items much?
I like it, i have nearly no problem with it at all.

Tough.
1. Ur Retainers should be able to wear GC equipment. (of ur GC)
2. There could be a wider variety of items. More fun stuff.

Greetz,
Mörser out