Crafter raids!

We've gotten a good start to epic stuff for crafters with the Ixali beast tribe quests. We even got new gloves from it.

But we still have a lot of i55 equipment to replace. Weapons are taken care of already, as well as head, but what about the rest?

One word: Crafteraid.
Two words: Crafter Raid.

A crafter raid is exactly how it sounds. The main fighters need supplies, right? The people going in can be represented by NPCs, and while they fight the mobs, we sit back and have to create supplies for them as shouted for. We would be given the mats like the Ixali quests do. The story of why you make items during their fight is that you throw them at the fighters.

If you successfully keep the group up, you get a treasure box containing crafter gear. You can only lot on pieces for your current class only. Maybe limit it to like once a day so it doesn't get ignored after a week.

You could even use current raids and make little funny names for them! Crafter Tower, Crafting Coil of Bahamut, stuff like that.

This would allow those who want to see the story but really prefer crafting over fighting.

Coincedentally, there are currently eight crafting classes. IT WAS MEANT TO BE!

Another suggested idea I like the sound of.

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Originally Posted by The_Last_Dragoon

Crafting PvP

Instead of fighting on the war front, instead gather materials and craft supplies/weaponry which can have a variety of boons such as spawning npc guards on owned territory, faster capture rates, HP buffs, and the ability to give your entire team a fleet of Magitek Reapers. Of course, this also means you would have to find a safe place to craft and gather since the enemy can still target/destroy your supply lines.

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Well actually there are a couple games out there that have something akin to crafter raids. It COULD work, too.
A group of crafters is given an assignment that has to be completed in a certain amount of time, and they get rewards based on how fast and how well they accomplish it.
Kinda like item acquisition FATEs or gatherer leves, except they can be done as a group.
I've also always liked the idea of an actual combat raid that requires a gatherer or crafter, such as a boss that can only be defeated with a special concoction that has to be prepared on the spot, or a fished up raid boss kinda like that one hunt target.

as an avid crafter I'm always up for more. I really want more -collaborative- crafting projects too. Bring it all on.

Tanaka-san once talked about groups of crafters building giant cakes.

Cake plz.

reminds me of the moblin maze mongers,

I'd be happy with that whole system again,
ovbviously updated and touched up though
of course! +1'd

If there's one thing I've always wondered, it's why SE went to the trouble of making crafters and gatherers in FF14 their own unique classes, and yet have no reason for them to form parties whatsoever. Makes me miss the Hamlet Defense instances from 1.0 - the concept, anyway, not the farming for seals for your relic part, or having random people ninja-dump several million points worth of items for top provisioner rank at the last minute part...

This was tried before in 1.0 it was called hamlet and almost everyone disliked it and it didn't come back for 2.0. Yoshi P said they wouldn't make the mistake of having crafters in battle again.

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Originally Posted by Zumi

This was tried before in 1.0 it was called hamlet and almost everyone disliked it and it didn't come back for 2.0. Yoshi P said they wouldn't make the mistake of having crafters in battle again.

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Realistically though, that's because of the godforsaken system they did it with.
It pretty much required the gatherer/crafter AND you needed someone to place
in that ranking system to have a decent chance of a drop. The implementation
was way off.

I believe this thread isn't stating to bring crafters into battle content. But for content
for crafters. Almost two sides of the same coin but different. I personally wouldn't mind
either way so long as they at least think first lol (which this is SE so... )

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Originally Posted by Zumi

This was tried before in 1.0 it was called hamlet and almost everyone disliked it and it didn't come back for 2.0. Yoshi P said they wouldn't make the mistake of having crafters in battle again.

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I missed that part of 1.0, did they actually fight? I vaguely recall they had a weak attack for protecting themselves but that's it.

My idea is more akin to crafting an item to negate a boss's abilities while NPCs battle it out. Like for example, have a blacksmith, an armorcrafter, and a carpenter have to make a ground to negate an electric attack. The crafters would be locked out of the battles.

I'm actually kind of surprised to see mostly comments of liking the idea. o.o I figured I'd just get a lot of people complaining we didn't earn the story properly. Think I may take out the bits of it being a joke. XD

Crafting PvP

Instead of fighting on the war front, instead gather materials and craft supplies/weaponry which can have a variety of boons such as spawning npc guards on owned territory, faster capture rates, HP buffs, and the ability to give your entire team a fleet of Magitek Reapers. Of course, this also means you would have to find a safe place to craft and gather since the enemy can still target/destroy your supply lines.

I will always support ideas that want more content for crafters. So far I have only 2x 50 lvl crafter but I would love more content. Ixali beast tribe quests were fine (and they are the reason why I have leveled my WVR from 25 to 50). :))

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Originally Posted by The_Last_Dragoon

Crafting PvP

Instead of fighting on the war front, instead gather materials and craft supplies/weaponry which can have a variety of boons such as spawning npc guards on owned territory, faster capture rates, HP buffs, and the ability to give your entire team a fleet of Magitek Reapers. Of course, this also means you would have to find a safe place to craft and gather since the enemy can still target/destroy your supply lines.

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I like this. Hope you don't mind if I quote it in my main post. :D

Sounds fun, I imagine it would be like an RTS type mini game. Reminds me of the FF7 Fort Condor game where you placed units around the battle. Your part in the mission is overall strategy and resource management rather than single combat.

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Originally Posted by Zumi

This was tried before in 1.0 it was called hamlet and almost everyone disliked it and it didn't come back for 2.0. Yoshi P said they wouldn't make the mistake of having crafters in battle again.

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Yoshida said this about crafters and gatherers in main story battles. I hope they bring back hamlet defense or something alike. Where you can get good tools for DoL and DoH and good gear for DoW and DoM as a reward.

Only problem with hamlet defense was that it became a bottleneck for the relict quest, like the ATMAs here in ARR. If you do something 20 or more times to farm something with low droprate, you start to dislike it.

Information about Hamlet Defense for people who don't know it:
http://lodestone.finalfantasyxiv.com...mletdef01.html