No Gear Drops from Expert Roulette?

I'm already annoyed with Expert due to the fact that all I get day after day is Stone Vigil (Hard), which I already. Personally since I posted that I am still only getting Stone Vigil (Hard), RNGesus save me...

Yet another issues arises with Expert Roulette dungeons... crafting mats.

I have done multiple runs, trying to get gear for tank and only gotten crafting mats: Every. Single. Time. And I'm not talking about; oh look 2 chests had mats and some other gear dropped, and no tank. I am saying crafting mats from every chest all the way through until the end. One of my friends has been trying to get the dragoon gear set for months and said he sees crafting mats about 75-80% of the time.

Congratulations, you beat the dungeon! Have a Filtered Water... :confused:

To make issues worse, the mats they do have drop (instead of useful gear) are so minute that there is nothing you can really do with them. Here have 1 peacock ore, even though it takes 9 to do anything with it, at least make it something viable. If you don't need the gear, you get like 900+ Grand Company Seals for it, but with crafting mats I get 1 ore? 1 Filtered water? 1 Animal fat?

Between this and the fact that I get the same dungeon continuously, I am wondering if that roulette and those dungeons are balanced properly. While crafting supplies are nice, I don't want them every run from every chest especially when the amount you get is pretty much pointless. :(

oh we killed (insert random boss) , lets see what cool drops are inside that gold chest....

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and thats why i dont touch 4 man since i finished books :D

To be fair, the mats that drop cost 2,500 seals each. :(

However, sometimes I do wish the dungeons would drop more gear. As it is now, I've never seen the caster robe drop.

It is quite depressing, at least for people who have no need for the gear the seals from them or vanity are far more worth then crappy crafting mats, i think one SV run we saw 3 peacock ores in a row, so not only was RNG cruel enough to only give crafting mats it picked the SAME ONE. 3 times back to back. i mean each boss dropped 1 ore each..

It's gotten to the point i really don't even want to do Roulette anymore unless i need to desperately cap soildery, because crafting mats are not good motivation.

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Originally Posted by AdamFyi

To be fair, the mats that drop cost 2,500 seals each. :(

However, sometimes I do wish the dungeons would drop more gear. As it is now, I've never seen the caster robe drop.

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It doesn't matter. Many are worthless on the AH. Filtered water anyone? It's a waste of a drop and a slap in the face for beating a boss.

Filtered water sales for 600 and the blood for 12. These are by far the most common mats. In these dungeon. The idea of crafting mats was ok in the first round of dungeons because you still had 2 chest that always gave gear, outside of the boss. In the new dungimp only boss chest give gear and I've run hull breaker 6 times in a row and seen nothing but crafting mats, and I've never seen more then 2 ppeices of gear drop in the same run.

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Originally Posted by Tiggy

It doesn't matter. Many are worthless on the AH. Filtered water anyone? It's a waste of a drop and a slap in the face for beating a boss.

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I guess, but they aren't all completely useless! You can collect them up for the augmented attire, which some of the mats require (like filtered water, surprisingly), if you want to go the cheapest route, ofc.

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Originally Posted by Pocchory

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Q: Can you please make it so equipment drops in instanced dungeons more than crafting materials?

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A: When I can find the time, I've been playing through my fair share of dungeons, and I came across someone that looked just like an NPC. I was really impressed with their choice of gear, but because their set wasn't complete, they've been continuously doing high level dungeons to get the items they need, but crafting materials keep dropping. Since the popularity of glamours have been increasing, I'll be talking to the item team and looking into adjustments for this.

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It's not a definitive response, but I'd be surprised if they don't at least change the drop rates.

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Originally Posted by AdamFyi

I guess, but they aren't all completely useless! You can collect them up for the augmented attire, which of t mats require (like filtered water, surprisingly), if you want to go the cheapest route, ofc.

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Ixal Oaknots are an easier source tbh

I think they should change the drops so that gear drops from bosses and the mats drop from all of those little miscellaneous chests scattered about the dungeon. Right now, the only drops from those are items no one ever even uses, and are so plentiful in the game that they sell on the market boards for peanuts because no one uses them ever.

I think the crafting mats should drop from the mobs or include them in chests throughout the dungeon. Boss chests should drop gear or perhaps crafting materials that can only be found in that dungeon.

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Originally Posted by HakuroDK

I think they should change the drops so that gear drops from bosses and the mats drop from all of those little miscellaneous chests scattered about the dungeon. Right now, the only drops from those are items no one ever even uses, and are so plentiful in the game that they sell on the market boards for peanuts because no one uses them ever.

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This is a great idea... put it in those chests where you get X-Potions and such - make those the crafting item chests. Then make the boss chests gear. I don't like running a whole dungeon and not get one piece of gear.

Same. I never managed to finish the sets from the 2.2 dungeons and even though it's i70 gear I'd like it for glamour.

Yeah, there's nothing quite like the exhilarating experience of beating the kraken in Hullbreaker and getting six vials of voidsent blood as your reward. It's like getting "Charlie Browned" on Halloween, except getting a rock would be mildly awesome.

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Glad to know I'm not the only one with this issue... but also sad to know that so many are having this issue as well.

Id rather have useless gear to glamour and excess useless gear to convert to GC seals and use those seals to get the mat or item that I want.

I also feel annoyed by the high dungeon mat drops. I've also been trying to farm the dragoon set (just need the head piece) and there were a good number of runs that had nothing but mats drop. I thought there was an even possibility of mats and gear dropping throughout the dungeon, like having a mat drops throughout the dungeon and at least 1 or 2 gear drops from bosses. Nope, all chests have high drop rates for mats and very little rates for gear. I just gave up on that last piece, not worth it to me.

OH LOOK A GEAR DROP! oh... it's just a bracelet... I guess I'll roll on it just to get SOMETHING that's a mat drop!

Not to mention that with the introduction of the Ixali Knots that can let you net about 8-10+ mats in a day, I can see the value of the mats dropping in the future. Yet they'll still hold the trend of having mats drop in high level dungeons.

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Originally Posted by Volcano

It is quite depressing, at least for people who have no need for the gear the seals from them or vanity are far more worth then crappy crafting mats, i think one SV run we saw 3 peacock ores in a row, so not only was RNG cruel enough to only give crafting mats it picked the SAME ONE. 3 times back to back. i mean each boss dropped 1 ore each..

It's gotten to the point i really don't even want to do Roulette anymore unless i need to desperately cap soildery, because crafting mats are not good motivation.

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I'll take those peacock ores off your hands, I need not glamour but I love me some crafting to make gil off it. >_>

In my case you were super lucky and I wish I was you considering I can't start getting master crafts without ores or seals. :o

Edit: I avoid beastmen tribal stuff, especially the Sylph and Ixali. Partially due to laziness and partially due to it just not being too much of an enjoyment or interest to me. ^^; (No, I don't really care if I can get a mount or minion from it.)

I've stopped doing the expert a long time ago for farming purposes. The only reason I go now is for my daily Alex map. I couldn't tell you the last time I've seen a boss chest actually drop gear though.

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Originally Posted by HakuroDK

I think they should change the drops so that gear drops from bosses and the mats drop from all of those little miscellaneous chests scattered about the dungeon. Right now, the only drops from those are items no one ever even uses, and are so plentiful in the game that they sell on the market boards for peanuts because no one uses them ever.

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I would prefer if they did similar to ST where gear dropped with xx% chance of additional stuff. in dungs would be gear +say 30% of also dropping crafting mats.

I wonder why they even bothered putting actual stats on the dungeon gear. By the time most people get a drop they are looking for, let alone a complete set, they are able to buy Myth/Soldiery gear with the tomes earned from running the dungeons. The gear in there is purely for glamour.

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Originally Posted by Kikosho

I wonder why they even bothered putting actual stats on the dungeon gear. By the time most people get a drop they are looking for, let alone a complete set, they are able to buy Myth/Soldiery gear with the tomes earned from running the dungeons. The gear in there is purely for glamour.

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Actually, I've been running Stone Vigil HM to get gear for one of my retainers to push him above i80 so he'll get some rare items from quick ventures. So I do technically need the stats, or at least the ilvl, to work with. Then there are others who wish to gear up their alternate jobs to keep them up to par with their main.

You'd have an easier time running T1-5 for gear.

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Originally Posted by Kikosho

You'd have an easier time running T1-5 for gear.

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Not solo, I don't. Have you ever tried running T5 through DF? It's a freaking nightmare.

I have. And like I said, it's much easier to run t1-5 or gear retainers in myth gear. I'm not sure what classes your retainers have but easily geared past ilvl 80 using CT1/2, Coil and myth gear. In that timespan, I've seen 1 one of the MNK bodies from current dungeons.