The way housing should be

• Prices ranging from 800k to 10million
• Separate personal housing areas from Free Companies
• Personalized options for house styles and landscaping
• Varied locations including Costa Del Sol and Little Solace
• Armoire, Crystal Bell, etc. access
• Retainers appear as NPCs when not venturing
• Expandable options including more rooms and stories

Personal housing should be truly personal. Right now it is not personal since there is nothing to differentiate it from FC Housing. What we have currently is not what was promised nor is it what anyone was expecting. Please implement real Personal housing.

I really love all of these ideas. It makes me really sad that this isn't what we got. :(

According to SE the only way something like that would work (Server constraints) is if it's instanced on demand per player like the inn rooms (IE, not forever instanced like the current neighborhoods) - which for some reason SE refuses to do.

If it's instanced on demand things like having housing in a variety of places could be a reality, less limiting than the current neighborhood structure.

They should also consider Personal Apartments for players who want a Personal customizable home (Separate from their FC Housing apartments) but can't afford personal Housing nor not enough room for more player housing.

As of now one of the greatest limits for housing is the Limited amount of space for player housing. Due to this even with cheaper price that all players can obtain a Personal House there is not enough land for all players to buy their own house.

With a Personal Apartment they can obtain somthing equel to a Small House but since it is a personal Apartment it will be limited to in door Housing items.

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Originally Posted by EdwinLi

They should also consider Personal Apartments.

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I posted a thread about this yesterday.
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...ive-To-Housing

I can't bring myself to buy personal housing even knowing how much I want it.

FFXI for 11 years, and I take 1-3 months off every year from MMOing. And well losing my house (gil) because I don't log in is a deal breaker.

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Originally Posted by WhiteGarden

• Prices ranging from 800k to 10million
• Separate personal housing areas from Free Companies
• Personalized options for house styles and landscaping
• Varied locations including Costa Del Sol and Little Solace
• Armoire, Crystal Bell, etc. access
• Retainers appear as NPCs when not venturing
• Expandable options including more rooms and stories

Personal housing should be truly personal. Right now it is not personal since there is nothing to differentiate it from FC Housing. What we have currently is not what was promised nor is it what anyone was expecting. Please implement real Personal housing.

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I want all of the above! Please include a Starlight Celebration-y village as a location as well.

The bottom line is, I refuse to compete with 7500 other server mates for pretend land, only to hear "they are all sold out". It's PRETEND LAND, if it sells out you make more! You don't tell us "its sold out". that's just wrong...don't have us waiting years for something and then pull this half assed "we ran out" crap. you can't run out of imaginary land!

Both options would be perfect. Have the cheap MOG house all instanced for the masses as well as current housing for those who want and are willing to pay for more.

I don't mind the wards existing as they are as an option. It would be nice if they added a single house with a yard within a small instanced zone for those whom want something more secluded, accessible, and customizable.There's a walkway to nowhere in each of the wards, could use that as the jumping off point for this. They should also add the ability to rent a permanent room from the inn keeps in each town to just have an instanced room without having to be part of an FC. Said room should have a small balcony for a few small pieces of outdoor furnishings and a small garden plot at a price any player could afford. I think these options together would please most people give or take details.
Also, allow co-ownership for all properties.
That would be my dream come true.

Funny how they didn't instance one of the few things a lot of players wouldn't mind being instanced. Instead we get a ton of instanced battle content and semi open world housing. I'm only half serious I guess, just a stupid thought that crossed my mind.

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Originally Posted by EdwinLi

With a Personal Apartment they can obtain somthing equel to a Small House but since it is a personal Apartment it will be limited to in door Housing items.

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Why restrict it to this? Why not an instanced plot off in a secluded glade, on a remote island, amidst the dunes, etc. with a full lot and the ability to use outdoor furnishings too?
There's no reason an instance would have to be indoor only. And if its an instance for just one player, there's also no reason the indoor and outdoor bits have to be separate instances.

There's no reason it should be half-assed at this point.

Or SE can look at how NcSoft did AION's set up which they kinda have started a bit

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Originally Posted by Dark-Saviour

Why restrict it to this? Why not an instanced plot off in a secluded glade, on a remote island, amidst the dunes, etc. with a full lot and the ability to use outdoor furnishings too?
There's no reason an instance would have to be indoor only. And if its an instance for just one player, there's also no reason the indoor and outdoor bits have to be separate instances.

There's no reason it should be half-assed at this point.

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It is for lower gil revenue players. A Personal Apartment is a apartment after all which is more for indoor things and not known for out door stuff. However, a balcony can also be added for the Apartment building for out door stuff but since it is a apartment build the balcony will not be big as the Housing yards.

A Private Island can also be added in the game but the price will need to balance out considering that it is a Private Island for the player that owns the island only.

The way housing should be can be seen by traveling 15 years back in time and seeing FFXI at launch. It was that simple, and Squenix got it right 15 years ago.

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Originally Posted by Illya

The way housing should be can be seen by traveling 15 years back in time and seeing FFXI at launch. It was that simple, and Squenix got it right 15 years ago.

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They wanted to do something different here, and that is give us a neighborhood, rather than a closed off box. I really cannot fault them for that, it's a really nice idea. They've just failed to realize that concept in a workable manner, that's the only problem here.

Honestly; just work on a new version of the three Inn rooms with a balcony that can fit a few things (including a rail plant pot which is equal to a small garden plot). We'd all have a nice room we can customize, with a nice view, in an easily reached location, with a garden equivalent. This is exactly what they should have been working on since implementing Private Rooms, instead of locking Private Rooms behind people who already have a house.

Having housing wards and what is effectively a Mog House is really the best solution here. Housing wards were a nice idea, but it just isn't going to fulfill the demand, unless they have some miracle planned, they really need to start work on Private Inn Rooms. Some people might think that makes Private Rooms redundant, but I think the idea behind those is that it's technically part of your Company House.

Also, one other thing houses should be is fun. Once you've set up furniture they kinda stop being that... Hope the Golden Saucer gives us some new furniture and mini-games we can place in houses/rooms, having a Free Company based Triple Triad tournament would be pretty cool. An actually reason to play around in a house would be great. Gardening and Chocobo Raising are both done outside after all.

i think too that the inn room must be allowed, throught quest or other means, to get upgraded with a balcony and the capacity to decorate it.
even if i feel they more need to give us acces to the civilian quarter that exist in every city already and use it like a place where people can buy a condo with balcony. it's not different from the mog house, indeed it's instanced, but i'm tired of all the people that complaint about instanced stuff, when it allows everybody to share the same game with the same access to the whole content of the game.

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Originally Posted by Wobble

I posted a thread about this yesterday.
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...ive-To-Housing

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Same here.

Price is not the problem, the inability for all players to access this content IS.

So the rooms are expensive, if there was a way all or MOST players who put forth the effort could actually get a personal house none of us would have much to complain about. But, for most of us even if we had the 5-10 million gill for a small plot at the time of the patch, they were sold out before most of us were off work, let alone downloaded the patch.

We waited since launch, and THIS is the best they could come up with? What about Future FC's who want to buy land for their guild halls? Sucks to be them I guess right?

They pushed back 2.0 because they wanted it to be PERFECT, or as close to perfect as they could. They should have kept individual player housing on hold until they could deliver something that most players at least stood a chance of enjoying. Because that is the bottom line, most of us are sore out of luck.

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Now I'm confused. Weren't prices the reason people were complaining in the first place? Because they're not really affordable unless you're rich or with a big FC?

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Originally Posted by Seoulstar

Now I'm confused. Weren't prices the reason people were complaining in the first place? Because they're not really affordable unless you're rich or with a big FC?

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Prices are steep...but if price was the ONLY problem Seoulstar, everyone could still work towards getting one. The lack of availability is the bigger issue...as it doesn't matter how hard you work...you're not getting one because they are JUST not there. If they were cheaper, they'd just sell out faster.

the problem REALLY is the limited plots.

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Originally Posted by Seoulstar

Now I'm confused. Weren't prices the reason people were complaining in the first place? Because they're not really affordable unless you're rich or with a big FC?

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Both actually. Literally all they needed to do was add a Mog House an most people would be happy. Some might say well you have FC rooms for this. They have a LOT of restrictions and in my eyes isn't worth it.

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Originally Posted by Hayden

Prices are steep...but if price was the ONLY problem Seoulstar, everyone could still work towards getting one. The lack of availability is the bigger issue...as it doesn't matter how hard you work...you're not getting one because they are JUST not there. If they were cheaper, they'd just sell out faster.

the problem REALLY is the limited plots.

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Ty for actually clarifying that. Quite difficult to keep up with what's going on as of lately.

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Originally Posted by EdwinLi

It is for lower gil revenue players. A Personal Apartment is a apartment after all which is more for indoor things and not known for out door stuff. However, a balcony can also be added for the Apartment building for out door stuff but since it is a apartment build the balcony will not be big as the Housing yards.

A Private Island can also be added in the game but the price will need to balance out considering that it is a Private Island for the player that owns the island only.

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Why do we even need to apply real-world style cost differences here?
It could very easily be that one of the numerous NPCs I save gives me a piece of land out of gratitude (or whatever) if you need a lore-based way to justify it in-game.

Things shouldn't be designed around the current costs; the system as it currently exists never should have existed, and shouldn't be taken into account when implementing or pricing things as they should be, IMO.

I'm not upset about prices, it is nice to gain something with some effort. My problem is 500 fc members sharing the garden. I thought personal housing was going to fix the garden problem.

Nope ppl are still going to horde the FC gardens because of the lack of homes and/or gil to get one.