Make it 1 House per Account

Per server. character-shared.

Also, since Personal Housing has to compete with FC Housing...

Permit us to be co-owners of a house with our friends.

EDIT: fair point about the devaluing of Alt's & RP purposes... however this wouldn't be an issue if SE had implemented Instanced Personal Housing instead... perhaps simply make Houses able to be shared between Alt's so fewer people feel the need to buy multiple homes, along with the above suggestion (co-owners). Or cap at 3.

Support this, only way I think it should not apply is if the person is an FC leader since I'm not sure if that would count as one they own?

Well the problem with that is an account can have characters on multiple servers.

The problem at its core is that the ward system is far too limiting on the amount of players that can simply have them. Even if free companies where to never buy another house for some reason, there's hardly enough available plots for one percent of the playerbase by the time 2.4 comes out.

It's too late for this. I would have supported it, though.

I should've stated it as one per server across all characters & shared.

Good point.

Also, I don't think "too late" should be a valid excuse for SE.

Surely, they have ways of rolling back houses & fixing this mess they created.

They just won't which' sad.

I have characters in different servers. How would that work?

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Originally Posted by Gramul

Well the problem with that is an account can have characters on multiple servers.

The problem at its core is that the ward system is far too limiting on the amount of players that can simply have them. Even if free companies where to never buy another house for some reason, there's hardly enough available plots for one percent of the playerbase by the time 2.4 comes out.

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Err. 1 house per person per server, characters on like-servers share. The ward system *shouldn't* be limited; Lord of the Rings Online does something extremely similar and it works perfectly.

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Originally Posted by Theresa

I have characters in different servers. How would that work?

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so you would be able to get 1 plot on every server that you have a Lv 50 character.

There is people who take multiple house just for gardening ?

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Originally Posted by TheRogueX

The ward system *shouldn't* be limited; Lord of the Rings Online does something extremely similar and it works perfectly.

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I agree, but there's clearly something wrong if they can't provide us with ample room and have to slowly leak them out while STILL competing with Free Companies. Doubling it won't be enough.
This is something that should have been considered when they designed it in the first place. It's a feature that a lot of people really want, they should have been sure that the system could handle having room for people, or developed a new one that their weird servers can handle. Just slapping them together with FCs and giving us a few more wards seems like a cheap and lazy approach. Having a hefty cost is alright, that's achievable (much as I would have liked to be warned ahead of time about the cost). But not having enough room is a block that can't be so easily dealt with.

So what exactly would this fix? I don't know of many people who have multiple 50s and have the money to buy even one house, much less two.

If anything it wouldn't do much. Those with multiple 50 characters (not just classes on one character) that could afford such on two characters are probably dual (multi) boxing and this would not affect them since they have multiple accounts. Remember a dual boxer earns twice the money from kills and quests and dungeons (if they can manage them), over a normal single account.

BUT...

That not the issue, I'd ask SE to upgrade their server and introduce more small houses only wards. or instanced houses for all I care.

I concur. Silly a single person can own multiple houses on a server. I've seen this happen & it's very harmful to the already limited amount of space.

I especially agree with "Friend Housing".

Don't agree with this. If someone can spend the time earning the gil, fair play to them. Although I am not sure if a player can buy multiple houses on a single character. I would agree to a one house per character. Why should someone be locked out of content on a second character just because they accessed it on the first?

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Originally Posted by Barboron

Don't agree with this. If someone can spend the time earning the gil, fair play to them. Although I am not sure if a player can buy multiple houses on a single character. I would agree to a one house per character. Why should someone be locked out of content on a second character just because they accessed it on the first?

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I'm pretty sure what he's asking is they enable you to share your house with your Alt's on the same server, so they wouldn't really be locked out.

This just serves to help the limited space problems which' the greatest problem with Personal Housing I think.

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Originally Posted by Toodles

I'm pretty sure what he's asking is they enable you to share your house with your Alt's on the same server, so they wouldn't really be locked out.

This just serves to help the limited space problems which' the greatest problem with Personal Housing I think.

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All the same, it means that a person is limited to 1 garden then should they have 2 characters on the same server if this same person could afford a small house on both characters. Although it's not just about gardening, there is the vanity side, or even role-playing among other possible reasons.

Absolutely dislike this. I'd rather see the problem with ward space addressed than see people limited as to whether or not separate characters have separate houses. The RP community in this game IS pretty large, and there are valid reasons there - besides practical applications like gardening access - for wanting more than one house. If they give us enough housing space for everyone, including alts, there's really no concern about how many someone has. I mean, what if someone just wants to decorate multiple houses? Why shouldn't they be able to? So long as it's one per character, I see no problem with it. We just need more wards, ESPECIALLY on the high-population servers.

If you limit players to 1 personal house per account what would happen to players, like me, with multiple houses have happen to them :S? I don't want my hard earned gil to be taken :(

Some players are just buying up houses then selling them. I don't know how unless they form a fc invite you in it and then transfer ownership to you. But they are sure doing it. Meaning what's to stop someone or a group of ppl buying up lots at 5 mil and then trying to sell them for 20mil cause no lots available? I support 1 house per account per server. Meaning up to 8 characters on one server can share the same house. I too play lotro and that's how it is there and it does in fact work. Nobody should be able to buy more than one house while we have such a huge shortage.

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Originally Posted by FruityTootie

If you limit players to 1 personal house per account what would happen to players, like me, with multiple houses have happen to them :S? I don't want my hard earned gil to be taken :(

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Most likely you'll get the gil you spent on the extra house back.

Besides why would a player want more than 1 house beyond spamming gardening a mass production level?

The original plan was 1 Housing per character to begin with and 1 Housing per FC.

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Originally Posted by Kaethra

So what exactly would this fix? I don't know of many people who have multiple 50s and have the money to buy even one house, much less two.

If anything it wouldn't do much. Those with multiple 50 characters (not just classes on one character) that could afford such on two characters are probably dual (multi) boxing and this would not affect them since they have multiple accounts. Remember a dual boxer earns twice the money from kills and quests and dungeons (if they can manage them), over a normal single account.

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Bit of a late reply to this, but that's definitely an erroneous assumption, haha. Just because it's possible and efficient to level all jobs on one character definitely doesn't mean that everyone prefers to do it. I know at least four members of my FC have the full 8 characters on our accounts, while another is sitting at 6 or 7, and plenty of others have several alts as well. You'd be surprised how many people just prefer to have some variation.

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Originally Posted by EdwinLi

Most likely you'll get the gil you spent on the extra house back.

Besides why would a player want more than 1 house beyond spamming gardening a mass production level?

The original plan was 1 Housing per character to begin with and 1 Housing per FC.

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I have multiple characters with different styles :3

Regardless, it's rather easy to make money in this game and could have bought a medium instead of multiple smalls, those complaining that only the rich were able to buy houses are just lazy.

Those complaining about space, deal with it, you should have been online when the servers were up if you wanted the house. First come first served.

Was it ever stated that the housing being doubled in 2.4 was the end of it? Or are they going to continue adding more? The problem seems less about restricting people from buying more than one than it is about there being enough for everyone to even be able to buy.

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Originally Posted by TheRogueX

The ward system *shouldn't* be limited; Lord of the Rings Online does something extremely similar and it works perfectly.

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I suspect its all the individual outdoor customizations that we have causing problems. Lotro only needs to track two data points for each lot: state of ownership and who owns it. FFXIV needs to track far more in addition to those two data points: windows, walls, doors, roof, stables, gardens and all the outdoor furniture.

How about no. You should be able to buy as many houses you can afford. We all have equal advantage to get a house.

If you want to buy multiple houses you still have to go through the trouble of leveling up another character that is a big road block right there.

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Bit of a late reply to this, but that's definitely an erroneous assumption, haha. Just because it's possible and efficient to level all jobs on one character definitely doesn't mean that everyone prefers to do it. I know at least four members of my FC have the full 8 characters on our accounts, while another is sitting at 6 or 7, and plenty of others have several alts as well. You'd be surprised how many people just prefer to have some variation.

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I think you misunderstood me.

I'm talking about dual boxers. Those with multiple accounts played at the same time (aka they play their own groups by controlling 2-4 characters). It doesn't have anything to do with single or multiple characters.

Can't believe I'm saying this but I agree with OP to a point. In a perfect world I would say it's free game but this isn't a perfect world and we have limited server space for housing it seems. Both FCs and players need to be limited to one house per server for the greater good.

I would just be happy if personal housing had a cross-character bank. But of course Squeenix basically has given the finger to anyone who wants to have more than one character.... despite allowing us to pay for that "privilege."

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Originally Posted by EdwinLi

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The original plan was 1 Housing per character to begin with and 1 Housing per FC.

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They drop the ball on everything do they...

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Originally Posted by Ravno

There is people who take multiple house just for gardening ?

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http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...=1#post2459709

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Originally Posted by HumsterMKX

They drop the ball on everything do they...

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They scrapped plenty of things through development.

One of the big things they scrapped for Housing is the Tower System they announced that would have gone with House. It was originally going to be the way that makes Personal and FC Housing Unique being that the Towers provided different character buffs depending if it was a Personal Housing for FC Housing.

FC Housing Towers were going to be based on DoL, DoH, and small FC member style buffs separate from the FC normal buffs while Personal Housing Towers were going to provide Stat buffs and other personal character based benefits. There was also going to be a limit on Tower placements being that small housing would have allowed the lowest amount of Towers while Mansions would allow the Most amount to prevent players from gaining too much benefits from the Tower System.

Due to "server limitations" this should have been implemented ages ago . They know the space is limited and from a game design perspective their goal should be to ensure less players are affected by this space issue

One house per server for a single account is enough to play that content. Agreed 100%.

Claiming to be allowed to own multiple houses is not for enjoying content but only for greedy purpose, as multiple gardening and why not, to lol in face of all people locked out. Locking to one house per server does not locks you out the content, but allow that content to more players. Spend your Gil elsewhere.

But, this is like a religious war, both sides wants keep their reasons and no one will want change is opinion. It is all in hands of SE.

One party wants housing locked to one per server, the other party wants all as is and allowed to buy as many houses they want if have the Gil and land is free. Which one, SE?

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Originally Posted by FruityTootie

I have multiple characters with different styles :3

Regardless, it's rather easy to make money in this game and could have bought a medium instead of multiple smalls, those complaining that only the rich were able to buy houses are just lazy.

Those complaining about space, deal with it, you should have been online when the servers were up if you wanted the house. First come first served.

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Small houses aren't too bad, but medium houses shouldn't cost 10x as much... Thanks to that we get selfish people like you buying multiple lots making the space issue even worse.

I hope no one takes your opinion seriously, it seems like someone defending their selfishness

Anyone person/FC that buys a house is being selfish because that means nobody else can buy that plot. Anyone that rolls on any dungeon drop is being selfish.

I have no problem with only being allowed one personal house, if they add in a personal chest item that works like the company chest, and allow me to sell my plots of land. Until then, I'm gonna hold onto both my houses, and get a couple more in the near future.

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http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...=1#post2459709

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Some of us require multiple houses due to the restrictions SE has placed on us. For example gardening. We have run a 450-500 member fc since early release. We provide everything we can for our members since SE has restricted so much. So having 500 members who could not have personal houses and gardens we grow for them what majority of members require. lately for example food dye and feeding foods for chocobo as well as thavnarian onions. Foods for for that many people rquire a lot of space so we make alt guilds and raise our alt fc's and grow extra for them there. I myself have 8 houses 2 of them large. To be honest its not our fault se made it so restricted!! The personal housing was supposed to be released within a month after official release. then kept being pushed back due to server in inadequacies and under-estimating its player base. Once it did see how many players they had they tried to do a little at a time to save themselves money as a business instead of biting the bullet and accommodating the players wants and needs.

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Originally Posted by Spetsnaz

Small houses aren't too bad, but medium houses shouldn't cost 10x as much... Thanks to that we get selfish people like you buying multiple lots making the space issue even worse.

I hope no one takes your opinion seriously, it seems like someone defending their selfishness

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Not to mention their space comment... Yeah sure let me tell my boss I can't come in due to trying to buy a personal house.

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Originally Posted by dcdistro

Some of us require multiple houses due to the restrictions SE has placed on us. For example gardening. We have run a 450-500 member fc since early release. We provide everything we can for our members since SE has restricted so much. So having 500 members who could not have personal houses and gardens we grow for them what majority of members require. lately for example food dye and feeding foods for chocobo as well as thavnarian onions. Foods for for that many people rquire a lot of space so we make alt guilds and raise our alt fc's and grow extra for them there. I myself have 8 houses 2 of them large. To be honest its not our fault se made it so restricted!! The personal housing was supposed to be released within a month after official release. then kept being pushed back due to server in inadequacies and under-estimating its player base. Once it did see how many players they had they tried to do a little at a time to save themselves money as a business instead of biting the bullet and accommodating the players wants and needs.

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Well this issue should focus more on the availability of gardening instead of the limit on houses. Indoor planter suggest.

Sad day :( seems a bunch of wealthy will buy up the new wards on their alts again