Augmented AF Gear.

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09-11-2014, 10:05 AM
Kalandros

Augmented AF Gear.

So I've been looking at this..

I augmented my summoner's horn and noticed I cannot Armoire it again.
Think this will be changed?

The next thing I was wondering.. is there a point other than glamour?
Do you think they will have some sort of further upgrade somewhere along the way?

Basically, do I augment all my AF gear or do I just augment those I wanna glamour?
09-11-2014, 10:12 AM
Gilthas

I'm pretty sure that they're only for glamours.

People were asking to be allowed to dye their AF, so SE added augments. People weren't asking for it to require expensive items though, lol.
09-11-2014, 10:21 AM
Galliano

I actually like the fact they were a bit of a challenge to obtain, it gave me something to work towards while I was bored and made me appreciate the end result more.
09-11-2014, 10:26 AM
DenariusJay

The hoops you have go through and the amount of gil spent to augment full AF gear is just crazy. I only did the the body for the monk because the monk body AF gear is the best looking gear for a monk IMO (besides saurian shirt which isn't too bad) it is abit rare and a quite an accomplishment if you do Augment full AF gear. Kudos to those people
09-11-2014, 10:42 AM
Brine_Gildchaff

A degree of challenge or work is fine. However, requiring 1150 myth tomes and 9 oaknots (or 45000 GC seals) for just one augment item, and requiring TWO such items for the pieces most people will want to have (other than the hat) is an absurd amount for what is in fact nothing but the ability to dye an item you already own. Hell, I could make a "dyeable Battlemage Robe", aka Cashmere Robe of Casting, for less than that requires, and the latter is actually usable in battle because it's an i90 HQ-able crafted gear, able to be made superior to Allagan gear and even to weathered soldiery or CT gear.
And it doesn't help that literally the only ones who can make these things are alchemists, who already got the lion's share of primal weapons and the item literally every piece of LHS crafted 3* gear requires two of. I really hope Square rebalances things a bit, BSM/ARM/CRP have been getting seriously shafted lately, particularly BSM.
09-11-2014, 10:50 AM
Eggnook24

Personally, I think there will be an AF armor upgrade eventually to go along with the AF weapon, and this is just the start of it. Seems like quite a bit of trouble just to color an item no where near useful after 50.
09-11-2014, 11:09 AM
myahele

Hopefully we'll be able to color our i90 myth gear just like they allowed i70/darklight gear.
09-11-2014, 12:28 PM
Nep_Nep

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Originally Posted by myahele

Hopefully we'll be able to color our i90 myth gear just like they allowed i70/darklight gear.

This. I really want to color the myth Dragoon armor. The AF one is so..plain to me.
09-11-2014, 01:48 PM
Lemuria

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Originally Posted by myahele

Hopefully we'll be able to color our i90 myth gear just like they allowed i70/darklight gear.

Sure, just expect each augment item to cost over 5 million gil, and require thousands of soldiery tomes. Sadly, nothing SE adds for glamor is ever as easy as it should be.

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Originally Posted by Brine_Gildchaff

I really hope Square rebalances things a bit, BSM/ARM/CRP have been getting seriously shafted lately, particularly BSM.

Come now, Culinarian hasn't had much love in a long time either.
09-11-2014, 03:45 PM
Ilitsa

it took me about 2 days to fully upgrade my drg AF gear, best choice I've ever made tbh, the AF gear dyed Dalamud red looks beyond badass!
09-11-2014, 04:41 PM
Muzetta

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Originally Posted by Eggnook24

Personally, I think there will be an AF armor upgrade eventually to go along with the AF weapon, and this is just the start of it. Seems like quite a bit of trouble just to color an item no where near useful after 50.

And this right here is what I've been fearing right as they introduced the Augmented AF. Yes, we already knew SE was going a tad overboard with glamours, but it just seemed fishy to me. Definitely not gonna be surprised if our AF2 is going to be related to all this... *shiver*
09-11-2014, 05:25 PM
Felis

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Originally Posted by Eggnook24

Personally, I think there will be an AF armor upgrade eventually to go along with the AF weapon, and this is just the start of it. Seems like quite a bit of trouble just to color an item no where near useful after 50.

Complete new AF, no upgrades

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Originally Posted by Brine_Gildchaff

And it doesn't help that literally the only ones who can make these things are alchemists, who already got the lion's share of primal weapons and the item literally every piece of LHS crafted 3* gear requires two of. I really hope Square rebalances things a bit, BSM/ARM/CRP have been getting seriously shafted lately, particularly BSM.

Which primal weapons, except the books, need Alchemist?
09-11-2014, 05:44 PM
Adler

I will save allied seals for Twin Adder armor set and believe my elezen will look more badass than all those "augmented" people that have wasted tons of gil for simple glamour.
At least on Odin there are so many people with "glowing" armour, painted AF or wearing swimsuits that it really seems very lame already. Especially some of those swimsuits - fugly.
09-11-2014, 05:54 PM
Leeloo

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Originally Posted by Felis

Which primal weapons, except the books, need Alchemist?

All the new i95 Tremor(Titan) ones.
09-11-2014, 06:15 PM
Felis

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Originally Posted by Leeloo

All the new i95 Tremor(Titan) ones.

They are crafted weapons (where you need a mat from Titan), not primal weapons.
Primal weapons are weapons you get directly from Primals without a crafter in between.
09-11-2014, 06:24 PM
TheRogueX

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Originally Posted by Gilthas

People were asking to be allowed to dye their AF, so SE added augments. People weren't asking for it to require expensive items though, lol.

This. Proof being that they modified the Lightning Returns gear so that it can be dyed, and you don't have to spend a fortune to do so. The Augmented AF gear concept is stupid. Why it wasn't like dyeable LR gear or dyeable Darklight gear, who the hell knows. SE just seems to think that glamour stuff should be ridiculously hard to get, but actually usable gear should be easy. Such a backwards, stupid position.
09-11-2014, 06:32 PM
Canadane

Looking good is half the battle. I don't mind that it's expensive or difficult to create.
09-11-2014, 06:39 PM
myahele

With all those mats they could've atleast increased the stats to make it comparable to i90 -i95
09-11-2014, 06:44 PM
16bitBounty

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Originally Posted by DenariusJay

The hoops you have go through and the amount of gil spent to augment full AF gear is just crazy. I only did the the body for the monk because the monk body AF gear is the best looking gear for a monk IMO (besides saurian shirt which isn't too bad) it is abit rare and a quite an accomplishment if you do Augment full AF gear. Kudos to those people

Don't forget those sweet temple gloves.
09-11-2014, 06:48 PM
subteraneanbird

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Originally Posted by Adler

I will save allied seals for Twin Adder armor set and believe my elezen will look more badass than all those "augmented" people that have wasted tons of gil for simple glamour.
At least on Odin there are so many people with "glowing" armour, painted AF or wearing swimsuits that it really seems very lame already. Especially some of those swimsuits - fugly.

Gil is easier to get and less useful than Allied Seals. If anyone is being "wasteful" it would be you. Generally a good idea to not judge others for choosing to do something they'd like to do when it has zero impact on yourself.
09-11-2014, 11:05 PM
Brine_Gildchaff

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Originally Posted by Felis

They are crafted weapons (where you need a mat from Titan), not primal weapons.
Primal weapons are weapons you get directly from Primals without a crafter in between.

I was talking specifically about the i95 crafted primal weapons, the ones you make from the EX rare drop and 3 of that primal's demimateria. Alchemist makes ALL of Titan's i95 weapons, as well as the books for the other three.