We all know that undead creatures exist (such as zombies and skeletons), but...

...isn't it weird that they're all Hyur-based?

Is there any lore explanation as to why we haven't seen/faced any undead creatures based on the other races? I mean they are all born, live and die just like the rest of mortal creatures, so why Hyur get the special undead treatment?

Because it'd be very interesting to face a zombie Roegadyn or a reanimated Lalafellin skeleton...

EDIT: And before you point it out, yes, I know Liavinne (who's an Elezen) counts as a non-Hyur zombie, but I meant for regular mobs out in the overworld and dungeons.

I had always wondered why there were no Lala or Roe zombies running around... >A>

There aren't that many Lalafell enemies period.

I'm pretty sure that there's a quest where you fight reanimated Elezen in Mor Dhona. Not to mention that the main bosses and enemies in Haukke Manor are supposed to be Elezen as well. Other than that, there aren't THAT many areas that are populated with the undead (not counting skeletons since there's no telling what race that skeleton belonged to), and they probably wouldn't look all that special since they'd probably just make their skin grey/pale and turn their eyes white.

*points to Tam Tara HM*
They got lalafell, Elezen, Roe and Hyur mob's on the first boss fight and they are all zombies.

IDK why there is a lack of Miqo zombie's though.

A lalafell sleleton would look too creepy if they were a hoard mob
I.e like the slugs in WP
Also their bones must be really soft/ baby like due to their aging and structure lol.
Meaning 1 good ol stomp will kill em ^^
Imagine issac from deadspace stomping on lalafell necromorphs.

They probs just wanted to reuse the skeleton template they already had = less work

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Originally Posted by The_Last_Dragoon

There aren't that many Lalafell enemies period.

I'm pretty sure that there's a quest where you fight reanimated Elezen in Mor Dhona. Not to mention that the main bosses and enemies in Haukke Manor are supposed to be Elezen as well. Other than that, there aren't THAT many areas that are populated with the undead (not counting skeletons since there's no telling what race that skeleton belonged to), and they probably wouldn't look all that special since they'd probably just make their skin grey/pale and turn their eyes white.

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Well a miqote skeleton should still have a skeletal tail

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Originally Posted by LiveVoltage

*points to Tam Tara HM*
They got lalafell, Elezen, Roe and Hyur mob's on the first boss fight and they are all zombies.

IDK why there is a lack of Miqo zombie's though.

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Really? Because IIRC the minor zombies accompanying Zombie Liavinne looked more like Hyur ones, but ah well...

EDIT: Been re-analyzing some video footage on her fight, and you're right: there ARE Lala zombies there, as well as Mi'qote ones (no Roes in sight tho'...).

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Originally Posted by Yumi_umi

They probs just wanted to reuse the skeleton template they already had = less work

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That's the realistic reason as to why there aren't, which I kinda figured already.
Still, it's fun to speculate on "lore" reasons as to why there aren't that many in-game, heh.

Well, lore wise hyur, specifically midlanders, are the most versatile which resulted in them being the most populace/seen in evey city state in eorzea. Even a hyur was a dragoon in Ishgard.

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Originally Posted by myahele

Well, lore wise hyur, specifically midlanders, are the most versatile which resulted in them being the most populace/seen in evey city state in eorzea. Even a hyur was a dragoon in Ishgard.

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I vouch for this as Cannon due to the fact that the Dragoon questline teacher and quest giver was a Hyur Dragoon before his wounds made him retire. I cant remember though if he was a regular Dragoon or an Azure Dragoon.

There was also a Zombie Godbue as the first boss in the lost city of Adampor.

There was also an undead Dragon in the Labyrinth of the Ancients as the first boss as well.

Having a hard time remembering if there are other undead.

PS: Sorry that I posted variants of undead that arent PC races. I did it though as it pertained to the thread to some extension.

Okay, I think there miiight be an explanation for this.

During the War of the Magi, in order to fight against Amdapor (and whatever third nation was involved), Sil'dih revived their fallen soldiers so they could continue to fight on the battlefield. This eventually caused the destruction of their nation and I think even the coming of one of the Umbral eras. That IS the canon reason for why there are still zombies in Thanalan. The question is - are the zombies we can fight the exact same ones from Sil'dih, being centuries old? Or did someone (or the zombies themselves) create more zombies since then? Is some of the magic still there, just automatically reviving corpses?

As for why they're all Hyur, it could be because Sil'dih was around before Lalafell (or the other races) appeared. Or they just had Hyur in their standing military. Just like there's some debate over whether or not there were Elezen and Hyur living together in Amdapor at this time, I think the case is the same here.

I think it was Ul'dah or some precursor city to Ul'dah that Sil'dah was fighting, but I'm not 100% sure on that.

As for the Dragoon quest giver, he was the Azure Dragoon, although his true reason for retiring as a Dragoon all together wasn't due to any injuries, but for another reason which I'll refrain from mentioning due to spoilers. His protege ended up becoming the current Azure Dragoon, and is a hyur as well.

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War og the Mai had Nym, Amdapor and a third (yet) unnamed nation fighting each others. The thrid nation survivors ended creating Belah'dia after the war, which in turn made Ul'dah and Sil'dih after.
Sil'dih did not take part in the War of the Magi.

However, I'm pretty sure Sil'dih created Undead to fight Ul'dah.

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Originally Posted by Rekenber

As for the Dragoon quest giver, he was the Azure Dragoon, although his true reason for retiring as a Dragoon all together wasn't due to any injuries, but for another reason which I'll refrain from mentioning due to spoilers. His protege ended up becoming the current Azure Dragoon, and is a hyur as well.

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Without spoiling too much, we see in this patch Main scenario quest that being Hyur doesn't seem to be a problem to have important positions in Ishgard.

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Originally Posted by Alenore

However, I'm pretty sure Sil'dih created Undead to fight Ul'dah.

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Yes. Here's some dialogue from the monk quest-line I found a while back on a deceased thread somewhere:

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"I need hardly mention that Sil'dihn civilization is now centuries dead.

Sil'dih was plunged into chaos in the wake of King Lalawefu's demise─or the King of Springs, as he was known. Despite the success of his economic reforms, the tax increases he imposed did not sit well with his subjects. This, coupled with a prolonged sequence of untimely droughts, fomented unrest among the people and in time sparked violent unrest throughout the kingdom. Sil'dih was not alone in its want for water. Ul'dah, too, felt the effects of the droughts.The sultan at the time, Sasagan Ul Sisigan─ Ah! But perhaps you recognize the Ul name? The current sultana, Nanamo Ul Namo, represents the second Ul dynasty. She is Sasagan's distant descendant. Now...where was I? Ah, yes! Right, so, Sasagan ordered an attack on Sil'dih to claim the water resources discovered as a result of Lalawefu's flood control acts.

But the royalty and nobility of Sil'dih would not remain idle. They mobilized their nation in the face of this crisis, and the people fought with great tenacity against the Ul'dahn threat. The full strength of both nations met in battle, and the end result was an arduous protracted conflict. Though arguably more desirable than surrender, the ruling Sil'dihn elite took little pleasure in having succeeded in uniting the theretofore querulous citizenry to fight. For despite all they accomplished, every day spent waging war dragged the nation's financial affairs─which you will recall had only just been brought under control─back into the mire.

To bring an end to the long military deadlock, Sil'dih devised and set about implementing a perverse yet ambitious strategy. It sought to zombify the deceased among its army, that they might fight again. At first, it appeared to have worked. Yet at the height of hostilities, the Sil'dihns lost control over their necrotic creations. The undead turned on their masters, and before long the zombification had spread to a majority of the population. Ever knowing an opportunity when they saw one, the Ul'dahns grasped this turn of events to justify their war─now proclaiming it a crusade to send these zombies to Thal. After seeing to the extermination of all zombies outside the city, they then sealed the gates of Sil'dih, entrapping both the living and dead within.

And that, in brief, is a history of the fall of Sil'dih. I only pray that your feeble mind is able to retain it." - Erik

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Originally Posted by Alenore

War og the Mai had Nym, Amdapor and a third (yet) unnamed nation fighting each others. The thrid nation survivors ended creating Belah'dia after the war, which in turn made Ul'dah and Sil'dih after.
Sil'dih did not take part in the War of the Magi.

However, I'm pretty sure Sil'dih created Undead to fight Ul'dah.

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Sorry, got my timeline confused. You're right, Sil'dih did war against Ul'dah and that's where the undead came from.