Tired raiding SCH looking for a proven T9 kill capable group to sub me in

Here's my story

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...=1#post2501100

For feeling like a beaten dog right now, I have more pride than to pay people/blatantly ask to be carried while I take a dirt nap all fight in T9.

I will learn the last phases. I will earn this kill, and I probably already have with the drive, and fruitless effort I put in. Hell, i'd be okay if you purposefully wipe if I die at any one point in the fight.

ilvl105 or 6 sch (i really dont care to remember because there's more to mmos than ilvl).

Laugh if you will. I really can't feel much worse as far as anything in game is concerned. Knowing all my experience and effort only amounts to this is enough damage.

Send mail in game if your group actually takes pity on my stupid self.

By "proven T9 kill capable", I mean you have this on farm. I want players that could remind me of the actual talented raiding groups I had in WoW 5 years ago.

As I've said in my short story, first hand experience goes as far as heavensfall, and 2nd ghost.

ROFL... Isn't going into a T9 "Kill group" still being carried? I believe so.. I got an idea.. You drop me 15 mil and My team will carry you.. You can try to keep up but ROFL..

Well people are giving crap about my earlier post.. For u 10 mil.. I feel bad for ur lack of skill and ability's to do such things so this is a nice discount.

I guess you can say surrounding yourself with players capable of a T9 kills is being carried.

Which means you're being carried by your team.

You're sure as hell not carrying 7 other people to a kill by yourself. Especially if they're not capable.

Each individual person on your team, including you, was being carried by the rest of the team.

Grats on being carried already.

Interesting logic, however.. There is no I in team..It's a team not a solo fight. You see we work and coordinate correctly, unlike your fail group that ur leaving... Because if you understood the logic in that you wouldn't be running around asking to be carried.

So simple terms, We work as a team to excel in our victories

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Originally Posted by fanservice

I guess you can say surrounding yourself with players capable of a T9 kills is being carried.

Which means you're being carried by your team.

You're sure as hell not carrying 7 other people to a kill by yourself. Especially if they're not capable.

Each individual person on your team, including you, was being carried by the rest of the team.

Grats on being carried already.

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If you really wanted people to believe in your capabilities, then perhaps it's not in your best interest to display your autism so openly. Do you really not see the difference between working on content with your team of players with similar expertise and joining an existing group of 7 experienced players who have the content on farm? How do you have the audacity to even proclaim such things?

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Originally Posted by Uninstall

If you really wanted people to believe in your capabilities, then perhaps it's not in your best interest to display your autism so openly. Do you really not see the difference between working on content with your team of players with similar expertise and joining an existing group of 7 experienced players who have the content on farm? How do you have the audacity to even proclaim such things?

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/10char

This thread will only bring salt.

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Originally Posted by Kerwin

This thread will only bring salt.

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Good! I need some extra for my popcorn...

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Originally Posted by XIrOnY

Good! I need some extra for my popcorn...

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Toche' Sir.

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Originally Posted by XIrOnY

Interesting logic, however.. There is no I in team..It's a team not a solo fight. You see we work and coordinate correctly, unlike your fail group that ur leaving... Because if you understood the logic in that you wouldn't be running around asking to be carried.

So simple terms, We work as a team to excel in our victories

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People standing in bad stuff when they know better? DPS not killing green golem before switch despite my use of selene, and SCH dps when I know they're capable of more? People dropping meteors on top of each other when they know better? People getting devoured, killed by blighted, and acid rain when they know better?

It's all out of my hands. Teamwork does not cover for individual mistakes people should not make to something they know.

You guys could have great teamwork, and know the fight, but if individual members take turns messing up something critical each attempt when you know that responsibility is all on them, how would you feel?

Maybe you're right. Maybe there's some... force of teamwork missing to encourage people to not take acid rain showers despite a callout in mumble. I just see people who know better than that, take turns failing at it. Neither the team, or myself can't do anything more for them besides swiftcast + res. Is there something I'm not doing that could prevent that? Is there something the team is not doing to prevent that?

Should I really feel guilty about wanting to run with people who keep stuff like this to a minimum?

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Originally Posted by Uninstall

If you really wanted people to believe in your capabilities, then perhaps it's not in your best interest to display your autism so openly. Do you really not see the difference between working on content with your team of players with similar expertise and joining an existing group of 7 experienced players who have the content on farm? How do you have the audacity to even proclaim such things?

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I'd like to keep going with my current group, but that shameful display in T6 last night from the people I was working on T9 with isn't encouraging. Especially considering the past week and a half of our original static WHM going MIA without a word, throwing away a chance to be in a T9 group for the sake of this group, and having to teach a new WHM everything about coil 2 now.

I've given everything I could to the team at this point. I'm literally at a loss. I don't know what more can I do for them as long as they insist on making the aforementioned mistakes. If you know what I can do to make these people not make these mistakes, I am all ears (or eyes, w/e). Please, tell me.

If your group is the problem and it's not you, then prove it.

I want to see PoV videos and some parses. I want to see something more than talk from you. Stream an appreciable number of attempts and post the related ACT parses and if it really isn't your fault, then I can almost guarantee someone will pick you up, but talk is cheap.

what is the meaning of this?

If you choose to keep at it, it might be worth having someone announce the critical parts of the fight. Things like calling an incoming Lunar Dynamo, which Golem to focus on, that the red Golem is about to spit it's nasty AoE. Stuff like this is obvious for the farm groups but for progression groups, constant announcements in voice go a long way. They'll become even more vital in the final phase progression.

If the DPS are still not putting out enough and are unwilling to improve/react to mechanics I'd recommend server hopping to a T9 raid group looking for a SCH. Especially if the Malboro endgame community is anything like it is represented in this thread.

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Originally Posted by NovaUltimatum

If the DPS are still not putting out enough and are unwilling to improve/react to mechanics I'd recommend server hopping to a T9 raid group looking for a SCH. Especially if the Malboro endgame community is anything like it is represented in this thread.

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Please don't use this thread as a base to how the rest of us are...

Anyway Ava, you knew very well that when you left Hyperion after another drama that Malboro was a mid server. Quality top raiders are few here. To vent that you got caught playing with filthy casuals is simply disrespectful to the people you have raided months with. They to want that T9 as much as you do, and got screwed out just like you did with your WHM disappeared.
With how things are now, you already getting a bad reputation for all this, so it's up to you how you want to proceed.

WHM going MIA?

Get an experienced WHM.

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Originally Posted by NovaUltimatum

If the DPS are still not putting out enough and are unwilling to improve/react to mechanics I'd recommend server hopping to a T9 raid group looking for a SCH. Especially if the Malboro endgame community is anything like it is represented in this thread.

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Unfortunately, those of us who are the most vocal are the ones leaving the impression. The end-game community is extremely small on our server, so finding people with the right attitude is sometimes a little rough.
Ava, I know we have met many times and discussed end-game, and I'm sorry you are still struggling to find a group you are comfortable with, but the advice Nova gives is probably the best advice given so far. I would also suggest jumping on next week when the new patch hits with its influx of returning players, and maybe try to put a group together during that time.

Lol malboro endgame

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Originally Posted by SanjuroXI

Lol malboro endgame

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^^ Hehe. so good

Lulz This post is funny... I haven't passed t9 yet but I shall learn it as well. I guess you could say I was kinda carried through t8 but at least the group was also teaching me as well. I dun like being carried through anything. But to say that you as an individual is carrying 7 other ppl is hilarious.

-Throws popcorn at everyone-

To be honest alot of groups have faltered at T9, which is a shame because its a fun fight. I think many raiders have experienced a boss that they know individually are fully capable of downing, but for one reason or another can't. It's really easy to put that frustration on to your fellow raid members

That being said, keep plugging away at it. At the end of the day, if someone isn't hacking it, or the group just isn't working, changes have to be made. I have seen far to many people in MMOs stick with groups that they aren't happy in out of a sense of loyalty; I would try to switch groups, and if necessary, switch servers. If progress is your ultimate goal, then you need to surround yourself with people who share that value

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Originally Posted by Qsilver

That being said, keep plugging away at it. At the end of the day, if someone isn't hacking it, or the group just isn't working, changes have to be made. I have seen far to many people in MMOs stick with groups that they aren't happy in out of a sense of loyalty; I would try to switch groups, and if necessary, switch servers. If progress is your ultimate goal, then you need to surround yourself with people who share that value

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I actually had an issue with this cuz I tried to tuff it out when I was being treated like crap. Just need to find like minded individuals. Loyalty is a good quality but not when you are being treated like crap. I thought about switching servers but I have too many friends on Malboro to leave. So now the hunt is on for a new group or to form one.

Instead of looking for a "Proven" raid group why not just form one and help ppl learn??? Put up a pf I'm sure you can find ppl to form a new group