isn't about time we start looking forward to a PVP patch, I love to have a tag team partner 2v2, see new styles; I even have friend that is only missing 2-i100 style.
We should expect i110, with the new morale FL boost, as well as, 5-11 PVP style, and a PVP rank increase.
What I hope we see is GC special abilities and bonus.
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09-08-2014, 10:36 AMRegentPpatch 2.45
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09-08-2014, 12:38 PMAtreus
What?
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09-08-2014, 02:41 PMCopestetic
Speaking of a PvP patch, has there been mention of when new updates/content for PvP? I know Yoshi-P wants to add some maps and map rotations for GC's in FL, but what about WD?
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09-08-2014, 02:47 PMSessurea
Nah they need to keep morale out. "gear up so u wipe the floor with undergeared noobs" mentality is dead now in FF ( and every other decent mmo ), and se know this, if you haven't realised @FL -->Huge success. WD-->Epic failure. Learn to play on an even playing field. Theres enough damn grind in this game, can't we keep pvp free from this? I want to have fun in pvp, not more grind T_T And heres a pure fact for you: If they bring FL geared as optional BG, it would be dead. End of story. Only geared people would do it ( obviously ) and then they realise that they don't have undergeared noobs to destroy, but only equally over geared people, and thus we have gone full circle creating a 2nd equalized BG. ---->Useless. And undergeared people would NEVER go in there since they can get wolf points in equalized FL, so rip that idea.
On the matter of FL, they need to ditch GC vs GC vs GC, and simply make it 24 vs 24 vs 24. Really people, please speak up for this. On odin all are in "maelstronk", queue times are awful, why? Because how can we queue 3 different teams when all are in the same retarded autowin GC???
OP I agree with you 100%, we DO need a pvp patch, but in all honesty I think they need to address and fix what we have before implementing new stuff. -
09-09-2014, 12:50 PMRegentP
well most of that stuff is slated for 2.38, but i didn't hear about anything on gear or added maps for .38 so maybe the live letter or patch notes will fill use in
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09-09-2014, 02:00 PMNamasuinb4 someone come to this thread and tell you to gear up and get gud like them and that morale is important for pvp "progression" (aka noobstomping) *snickers*.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sessurea
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09-11-2014, 06:28 AMDivinemightYoship has mentioned about his development plan for the Frontline on an intervew with Famitsu on July 10, 2014:Quote:
Originally Posted by Copestetic
http://www.famitsu.com/news/201407/10056874.html
Question: About the PvP from now on, are you going to puting more Grand Company elements?Quote:
Q ──今後PvPに関して、それぞれのグランドカンパニーならではの要素は入りますか？
吉田 フロントラインのベース企画では、グランドカンパニー単位に、PvP専用ジョブアクションを用意する予定でした。いまもまだ企画は残っています。ただ、今回のフロントラインはできるだけカジュアルで公平なバトルを提供するというコンセプトで進めているので、当初の企画意図を生かすかどうか……という部分も含めて、現在検討しているところです。
YoshiP: Current plan for the Frontline Project is by using Grand Company as basic foundation and developing more PvP actions. Even at this point, we are still trying to achieve this goal, but currently we are trying to progress into a direction to be more friendly to the casual palying. We are still in reviewing about our original goal.
Queation: Are you planing to expand further on the PvP variation?Quote:
Q ──PvPのバリエーションは、今後どのように広がっていきますか？
吉田 今後は、ウルヴズジェイルとフロントラインのふたつを根本に据えてアップデートしていきます。たとえばフロントラインはカルテノー平原のアウトロー戦区で展開されるバトルですが、戦線の拡大に伴って、別のエリアが新たな戦場になる可能性もあります。
YoshiP: From now on, the focus will be on both Wolf's Den and the Frontline for the future updates. Forexmaple, we will expand futher on the Frontline battlescale. It is highly possible that an new battlefield will be open.
Question: What can we expect to see? (Due to ギミック is a very difficult Japanse term to be translate into English, I will translate it this way based on the content of YoshiP's response)Quote:
Q ──ギミックは今後も増えていくのですか？
吉田 外壁やドアを壊さないと内部に入れないタイプの陣地を追加する……といった拡張のパターンを考えています。その際には、クラフターが製作したシージウェポン（攻城兵器）をグラウンドターゲットで設置して砦を攻撃するなど、そういったアップデートなどを考えていきたいと思っています。
YoshiP: Putting into Siege element such as breakthrough enemy wall or door type of combat. When this is putting into desgin, there will also be player craftable siege weapon to be put into the game.
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Basically, the Frontline will tied to internal conflcit of interest between three GCs and expand further from it. The Frontline PvP is basically heading towards Guild War 2 direction instead of World of Warcraft. Yes, their original intention is to develope Grand Company uniqued PvP actions as we can see that in our PvP profile section. PvP actions is divided into GCs.
ps. There is one more section about GC afflication I didnt translate, but I am not bother to do it because people will just enrage once they heard aobut it. -
09-11-2014, 01:22 PMZReportI def wanna hear about it, lol.Quote:
Originally Posted by Divinemight
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09-11-2014, 04:13 PMNamasuI would give Yoshi lots of props if he actually plan to let crafters and gatherers be integral roles in siege combat (like hamlet). Stronger siege machines by crafting HQ pieces. Sneaking around the map to gather important mining/harvesting nodes. Protecting your crafters and gatherers or go for the enemies' workers. RTS elements in MY large scale pvp? Yes please! Also if you doubt that something like this work, check out Fantasy Earth Zero an RTS PVP MMORPG made by Square Enix that is very popular in Japan.Quote:
Originally Posted by Divinemight
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09-11-2014, 08:01 PMCopestetic
WvWvW is flat-out horrible in GW2. Not to mention quite dead considering most of the good Guilds/players are gone now since there's been little content released for it. I really hope they don't think it's something worth emulating in this game.
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09-11-2014, 08:37 PMSessureaAnd I'd say learn to play w/o needing to overgear xDQuote:
Originally Posted by Namasu
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09-12-2014, 01:31 AMDivinemight
Latest update:
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Q: Can you perform fine tune adjustments to PvP and have Hot Fixes with a higher frequency?
A: We'd like to proactively make adjustments to PvP specific values as often as possible.
It looks like their focus is on the Frontline only atm. This update also match to YoshiP's interview with Famitsu.Quote:
Q: Can you tell us about any plans in the future for additions or expansions to the Wolves' Den?
A: A lot of players are getting involved with Frontline, and even players who previously were not interested in PvP are participating in greater numbers. The current concept of the Wolves' Den is a place for people who want to improve themselves and become even stronger in PvP. We'll be making adjustments to Frontline including the addition of new maps and rules, and we'd like to see more players motivated to get better at PvP. However, if we make adjustments to both Frontline and Wolves' Den at the same time, it would become a bit too fragmented and we're concerned that matching might become difficult. For this reason, we'd like to focus on Frontline first and once the number of these motivated players increases further we'd then like to add rewards, rankings, and a season system to the Wolves' Den. We'd like to proceed carefully so that those players who are really interested in PvP because of Frontline aren't discouraged because they try the Wolves' Den and get defeated immediately.
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09-12-2014, 11:32 AMNalienI really wish they'd add Ranked 1v1 to Wolves Den. It should be simple enough to implement, and the queue times would be vastly improved compared to the 4v4 version. Just fix it so it's only ever matches you with someone on the same Class/Job, might impact the queue times a bit, but it's better than having a Black Mage verses a Marauder. The Rankings would actually be interesting to go over in that case, too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Copestetic
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09-15-2014, 01:47 AMDustySlippersPVP is currently balanced around morale being in the game... so no they shouldnt keep it out. Gearing up is easy enough for a kid with downs to do now adays.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sessurea
Frontlines is not a success. Its a cluster of 72 people and no real strategy were bad players don't get noticed and singled out. Individual performance is negligible and that's why its done as well as it has
WD was not an epic failure, the attempts of SE to fix WD was a failure. For a while the wolves den Q was good, what killed it was the fact that SE designed a system that rewarded 3 players queing together more then an individual player. By the time they fixed that it was too late. 3Q domination drove out most players -
09-15-2014, 09:09 AMSessureaNobody ever said gearing was difficult. It's just grind.Quote:
Originally Posted by DustySlippers
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09-15-2014, 08:48 PMNecaust
I really hope I don't see GW2/ESO type siege pvp. Give me a Warsong CTF or Huttball. Anyways, did I read that correctly? They want to increase the scale of Frontlines? I seriously hope that does not mean increasing the number of players in a single game because queue times are ridiculous as is.
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09-16-2014, 12:27 AMZyphione
It was mentioned before that they will not increase the amount of people in Frontlines? If I am not mistaken that the Producer was happy with it being 72 people and would want it to stay this way.
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09-16-2014, 12:44 AMSanghelios
So you will need PVP-Rank 50 for Ilvl 110 PVP-Armor. Hell no, 41-50 would take two times more exp needed then 1-40.
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09-16-2014, 01:00 AMDivinemightOther community prefers to see bigger scale of PvP I think. If they found a way to flush people out of Malestorm, this is possible. Oh yes, they also have to do something with match system.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zyphione
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09-16-2014, 04:41 AMTonkraSorry to say.. but you are TOTALLY wrong..Quote:
Originally Posted by Sessurea
first of all.. why does the equipment count for Arena PVP? no one was disturbed by the pvp gear within Wolves Den.. But now for Carteneau it is not okay?! this is even more drastically.. because you cant avoid these well geared players... its a small arena with just 4 people against 4 others.. while carteneau is HUGE and offers 3 groups vs 3 groups vs 3 groups PVP.. it is not like that in carteneau that you are just alone against a well geared player.
if they deactivate pvp gear.. i would have rather expected that for arena pvp and not for "openworld" pvp on a huge map...
second... it is okay that players have ilevel 110 pvm gear in Carteneau and are better than people with ilevel 100 pvp gear? (i know that they reduce the ilevel to 80)..
third... people have no drive to do pvp if they cant achieve anything from it. (look at pvp queues)
fourth pvp players should have the same right to professionalize like pvm players do, regarding skills AND equipment.
If they deactivate +moral ... they should remove all these "PvP Gears" ... and convert them to PVM gear also, that you can alternatively achieve in PVP..
or BALANCE the moral stat right... or implementing other pvp stats such as reducing pvp damage, decreasing casting interruptions
And last... the whole "no risk ... no risk.." path Yoshi P. and MMOrpgs like WoW... is SO Boring and SUCKS completely..
Receiving better equipment exists since the RPG genre... games like Diablo III... etc. etc..
PVP Games like DAOC (yoshi P. played it, too) lived from equipment and pvp skilltrees.. and it has the best pvp till today. its the portion spice which adds it to pvp... and the whole game..
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09-16-2014, 08:34 AMRinLIm for your removal of GC v GC v GC idea. I disagree with you on the gear though - if everyone is scaled down, what is the point of pvp gear or items? If they want to continue this model, they are going to have to continue building on 'pvp talents'. Im not a huge fan of this, but its the only option they will have to spice the game up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sessurea
Also, more game modes please. Arena and FL is getting boring as all getout >.> give us some capture the flag, or a boss v boss v boss game. Something like an Alterac Valley from WoW. Anything really, just give us variety and a reward for winning thats worth a damn.