LotA bone dragon

so, I take a patch or two off(april or so) to play other games, come back, and groups are taking bone dragon to the wall at the start of the fight.

this doesn't seem to be working. why do they do this when before it was so easy to just tank it in the mid and handle the fight normally?

Things must be different on your server. On mine, that's how it has always been. I've seen it tanked in the middle, maybe twice, ever. Since Implementation.

I never really do premades so it was never really a matter of which server.

so what's the reasoning behind this strat? because the randoms are failing at it HARD.

Mainly to just keep that big conal fear contained. Same reason anything with a wide, long range conal attack is generally tanked against a wall.

I figured as much. weird that it never came up for so long but I was always stuck healing anyway.

When the dragon is against a wall and everyone takes the platinals to one to each row, most of their time running to dragon is through the goop, sucks for melees. But, if you stack most of them in a long line behind the dragon, like a conveyer belt, it makes things a little easier and they will still be too far away from each other to get the run boost.

The cone can be silenced. It's better to tank it in the middle so melee can do their thing. This is how my data center has always done it. Originally I was part of the Primal data center (like you) and they always pulled to the wall. There was a discussion thread about it a few months after I transferred from someone expressing the same confusion. Conclusion of the thread is that primal data center is just weird.

I play on Shiva (Chaos data center, if I recall correctly) and back in the days when LotA was still run, it's always been tanked against a wall (usually all the way to the north) and that's never been an issue. I fail to see how Melees can't do their thing with this strat, as I've never had any issues in there.

Aether datacenter always did it in middle. Not sure why people would go all the trouble to tank it to the wall when the entire arena yells at you to tank it in middle.

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Originally Posted by Kuwagami

Aether datacenter always did it in middle. Not sure why people would go all the trouble to tank it to the wall when the entire arena yells at you to tank it in middle.

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- no need to watch for the conal attack
- longer distance between adds and dragon (depending on where you place those adds obviously)

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Originally Posted by Vodomir

- no need to watch for the conal attack
- longer distance between adds and dragon (depending on where you place those adds obviously)

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- it's not that much of a trouble. You can silence it or eat it depending on team's reactivity
- melee will love these adds in the pool


I see the point, but it really seems much more trouble compared to the advantages

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Originally Posted by Kuwagami

- it's not that much of a trouble. You can silence it or eat it depending on team's reactivity
- melee will love these adds in the pool


I see the point, but it really seems much more trouble compared to the advantages

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I'd say each tactic got its own up-and downsides. From my experience having adds in the pool isn't that much of a trouble either. Guess it all boils down to what your alliance can handle with more ease.

From Aether data center here too, and yea, we always tank BD in middle. It's so much easier on melee and healers.

Don't really understand issue with cone though, as long as tank holds onto aggro, everyone can avoid aoe cone by staying on entrance half of room, do other data center have worse cases of voke trolls?

As for killing skeletons, pretty much every alliance gets their own slice of the pie, focuses down skeletons in their section, then helps other alliances with theirs. On good runs, most skeletons wont even make it past second raised section of each spoke.

Also, with everyone staying on entrance half of room for practically whole fight, everyone is close together and makes healing a lot easier.

Exactly Gralna. Dragon pointed North, everyone stay on entrance half of room, no worries about cone. Don't tank in front of the dragon head, scoot in so you are more at the cone ape tip. Much smaller ate to sidestep there to avoid the cone that way out in front of the dragon head.

Also, it makes a tank's job easier in the eyes if you can give them the East/West platforms alone. This way they are in reach of all 3 eye spawn spots on that side of the room without having to drag an eye somewhere having to try to grab another eye. All ranged on the SE, SW and S platforms. Makes it a lot easier than the tank trying to grab an eye to a platform already populated, or, trying to pull an eye from the second row and dragging the eye through a group.

Middle is best if everyone is handling mechanics. You radiate the skelitons and everyone takes them out.
Wall is bests if only a few are and everyone else is too busy having a "weapon" measuring contest to care. You conveyor belt them and a single ranged can solo them all while the herd packs around the dragon till it is targetable again.

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Originally Posted by Gralna

Don't really understand issue with cone though, as long as tank holds onto aggro, everyone can avoid aoe cone by staying on entrance half of room, do other data center have worse cases of voke trolls?

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Primal. Tried tanking in the center and got "voke trolled" inch by inch until it was at the wall :P People can be stubborn *shrug*

I think the cynical and probably mot realistic response for wall tanking is that center is best if people know what they're doing, and in my experience it's best to never count on that (I'm on Primal, iirc). Same reason people wait for the enrage on T2; sure, it's doable, but I wouldn't trust most of the people I encounter in duty finder to tell their head from their hindquarter, let alone manage a fight.