Trading items to myself : Mission Impossible

So it's 2014, it's been three years since FFXIV's initial release and more than a year since it's re-release. Yet for some reason after THREE YEARS of begging and pleading SE has decided that being able to trade your own items to your own alternate characters, a feature which literally every other mmo in existence including SE's own previous title has, is still so much of a hassle to implement or a hindrance to RMT or whatever bs excuse is the most recent, that the extreme inconvenience it causes everyone else is justified.

So please, for the 1000th time in the last three years, PLEASE implement some way of trading items to yourself.

Sincerely,
An honest player tired of being punished for things I take no part in and have no control over.

I feel exactly the same way considering I had to trade items to my other characters because of space limitations from 1.0...it was a tedious task at best that required strategic logins and log outs...but best reason I can come up with as to why this feature hasn't been implemented is those of us who want it aren't hardcore enough neither casual enough...so its low priority...
I continue to hope.

There is a tedious way to do it, currently.

1- Log in your alt, go to some one-man instance (class quest, whatever), then log off inside said instance.
2- Log in your main char, invite your alt to your friend list.
3- Log in your alt and accept said invite.
4- Profit.


I know there should be a normal way to do it, without tricks like this. But, I just wanted to note that doing what you request is already possible, in case you didn't know it.

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Originally Posted by Blaon

There is a tedious way to do it, currently.

1- Log in your alt, go to some one-man instance (class quest, whatever), then log off inside said instance.
2- Log in your main char, invite your alt to your friend list.
3- Log in your alt and accept said invite.
4- Profit.


I know there should be a normal way to do it, without tricks like this. But, I just wanted to note that doing what you request is already possible, in case you didn't know it.

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Sadly all my classes are 50 and all my story quests are done, otherwise I would. That being said, it shouldn't be this hard in the first place.

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Originally Posted by RaniKsar

That was patched a few months ago if I remember correctly...

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Well I guess I wouldn't. xD

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Originally Posted by Blaon

There is a tedious way to do it, currently.

1- Log in your alt, go to some one-man instance (class quest, whatever), then log off inside said instance.
2- Log in your main char, invite your alt to your friend list.
3- Log in your alt and accept said invite.
4- Profit.

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That was patched a few months ago if I remember correctly...

Interesting concept...but we should not have to go through such lengths, considering how modern this game is...

I am on the same boat bemoaning this. I hate bugging other people to help me trade between characters. It's highly irritating. EverQuest II allows you to share bank space between your multiple characters - that is there is a middle spot that you put items/money in that your other characters have access to. No friending oneself needed.

This game is highly against alt characters as it is. My personal house for example isn't even shared between my alts. Would need to buy another house for the alt character, which is pretty stupid. There's not really even a reason to play alt characters other than for bag space or trying out other races/genders, but with those we could instead just buy more retainers or use fantasia.

As an alt'o'holic I feel a bit confused with this game's concept on alt characters. (*cough* Used to have 20 characters in LotRO *cough*).

Yea, fairly disappointed in devs stance on alts. Was a hardcore DAoCer and while they didn't have shared banking (or even a mail system), your house was tied to your account and houses could have anywhere from 400-1600 slots of public storage(with permission settings).

and I'm a chronic altaholic too, had 30 characters in DAoC, with 26 of them being max lvl and geared :p

I agree; SE loves to "throw the baby out with the bathwater" so to speak, every chance they get.

I ended up making a Free Company for myself and all my alts, and I use the FC safe to exchange items between them.

Next you'll probably want acheivements to be account-wide rather than per character, as well as keybinds, hotbar placement, etc.

I can trade items to myself just fine. However, I have two accounts. lol

if you want to trade with yourself and you don't care about being in a big free company, start your own free company and have a person invite your alt or alts to said free company

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Originally Posted by ikeyike420

if you want to trade with yourself and you don't care about being in a big free company, start your own free company and have a person invite your alt or alts to said free company

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They probably want to trade untradable items too, because in those "other MMORPGs" shared bank accounts usually allow doing such.

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Originally Posted by coldreactive

They probably want to trade untradable items too, because in those "other MMORPGs" shared bank accounts usually allow doing such.

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Actually, believe it or not, its because I really like the free company I'm in and I don't want to give my FC mates up just to be able to trade items to myself like I can in every other game I've ever played, including FFXI.

Then ask your FC if you can have access to one of the chest pages to transfer stuff between characters. I do it all the time, there could be several easier ways to move stuff around, but it works out fine.

agree with op 100%

What exactly is the point of alts in this game?

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Originally Posted by kidvideo

What exactly is the point of alts in this game?

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Weekly lockouts.

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Originally Posted by kidvideo

What exactly is the point of alts in this game?

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The things I have used/currently use mine for:
-Retainer storage
-Retainer ventures
-Retainer sell spots
-GC seal dailies
-Oaknot dailies
-Housing (extra garden)
-Gathering (multiple chances at grade 3 soil each game day)
-Allied seal farming (12 seals for less than 10 minutes a day, used for choco dye seeds)

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Originally Posted by StouterTaru

The things I have used/currently use mine for:

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ugh... inventory management between 4 retainers is enough to deal with. I can't imagine doing it across alts. Nor trying to reap the benefits dailies by converting untradable currencies into mats... more power to you if that's your thing.

If your FC lead is polite enough, you could have him invite your alt so you can put things on the FC chest and have your alt take them out. That's what I do nowadays.

Before that, I'd put items on sale for 1 gil, then quickly log on my alt to buy it. Was anticipated by another player only once, and he was kind enough to return the item to my alt (and as a way to thank him for his good heart, I crafted another of the same item for him for free).

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Originally Posted by StouterTaru

The things I have used/currently use mine for:
-Housing (extra garden)

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With how limited housing wards are, I feel kinda bad knowing there are some belonging to the same player...

I don't currently do anything on alts because of the inability to easily transfer stuff back and forth. If I could, I would absolutely make alts for some classes, just so that my armory chest would be less cluttered & annoying (especially the Ring tab). Don't even care that I'd have to re-level DoL, I'd do it.

Also, desynthesis.

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Originally Posted by kidvideo

ugh... inventory management between 4 retainers is enough to deal with. I can't imagine doing it across alts. Nor trying to reap the benefits dailies by converting untradable currencies into mats... more power to you if that's your thing.

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I have my main plus 3 mules, each with 3 retainers. Inventory management is simple:
-common crafting mats/materia on main
-fish/mob drops on 1st (3x marauder retainer)
-botany stuff on 2nd (3x botany retainer)
-mining stuff on 3rd (3x miner retainer)

I only use one retainer per alt, and autosort for easy finding of junk

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Originally Posted by kidvideo

What exactly is the point of alts in this game?

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I created multiple characters during 1.0 to store and sell all the stuff I had accumulated in the game...it was risky way to do it, but the game was pretty much slow by that time and now in ARR all my stuff was scattered across my other characters...would like to do some clean up.

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Originally Posted by Allistar

I created multiple characters during 1.0 to store and sell all the stuff I had accumulated in the game...it was risky way to do it, but the game was pretty much slow by that time and now in ARR all my stuff was scattered across my other characters...would like to do some clean up.

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You realize you necroed a thread from September 2014 right?

Let's be honest here guys, the real reason they don't want to allow this is because then nobody would pay $4/month for the 2 extra retainers. I don't believe for one second that this prevents or hinders RMT in any way since RMT use multiple accounts anyways.

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Originally Posted by Bluevann

With how limited housing wards are, I feel kinda bad knowing there are some belonging to the same player...

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I know someone on Balmung who owns three houses across their account...

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Originally Posted by DoctorPepper

Let's be honest here guys, the real reason they don't want to allow this is because then nobody would pay $4/month for the 2 extra retainers. I don't believe for one second that this prevents or hinders RMT in any way since RMT use multiple accounts anyways.

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As I've said numerous times and will continue to say: It's not a direct way to combat RMT, it's a consequence.
You can only send mail to people on your friends list (this is to prevent mail spam, which is a very real issue with RMTers and IS actually working)
You cannot send friend invites to offline players (Another issue. Can you imagine how many friend requests from RMTers we would have to deal with if this wasn't the case?)
Therefore, since you can't log in 2 characters from the same account in at once (there's a whole host of reasons why they do this and this has been a thing since before even FFXI) you can't friend yourself, and you can't send mail to yourself.
Since making it so you could would require effort and the payoff is minimal at best (the majority of plays don't actually make judicious use of alts compared to other games. There is no **PRACTICAL** reason to have more than 3 anyway. RPers need not apply for that.) they've opted to simply not directly fix it.
Call it "laziness" but I can say with absolute certainty that this is NOT the only game that prevents this by a long shot.

Hey now, we don't want to give any power to the RMT. Like, let's say, the power to instantly spam everyone on the entire server. Or the power to avoid blacklisting by creating unlimited characters on one account within a short span of time. Or the power to avoid account termination for solid month stretches, allowing time to generate a large profit per account. One man should not have all that power.

But seriously, it would be cool if we had maybe one retainer that would be shared on account, much like other games have a bank tab that is shared. Maybe the shared retainer would be unlocked after ONE character on the account had reached level 50 and finished the main quest, which would be a reasonable hurdle to stop the most blatant RMT abuse.

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Originally Posted by kyuven

You can only send mail to people on your friends list (this is to prevent mail spam, which is a very real issue with RMTers and IS actually working)
You cannot send friend invites to offline players (Another issue. Can you imagine how many friend requests from RMTers we would have to deal with if this wasn't the case?)

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Neither of which has anything to do with alts on your own account. They could have the rule be that Friends and alts can send you mail, or that your alts are automatically included on your Friends list, or any of probably dozens of other possibilities, none of which would allow RMTs to send you anything unless those RMTs were alts on your own account. Transfers within a single account are completely different than transfers between accounts and don't involve any of the same RMT issues. It's not a request to freely transfer items to anyone and everyone. It's specifically a request to be able to freely tranfer items between our own alts.

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Originally Posted by Niwashi

Neither of which has anything to do with alts on your own account. They could have the rule be that Friends and alts can send you mail, or that your alts are automatically included on your Friends list, or any of probably dozens of other possibilities, none of which would allow RMTs to send you anything unless those RMTs were alts on your own account. Transfers within a single account are completely different than transfers between accounts and don't involve any of the same RMT issues. It's not a request to freely transfer items to anyone and everyone. It's specifically a request to be able to freely tranfer items between our own alts.

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Exactly, but as soon as they allowed that people would spend $2/month for 8 characters (16 retainers) instead of $2/month for EACH retainer. They're not stupid, they know people don't have enough space and a lot are willing to drop an extra $4/month for that space.