Any word or whisper about a larger Blacklist capacity for 2.4? Seriously kind of needing one. RMT spam is getting worse by the day, and for everyone you Blist and report, 3 more /tell you. They're even sending friends requests now. In an attempt to clean up my list which is at 197/200 as I post this, I deleted one from the top, and the SOB spammed me not even a minute after. :mad:
Really...my list is chock-full of these stupid names, will we have a larger Blist soon? Please?!
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10-13-2014, 02:29 AMUrtear2.4 Blacklist
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10-13-2014, 02:31 AMDyne_Fellpool
I'm sorry. I didnt read a thing you said because I was trying to figure out if the woman in that picture is missing nipples or if its a flesh-colored top. (Its the latter)
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10-13-2014, 02:33 AMDyne_Fellpool
Ok Ok, I've read your post now.
Yes the Blacklist limit could be larger. Would be a nice change. It would also be nice if deleted characters were auto-removed from people's Blacklists. -
10-13-2014, 03:36 AMFyrebrand
I just want some better features/convenience in the Blacklist and Report functions -- such as having Blacklist auto-deny Friend requests and not force me to manually decline multiple times first.
I used to report tons of RMT spammers and bots early on, but to be honest I just can't be bothered anymore. It's such a chore. If I could right-click a line in chat and select "Report This Message," the game could easily collect all the relevant data like character name, server, time & date, map, chat channel it appeared in, and the content of their message. It could automatically be filed in an accurate, detailed, convenient format that they can reference in their own database and find easily. The only work a player should have to do is selecting the reason for the report (RMT, harassment, cheating, etc.), and optionally include a brief note about what was going on. It would be simpler for them. It would be simpler for us.
But instead, they expect paying customers to do the work for them, and give accurate details and correct spelling of things like "Brrgghhkkffss Jkwlwlghhgrr" (I know copy/paste is possible, but even that can be annoying when chat keeps moving). They should consider the fact that if a player is trying to file a report, it's because they have already had a negative experience in the game. The hassle involved in reporting incidents is a huge disincentive to actually going through with it. It's like an unspoken way for the company to say "We don't really want to hear about this. If you really want to complain, then you can waste your own time doing it." -
10-13-2014, 03:40 AMsaeedaisspecial
Because deleting older names on your blacklist is so hard right?
SE should increase the data size for every character to compensate for your laziness. -
10-13-2014, 04:56 AMPureEclipseOr maybe the people in charge of taking care of names being blacklisted shouldn't be so lazy?? I've been capped at 200 for a month now and remove 5 names a day from the top, this isn't deleted names its straight names that are still in existence, which would suggest that the people taking care of such things, aren't on top of it like they should be. I add like 20 a day....Quote:
Originally Posted by saeedaisspecial
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10-13-2014, 05:05 AMXakery
I had spoke to a GM about this briefly, some time ago. Once a character is reported for illegal actions and spam/harassment, it takes them 2-4 days to investigate the authenticity so the RMT can be removed.
Since talking to that GM, I removed all the rmt I had blisted and just turned off /tell notice sounds and just report the RMT (copy paste what they /t and have time stamp) and go about my day. Yes the friend request addition is annoying, but douche bag players are more of a nuisance. -
10-13-2014, 05:07 AMStouterTaruIt takes 2 seconds to delete each, multiplied by 200. That's a valid argument if there was an easy way to clear BL or if deleted characters were automatically removed.Quote:
Originally Posted by saeedaisspecial
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10-13-2014, 05:24 AMHakuroDKAuto-removal of deleted characters really should be a thing.Quote:
Originally Posted by StouterTaru
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10-13-2014, 05:34 AMsaeedaisspecialA delete all function would be useful, but still the solution is not to simply expand. Data expands to fill the space available for storage. Meaning to the types of people who ask for these sorts of things, those who are too lazy to do a little housekeeping themselves, SE will never add enough storage.Quote:
Originally Posted by StouterTaru
What you're saying is a true, a delete all function or an automatic removal for deleted characters would be the optimal addition.
Not every character that is banned is deleted. This is not because SE isn't doing their job, it is so that if they make a mistake, such as banning a character that has been hacked or used without the owners permission, it is reversible. Generally if you are receiving RMT spam from a character it will have been banned within a few hours. There is no need to leave these characters on your black list for more than a day, if that.Quote:
Originally Posted by PureEclipse
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10-13-2014, 06:11 AMWinterSolstice
I can't remember how many times it has been said, and I'm sure it will be said many many times in the future.
"Deleted" means they were deleted, not banned. This is to protect those who have had their accounts stolen for whatever reason.
Once a RMT spam bot is reported, it takes <4 hours or so to be banned. At that point, you can take them off your blist. So, I'd say tomorrow when you log on, it's safe to delete every single one of the people on your b-list (besides players that earned a spot there for being annoying/etc). From then on, just blist RMT spam as you would, then take them off the next morning. That way, it takes only around a minute of your time. Sure, you can complain about it being tedious, but at that point you'd just be being tedious yourself. Please do research on these things before complaining about them. This has been known for a very long time.
So what would the point of enlarging the b-list be? The fit more bots in there because people are too lazy to take them off or maintain it at all? -
10-13-2014, 06:28 AMAlx789
I don't know how this looks on PC, on PS4 clearing blacklist due to overflow is a big problem with hundreds buttonpresses. I need a buttons "clear all", "clear selected" and i need two separate blacklists - for spammers and for bad players :E
First may be "clearall-ed", second - second is small. -
10-13-2014, 06:52 AMStouterTaru
It's become mostly pointless to blacklist the RMT since they put in the tell restrictions. What use is blacklisting someone who will only ever send you 0-2 more tells. When they would send you 5 in a 10 minute span, it was different.
Now all I use my blacklist for is shout/emote spammers and other annoying people. -
10-13-2014, 08:08 AMBucy
In 2.4 your blacklist will be managed by Mr. Reddington. The names won't be banned, but you can be sure that after a week, Mr. Kaplan will be hiding the bodies.
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10-13-2014, 08:13 AMApricoth
Why are you guys giving the OP a hard time on whether or not he/she can delete the names off of their list? It was a suggestion - don't be rude.
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10-13-2014, 08:20 AMLiiOne that has been posted several times before. A quick search would have found them and found the GM responses saying you can remove the rmt spammers from your blist as they get banned with in a day or so. Since rmts cant really spam you as fast as they used to, I don't even bother blisting. I never see the same one twice in a day now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Apricoth
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10-13-2014, 08:28 AMAlukahSame here, they only get annoying late night as there are not enough GMs around to silence them, but any other time of the day it's not worth to blacklist bots, spambots are the only bots that get banned timely here, when it's late night I just change to busy status.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lii
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10-14-2014, 07:16 AMApricothThat is fine and dandy - I am just speaking to the tone of responses to the OP.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lii
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10-14-2014, 09:22 AMSenfei
In EVE Online I remember being able to right-click on spammers and use a function like "Report as ISK-spammer" (ISK is that games gil).
It basically blacklisted the person and simultaniously sent a report to the GMs. What info was contained i'm not sure, but probably a log of the things they had posted in chat for X amount of time. Such a feature would be welcome in FF14. Also, ffs can we get rid of the ridiculously clunky and unneeded restrictions in the menus? I don't care if homeboy sent me a friend request, I want him blacklisted. NOW! -
10-14-2014, 11:21 AMAleczanI became unwilling to remove some of them RMT shouters / tellers because I used to remove them once and the tell came back again from the removed person, probably because one week wasn't long enough. So I just kept all blacklisted people on my blacklist. It has become a habit HAHAHA.Quote:
Originally Posted by saeedaisspecial
That's why it grew to 179/200 for me now. I try to delete the (deleted) character once in a while so I'm not really capped at 200/200. It would be nicer if we can select multiple persons and remove from blacklist at the same time, though.
Also, after a week of adding to blacklist (which, in my opinion, is a reasonable cool down time to remove from blacklist) sometimes I can't remember whether I blacklisted the person for RMT tell or not (nowadays they start using names that seem legit). I would hate to accidentally remove annoying people/emote spammer/rude people/verbal abusive people/etc. So, a separated list (one for RMT only, other for others) will also be a nice addition. -
10-14-2014, 11:56 AMsilentwindfr
they need to put the blacklist based on the account, often multiple character we did blacklist come from the same account :x
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10-14-2014, 12:08 PMLiiYou can clear your blist, all rmt spamers are gone with in hrs. I don't use mine anymore for rmt, just annoying people as I never get the same rmt twice.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aleczan
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10-14-2014, 12:47 PMAlistaire
Kill 2 birds with 1 stone: SE should make a seperate blacklist for "suspected RMT" then every player people in that list could be flagged like a report.
Then the actual "players I don't like list" should be fine @ 200 cap.
...and the "rmt blacklist" cap @ 10000. -
10-14-2014, 03:04 PMDarkihttp://lostremote.com/files/2013/07/...1.56.23-PM.pngQuote:
Originally Posted by Bucy
Why is it that i'm the only one who got this reference lol? And yes. SE please hire Mr. Reddington to get rid of the RMTs. -
10-14-2014, 03:28 PMAleczanThat's nice. Last time I remember not blacklisting a RMT who sent tell (which happened like probably 3 months ago) was when I went AFK for lunch, I came back to my PC with about 7 tells from the same person. By the time I got back, the person was already gone and I couldn't add them to my blacklist, though. It became a habit to blacklist RMT tells.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lii
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10-14-2014, 04:33 PMShadray
I'd like to see a "last online" sortable filter on the blacklist. Should be easy to see who it's safe to remove.
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10-14-2014, 04:38 PMAlistaireWouldn't that make it a stalk-list?Quote:
Originally Posted by Shadray
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10-14-2014, 04:50 PMShadrayNot sure I understand what you mean, sorry.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alistaire
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10-14-2014, 05:38 PMAleczan
Means it can be abused or exploited, like, you can randomly blacklist anyone without them accepting friend request, and that will allow you to peek at them whether they are online or not and when was their last online. I have no idea why a stalker would want to peek at such info, though, and also have no idea what's the benefit in that ><;;
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10-14-2014, 08:05 PMAegis
One of the benefits of being on Balmung: Character creation restrictions means we get fewer RMT.
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10-14-2014, 08:13 PMShadrayAhh I see, not sure how that would help a stalker any more than player search but if people are worried then it could count up in weeks, you'd only need a vague idea to know who it's safe to remove.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aleczan
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10-14-2014, 08:30 PMLyrinn
My blacklist is sitting at 0/200 and has been for months. You don't need to blacklist every single bot that /tells you, most of them delete or otherwise disappear within a few minutes. My policy is if I get a tell from the same bot 3 times, I blacklist, then remove the next day.
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10-14-2014, 11:31 PMLilliaAgreed, I don't really even block that many except the ones who do their advertisement twice in a min or the big posters with the stars that can fill a whole page up simply because I don't get that many that matters or overly fills my chat otherwise. I'm not saying RMT is good to have around (Every game will have some in my mentality though.) but I do think it has gotten a lot better than what it was originally.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lyrinn
At that time (Back in 2.0 people, for those who played back then around launch.) PS3 players were lucky if they could blacklist any RMT because the spam was really fast with no sending limit and we couldn't right click blacklist... so I do feel that least small methods were taken since then to reduce some of the annoyance.
Edit: I hope no one takes this post as me saying it's fine we got RMT! let the few run around wild! Because that is not what I suggest as I also don't see harm in any improvements being made from time to time with security management of the RMTs.