Request- Some form of carbuncle for Summoner.

I LOVE the carbuncle design, it just amazes me how magical the little guys feel. They've always been my favorite pets out of all the possible ones, even though I really tried to like the Primal egis, and I mean I stared at them, trying to find the good in them, (At least ifrits kinda cool... I guess.)

It's like they based the Egi forms around what Carbuncle is, puny FEELING (they don't need to be bigger) and simple in design, except it doesn't work for the egis, they're supposed to be, or at least SHOULD be detailed and cool!

The Egis could never be as magical as carbuncle in their current forms and design, so if you can do anything besides work on the Egi designs more, I'd love to see some form of Carbuncle be useable for the Summoner and/or Scholar, I just hate not using them anymore, (Besides, it's kinda silly that just because I put on a crystal I suddenly can't summon carbuncle anymore)

I'm sure somebody's asked for this before, and I'm sure they either got shot down or laughed at, blah blah.

Don't care, asking anyways.

I would love to have a carbuncle instead of egis. The whole reason I started with summoner was because of the carbuncle. I wish they would implement a way to keep summoning it even after you get the egis. I miss them.

You aren't the only one. I miss my carby.

Yeah a large number of summoners would love this, considering the threads that popped around the time the Hunt promo screenshots teased a Summoner in AF with Carbuncle out.

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Originally Posted by Ryel

Yeah a large number of summoners would love this, considering the threads that popped around the time the Hunt promo screenshots teased a Summoner in AF with Carbuncle out.

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And just to prove it.. screenshot from the official FFXIV Facebook page!

https://www.facebook.com/FinalFantas...type=3&theater

Summoner in full AF+1 gear and an Emerald Carby fighting a B rank.

Give us our carbies back please!

Yeah, Carbuncle is cute, I'd love being able to summon him on SMN. I once went ahead and signed up as ACN just so I could have Carbuncle there.

Only issue is that Egis replace whatever carbuncle exists, so probably won't happen.

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Originally Posted by Tupsi

Only issue is that Egis replace whatever carbuncle exists, so probably won't happen.

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I admit I'm oversimplifying things, but all they essentially did was change the skin.

I'd also like to see some sort of quest in the future where you can change it back.

They could make him a SMN pet in that they can call him but maybe not use him. I think most SMN are used to XI and him being your first avatar and first to keep out with no mp cost with the right gear. I agree that he should still be usable after ACN is done. I mean no one plays classes and after you unlock the job carbuncle is tossed to the curb and to me he is kind of the main reason I also went to SMN in XIV.

SMN was the one DD job I was looking forward to. I'm typically a healer and was extremely excited to have my Carby. Sadly, once I became a SMN he turned into Garuda-Egi and Ifrit-Egi and I mourned my little bouncy buddy.

I, too, would love some way to be able to use Carby as a SMN. Perhaps we could have a Ruby version that is bigger and badder than the previous two Carbuncles and would fall into the Egi skill range?

Ima unequip my summoner stone & queue up the duty finder. "Carbuncle... go!"

They should just change "Emerald Carby" to a more green color and keep the current Blue Carby(the name should just be Carbuncle) as a support pet, not healing, that both SMN and SCH can use.

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Originally Posted by kidvideo

Ima unequip my summoner stone & queue up the duty finder. "Carbuncle... go!"

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A guy in our raid group did this and we went in ST and he still did great DPS.

I would love to have the Carbuncles back. I miss them.

I agree. The egis just don't do it for me--so boring and bland. They honestly kinda ruined the summoner class for me. I'll take carby over them any day, thank-you-very-much.

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Originally Posted by Wobble

A guy in our raid group did this and we went in ST and he still did great DPS.

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How is this possible? He was without Fester, Spur & Enkindle, not to mention Contagion.

I would love to summon carbuncle as a SMN, but I don't think its gonna happen. To remedy my need I switch back to an ACN (since i90+gear can be equipped by ACN) and do some low lv roulette or ST

The only problem is he is SO hard to keep track of in 8+ men raid.

I'd prefer it if they make him as a minion

I just want carbuncle back instead of ifrit, because well Ifrit is useless for the most part, lol

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Originally Posted by kidvideo

How is this possible? He was without Fester, Spur & Enkindle, not to mention Contagion.

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Technically, Carbuncle has Contagion but it's called Shining Emerald. It has the exact same effect as Contagion. Arcanist also have Rouse. The rest you were correct. And to answer your question, he didn't do great DPS. Losing 10 of your primary stats, your biggest damaging nuke, a 40% damage boost to your pet + Enkindle will make your DPS horrendous.

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Originally Posted by kidvideo

How is this possible? He was without Fester, Spur & Enkindle, not to mention Contagion.

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Considering from a design standpoint Carbuncle = Egi, they share the same abilities and stats for the most part, heck even greater at 50 actually, the problem though egis are more "specialized" when they replace Carby. So when geared, you can still do good DPS, since your Pet doesn't do great damage as is as the majority of your DPS comes from your DoTs and Fester anyway.

So basically, any egis we get, there's a Carbuncle used as the baseline, so its possible for SMN to get Carbuncles, but very unlikely since Carbuncle is an actual summon/familiar and not a egi.

It feels like carby was the only summon they put effort into, all others look so bad.

Someone on reddit suggested a cosmetic option that changed the egis back to carbuncles, adding a ruby carbuncle to replace Ifrit. Of course, if there's gonna be comspetic options of that nature for SMN I want some for other jobs too. :O

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Originally Posted by Tupsi

Considering from a design standpoint Carbuncle = Egi, they share the same abilities and stats for the most part, heck even greater at 50 actually.

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Garuda technically has better stats than Carbuncle because summons snapshot your stats at the time of their summoning and the Summoner Soul Crystal gives you more intelligence therefore Garuda's intelligence becomes technically higher. Also, Garuda's spell are all of a higher potency as well so even if the Soul Crystal would give you no bonus, she'd still be better than Carbuncle.

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Originally Posted by Tupsi

So when geared, you can still do good DPS, since your Pet doesn't do great damage as is as the majority of your DPS comes from your DoTs and Fester anyway.

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Summons do 25-30% of your total damage output, that's pretty great damage if you ask me.

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Originally Posted by Dwill

Technically, Carbuncle has Contagion but it's called Shining Emerald. It has the exact same effect as Contagion. Arcanist also have Rouse. The rest you were correct. And to answer your question, he didn't do great DPS. Losing 10% of your primary stats, your biggest damaging nuke, a 40% damage boost to your pet + Enkindle will make your DPS horrendous.

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You lose exactly 10 of each stat by taking off your job crystal. Not 10%.

You can make up for it to some degree by using other cross class abilities like Blood for Blood, Internal Release or (I think) Aero. I mean you're still going to be doing less DPS as the ACN, but it's not all loss.

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Originally Posted by Alukah

It feels like carby was the only summon they put effort into, all others look so bad.

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^This

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Originally Posted by Giantbane

You lose exactly 10 of each stat by taking off your job crystal. Not 10%.

You can make up for it to some degree by using other cross class abilities like Blood for Blood, Internal Release or (I think) Aero. I mean you're still going to be doing less DPS as the ACN, but it's not all loss.

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I dunno why I typed % but good catch, I edited it. Blood for Blood if used on CD is a 2,5% damage increase over the duration of an encounter and Internal Release if used on CD is a 2,5% crit increase over the duration of the encounter and Aero is 170 potency DoT every 18 seconds. All of these do not even remotely make up for the loss of Fester(which is about ~17% of your damage output) let alone the rest of what you lose.

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Originally Posted by Alukah

It feels like carby was the only summon they put effort into, all others look so bad.

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LOL. Sorry but I find this comment funny since they just copied FFXI Carby over.

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Originally Posted by Giantbane

You lose exactly 10 of each stat by taking off your job crystal. Not 10%.

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No, Job crystals give you 10 in all stats, except your primary. You get 20 from that.

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Originally Posted by Dyvid

LOL. Sorry but I find this comment funny since they just copied FFXI Carby over.

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They didn't, actually - Not only does it have different animations, it's also very different in the body shape and size. Carby from XI was more "full" in terms of body size.

Earlier when I was doing one of the main story 8 person quests for tomes, I saw a summoner's Garuda just get utterly destroyed by something. Right after the summoner commented on it, I replied, "Clearly we need a big Carbuncle instead. Folks started chatting "yes!" right afterwards.

I almost want to start working on arcanist on my main, but I just have that sad realization that Carby would eventually get replaced. I remember the days when there were Carbuncles all over the place, yet now it is rare that I see one. I want to see a parade of them sometime.

When they raise the level cap, if SMN gets a new pet as it often has been alluded that they would, I would greatly prefer a Ruby Carbuncle over anything else. That way nothing has to be retroactive for lore and we can have our beloved carbuncle back. But please whatever you do, somehow make him more useful than Garuda currently is.