What notorious baddies will we face in Coil 3?

I'm sure one will be story related, but the other three can be classic FF villains just like Rafflesia and ADS (he's totally the computer from FFII/FFIV).

I'd like to face Cerberus, Shinryu, and a fight similar to T4 with legions of the Undead where Lich spawns at the end :)

Cerberus will be in the world of Darkness ( CT part 3 ), Shinryu is too important to be a mid boss in the coil and so is Lich. ( unless they put all the fours fiends in the coil )

end boss of coil 3 is Yoshi! :P

http://www.finalfantasy.net/wp-conte...3/02/yoshi.jpg

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I would love to fight some of these as well! Cerberus is already slated for one of the bosses in the last CT climb.
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Not sure about Shinryu, but we have artwork for Tiamat at least! I'd love to maybe see her in 3rd coils :D
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Well I think instead of Lich a sort of vampire boss. FF is severely lacking in vampires. I remember seeing the artwork for the first vampire in early FF games and being blown away as a kiddo. But it's rare that vampires are enemies now. And they were somewhat underwhelming in FFXIII. So maybe instead of Lich some sort of vampiric monster? And if Cerberus is CT3 then I would replace him with Anubis. But a robotic Anubis because why not. And yeah Tiamat instead of Shinryu is a good choice too!

Hopefully its Bahamut. It is called Binding Coil of Bahamut after all. Make it a progression fight where you start at his feet and make your way up to his head using cannons, platforming, rail battles, alliances and chocobos.

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Not sure about Shinryu, but we have artwork for Tiamat at least! I'd love to maybe see him in 3rd coils

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Being nitpicky here, but Tiamat is female in all renditions I've ever seen her. :x

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Originally Posted by Deedsie

Being nitpicky here, but Tiamat is female in all renditions I've ever seen her. :x

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Yup, Tiamat is female.

I think that some of the bosses or mid bosses will consist of people we've seen die during the ARR story (Noraxia, Livia, Gaius, Rhitahtyn, Avere and Edda and the last two are a bit ambiguous)

Other possibilities would be Tiamat, The Espers of XII, Fenrir, ST enemies gunning for revenge, and The four fiends of any given game (Bravely Default included)

Evrae from FFX will be cool. Oooooh maybe some of the sinspawns will be cool. Griever from FF8 also, or Ozma from fF9

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Originally Posted by Marxam

Hopefully its Bahamut. It is called Binding Coil of Bahamut after all. Make it a progression fight where you start at his feet and make your way up to his head using cannons, platforming, rail battles, alliances and chocobos.

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We could never fight bahamut and win. He is so powerful that he is using his will power to reconstruct his body. We might fight some sort of embodiment of bahamut such as a "will of bahamut" or "soul of bahamut." His true physical form would make us seem like fleas on the back of a blue whale equipped with an array of nukes.


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SPOILER!!!!!!!!!
Based off of the SCoB CS, it is very likely that we will be fighting Louisoix Leveilleur. He is currently working for bahamut and has been tempered like nael dues darnus. Because of Louisoix's power, bahamut might have invested quite a bit into tempering him and we could very well see the "heart," "will," and/or "soul" of bahamut be some sort of incarnation manifested within Louisoix.

Actally I've not seen the videos after Neal (and I want no spoiler).

From what I've seen so far, I have the bad feeling, the final boss will be...Louisoix.

The only thing I hope is that bosses get their respect and are not a push over.

Primals feel a bit meh.. Titan is the only one I will remember for being hard. People who played since launch know the Titan HM encounter, it was awesome! Even Titan EX was great the very 1st two weeks it came out.

For people who want to kill Bahamut: I would be so disappointed if 8 people could down him. I'd be cool with it if Fenrir in full power helps us. :P

On serious note though, it looks like people just want to tackle notorious creatures rather than sticking with the lore. Would be nice if SE gave us the FFXIV lore from A to Z with back ground info of bestiary. Can't blame people for not knowing, it's kind of a mess right now.

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Palmer for sure. No one would be prepared and hundreds of threads will pop up raging about how overpowered he is/needs to be toned down.

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Originally Posted by abzoluut

The only thing I hope is that bosses get their respect and are not a push over.
Primals feel a bit meh.. Titan is the only one I will remember for being hard. People who played since launch know the Titan HM encounter, it was awesome! Even Titan EX was great the very 1st two weeks it came out.

For people who want to kill Bahamut: I would be so disappointed if 8 people could down him. I'd be cool with it if Fenrir in full power helps us. :P

On serious note though, it looks like people just want to tackle notorious creatures rather than sticking with the lore. Would be nice if SE gave us the FFXIV lore from A to Z with back ground info of bestiary. Can't blame people for not knowing, it's kind of a mess right now.

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I am not sure even an an army in present day eorzea could fell bahamut.

Obviously the Allag could control and utilize bahamut, but they also had spaceships, ultima weapon, omega weapon and could manipulate aether in their technology. I really don't see us players destroying a fully formed bahamut. Bahamut even resisted the power of the twelve, and they are essentially gods.

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Originally Posted by Cojika

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Palmer for sure. No one would be prepared and hundreds of threads will pop up raging about how overpowered he is/needs to be toned down.

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And you would finish the fight with a truck!

Hildibrand

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Originally Posted by cryptic_angel

I am not sure even an an army in present day eorzea could fell bahamut.

Obviously the Allag could control and utilize bahamut, but they also had spaceships, ultima weapon, omega weapon and could manipulate aether in their technology. I really don't see us players destroying a fully formed bahamut. Bahamut even resisted the power of the twelve, and they are essentially gods.

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4 random guys with crystal is usually enough to kill a Bahamuth !

I could see us fighting Bahamut eventually, a fully restored Bahamut? Nupe. Right now in the Binding Coils... :: INCOMING SPOILERS! ::

Bahamut is currently regenerating through the means of the coils mechanics themselves with the help of the spirit of Nael Van Darnus (dead finally now) and Louisoix Leveilleur. I definitely see Louisoix being a boss if not the final boss for Coils 3.

But yes, I could very well see us fighting an "incomplete" or weakened Bahamut thanks to the current storyline inside Coils.

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Originally Posted by Deedsie

Being nitpicky here, but Tiamat is female in all renditions I've ever seen her. :x

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SEMANTICS! lol *************her

I don't see us fighting this boss in coil 3 or CT3, but I would really enjoy Diablos fight where he was more than just a 4-man dungeon boss.

Diablos deserved more :'(

CT3 might be inside the Void. Maybe I'm wrong but have we not been told somewhere in the story that Voidsent are not killed, but just sent back to the Void ? Lady Amandine was killed, Halicarnassus brought her back by snapping her fingers...
Diablos may be waiting there, in his own realm.

Ok I'm just hoping too much for his return I guess :p

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Originally Posted by cryptic_angel

I am not sure even an an army in present day eorzea could fell bahamut.

Obviously the Allag could control and utilize bahamut, but they also had spaceships, ultima weapon, omega weapon and could manipulate aether in their technology. I really don't see us players destroying a fully formed bahamut. Bahamut even resisted the power of the twelve, and they are essentially gods.

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yeah....not even praying to the 12 helped :rolleyes:


i want to fight .....

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I would honestly like to see some ff6 bosses... something, hell most bosses are long phases anyways... add the Divine Comedy fight! If I remember correctly, it was literally the first of it's kind in the final fantasy series! It's a 4 stage fight and you had to go through a lot of crap just to reach the final boss. Music transitions, way different mechanics per transition... this is very fitting for this game!

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Originally Posted by cryptic_angel

I am not sure even an an army in present day eorzea could fell bahamut.

Obviously the Allag could control and utilize bahamut, but they also had spaceships, ultima weapon, omega weapon and could manipulate aether in their technology. I really don't see us players destroying a fully formed bahamut. Bahamut even resisted the power of the twelve, and they are essentially gods.

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To be fair, Louisoix didn't summon the Twelve at full power, in fact, he summoned them late;

http://www.finalfantasyxiv.com/anniv...?rgn=na&lng=en

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The Archon’s plan was to summon the Twelve using forbidden arts known only to him. With their combined strength, he was certain that he could prevent the fall of the lesser moon. Such strength, however, posed a threat in itself. Should Eorzea’s patron deities assume physical form, it seemed more than likely that they would be prone to the same appetites as the gods of the beastmen. Should that prove the case, their mere presence would bleed the land of life. And so Louisoix would instead call upon a fraction of the Twelve’s power—enough to stay Dalamud’s descent, and no more.

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If you're going to summon 12 Gods to stop the moon from falling, at least do so before the moon explodes and releases an angry dragon... That's just common sense...

I fully expect any fight we may have to be a case of us distracting him, while Cid or the twins pull out a deus ex machina in the form of Omega Weapon or a second Twelve summoning. The only other possibility is we effectively beat him in Coil while his in pieces, only for him to be resummoned by his new slaves in a much weaker form. The only reason he is so powerful now is because the Allag wanted him to be as powerful as possible because he was the center of their orbital power plant. The Coils keep him alive through artificial worship, and that's one aspect of where Primals draw their strength.

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I think that some of the bosses or mid bosses will consist of people we've seen die during the ARR story (Noraxia, Livia, Gaius, Rhitahtyn, Avere and Edda and the last two are a bit ambiguous)

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I would say this is the most likely scenario. Also, some form or maybe Bahamut himself is probably going to be the final boss.

I say this with hesitation because I posted a thread about it a while back and people didn't really seem to like the idea, but I've always thought it would be cool to have a variation (not a copy pasta) of Jenova as one of the coil bosses. Like maybe some sort of ancient Allagan weapon what was built, sort of the same way that Bahamut is regenerating.

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Here ya go OP

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That's not Coil.

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Being nitpicky here, but Tiamat is female in all renditions I've ever seen her. :x

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Garuda and Shiva are "he" in the Hindu religion which they originated from. SE is free to make their creatures whichever gender they please.

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Garuda and Shiva are "he" in the Hindu religion which they originated from. SE is free to make their creatures whichever gender they please.

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I am aware they are male in the actual mythology, which is why I said in ALL renditions of Tiamat I've ever seen, and that includes the FF games I've seen her in.

But you are right in that they can change that if they want. They did just that for Garuda specifically since the first appearance in FFIII was male.