Fun fact about Thavarian Onions (not fun)

In case there are others like me that didn't realize:

Feeding a Thavarian Onion to your chocobo during training at the sables does NOT instantly rank up your chocobo from 10 to 11. It increases the level CAP to 11. After the feeding you need to go level your chocobo to the new cap.

If you feed your chocobo another Thavarian Onion before hitting the new cap, your onion will be wasted and the cap will NOT increase.

Given that this means you're looking at a LOT of time between onion feedings for new cap increases I feel like only getting 1 onion per seed planting is kind of unfair, especially for large FC groups. With a small house it takes nearly 2 months to get one full bed of Thavarion Onions.

Keep in mind that you need an Onion for each level. This doesn't ease the problems. I can only hope that when they release personal Housing, that it will include a personal Garden as well.

Oh geeze, that sounds rough >< The grind continues lol

But yeah, if personal gardening doesn't come with personal housing, that would be pretty terrible. Gating these solely behind FC gardening would suck.

As always SE is calculating the time from what is possible for a 24/7 hardcore player.
It is possible to level 1.000.000+ Chocobo XP within one day but if you argue like that it will become out of reach for "normal" players...
Same calculations SE have done with housing prices and we all know what happened.

They just forget that it will sacrify the FUN in playing as we see on sightseeing log frustration!
And why they need that horrible timesink in the first place? Isnt the source the lack of content? Are they scared to run out of content before new been created?

Edit: Well, Chocobo leveling is something special, you can not do it while doing other stuff, you are locked out if you level your chocobo!

Sorry! I felt the info was very clear. The onions break level cap. You actually have to do the work of leveling them yourself. >.>' And yes, 1 onion is needed for each level.

Straight from the patch notes.

"- Chocobo Level Cap For chocobos that have already attained the maximum rank, rewarding them with a Thavnairian onion following training will increase this upper limit by one. * Chocobo companions cannot exceed rank 20."

With emphasis on "That has already attained the maximum rank" and "increase the upper limit by one"

The last few levels to Rank 10 scaled up adding quite a bit of xp needed TNL. I imagine by Rank 19 you must need like 4 to 5 million xp to level up. I'm guessing there will be some sort of reward other than the additional barding down the line. Maybe a new achievement with item reward, or future perk for racing. Still, it's an insane amount of grinding for a bird that's really only going to be as good as a rank 10 chocobo, just with some added flexibility. Wouldn't surprise me to see them add the chocobo mask back in as a reward for hitting Rank 20.

I think the Choccobo will be of great use when fully levelled. You can then choose, according to your situation, whether you want to have a DPSing, tanking or healing Choccobo. I had mine levelled as DD formerly but made a reset and now my birdie is a Healer. But I miss the stun skill my old DD Choccobo had..it was really handy to have him interrupt AOE abilities here and there. But my healer birdie is on the other side a very nice healer actually and saved my ass more than one time while fighting Level 45+ mobs in heavy spirit bonding DOH/DOL gear lol. I am sure all trees have one or more nice spells you will miss when you don't have them. Waiting patiently for my own Garden so I can finally approach the Onions.

You get more than just flexibility due to the passive traits. Meaning your chocobos dps and hp will increase by quite a bit if you invest in all trees. If you set him to free stance he uses all of his skills too.

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Originally Posted by Doki

for a bird that's really only going to be as good as a rank 10 chocobo, just with some added flexibility

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False. Each tree has a number of passive stat increases that make the choco stronger at all times. Not just when changing stances for flexibility. They do actually gain more HP, Acc, Crit rate, etc for each tree completed.

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Originally Posted by Tiggy

False. Each tree has a number of passive stat increases that make the choco stronger at all times. Not just when changing stances for flexibility. They do actually gain more HP, Acc, Crit rate, etc for each tree completed.

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Exactly. Getting to level 6 in all 3 trees gives the chocobo a base rating of 45% critical hit rate.

45%

I'm gonna let mine heal a dungeon when it gets a bit higher, if it's even possible at the moment. Haven't tried yet lol.

noone stops you from buying onions if you arent able to garden them on your own

btw

http://www.bilder-hochladen.net/files/fj03-9j-2f2b.jpg

it isnt that hard
getting 1 rank takes 1 week with stable training and challenge log, more then enough time to farm 1-2 mil for a new onion

Yeah, I guess it IS something else to do while waiting on coil lockouts. I'd be happier if the onions were not gated behind FC gardening and/or if the output per seed was even slightly higher. Even in a tiny FC with a single plot it takes a lot of time to get 8 onions, and we have a decent amount of people with rank 10 birds.

Maybe they will add achievement perks for hitting rank 20 and re-introduce the chocobo mask as reward...I can definitely see getting rank 20 being a perk for chocobo racing eventually.

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Originally Posted by ServerCollaps

getting 1 rank takes 1 week

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Actually - even without the weekly Challenge bonus which equals to 15% (5 + 10) of total XP needed per each level you can do one full level in 50 hours - e.g. 2 days and 2 hours you you'd feed it exactly every hour twice - this is pre lvl 10 where with Cleansparkly stables each training gives 1% of XP needed so 100 Krakka roots will take it to level up. From level 10 it's only 0.9% so 111 Krakka Roots + tiny bit to complete once you take the choco out. I've managed last weekend to level 2 chocos fully one level before the clean status expired.

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Originally Posted by HEC-

Actually - even without the weekly Challenge bonus which equals to 15% (5 + 10) of total XP needed per each level you can do one full level in 50 hours - e.g. 2 days and 2 hours you you'd feed it exactly every hour twice - this is pre lvl 10 where with Cleansparkly stables each training gives 1% of XP needed so 100 Krakka roots will take it to level up. From level 10 it's only 0.9% so 111 Krakka Roots + tiny bit to complete once you take the choco out. I've managed last weekend to level 2 chocos fully one level before the clean status expired.

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its 0.65% per training @ 15, it starts taking a while

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Originally Posted by Doki

I'd be happier if the onions were not gated behind FC gardening

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you still can buy them and nothing gates you from farming gil

Em...yeah. Anyone who went through the bother of using google could tell you that.

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Originally Posted by Yukiko

Edit: Well, Chocobo leveling is something special, you can not do it while doing other stuff, you are locked out if you level your chocobo!

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You can do it while doing beastmen dailies, FATEs (and Atma farming), treasure hunt and non-instanced spirit bounding.

Do you guys think we can obtain another barding at rank 20?

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Originally Posted by Felis

You can do it while doing beastmen dailies, FATEs (and Atma farming), treasure hunt and non-instanced spirit bounding.

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If thats the content you like, fine for me, but at least you should not guard it with knowing its not the total content we have ingame.
Maybe if the restrictions are fixed ... you can enjoy it, but not as it is now because joining a group is a pain when having chocobo out.

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Originally Posted by Rydia13

Do you guys think we can obtain another barding at rank 20?

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you get the 3rd at 20

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Originally Posted by Sadana

Sorry! I felt the info was very clear. The onions break level cap. You actually have to do the work of leveling them yourself. >.>' And yes, 1 onion is needed for each level.

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Exactly.

That's why lots are buying Krakka Carrots ;)

I prefer the Challenge Log and SB in Urth's Gift, but that's me.. versus making sure the stable is in excellent condition, no thank you.

And I can't wait to see if my Onion will sprout in a few days! Man that took quite the time >.<

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Originally Posted by KingOfAbyss

Exactly.

That's why lots are buying Krakka Carrots ;)

I prefer the Challenge Log and SB in Urth's Gift, but that's me.. versus making sure the stable is in excellent condition, no thank you.

And I can't wait to see if my Onion will sprout in a few days! Man that took quite the time >.<

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Because rallying 20k from the guild to buy one broom every few days from the npc is tough?

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Originally Posted by ServerCollaps

noone stops you from buying onions if you arent able to garden them on your own

btw

http://www.bilder-hochladen.net/files/fj03-9j-2f2b.jpg

it isnt that hard
getting 1 rank takes 1 week with stable training and challenge log, more then enough time to farm 1-2 mil for a new onion

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1 week for 1 million? Guess I'm in the wrong server, or please explain how you do it.

Like you can 'sell' a PDF: how I can make a million per week on Odin..

I wonder if you did Hunts, All roulettes, ST, the New beast Tribes, daily, or you just played and leveled up your chocobo since Onions were available o.O

Like, being on 24/24..

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Originally Posted by Tiggy

Because rallying 20k from the guild to buy one broom every few days from the npc is tough?

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It's tough when you are 3 Active people. (and don't start with getting more peeps lol)

I am almost getting the mats to make my own x 20.. and as I said, I prefer the other route.

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Originally Posted by KingOfAbyss

1 week for 1 million? Guess I'm in the wrong server, or please explain how you do it.

Like you can 'sell' a PDF: how I can make a million per week on Odin..

I wonder if you did Hunts, All roulettes, ST, the New beast Tribes, daily, or you just played and leveled up your chocobo since Onions were available o.O

Like, being on 24/24..

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I dont hunt, I dont do roulettes, beast daylies take 20 min, leveling chocobo = feeding krakka 1 time per hour, and I dont run sc
lots of time left for other things to do

I usually do 1m/h if I want to, many ppl even more
and even if odin economy =/= other servers economy, I'm pretty sure everyone can somehow manage 1m/week, by just having a single gatherer 50...

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Originally Posted by ServerCollaps

I dont hunt, I dont do roulettes, beast daylies take 20 min, leveling chocobo = feeding krakka 1 time per hour, and I dont run sc
lots of time left for other things to do

I usually do 1m/h if I want to, many ppl even more
and even if odin economy =/= other servers economy, I'm pretty sure everyone can somehow manage 1m/week

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Thanks for answering. My beast dailies (the Ixali crafting ones), going back and forth takes me 30 mins, I'll have to be more efficient ^^

Yeah so you cut on other stuff to do. Make sense when you dedicate yourself on a few features of the game only.

Kudos for rank 15, guess you'll be 20 and ready for the Golden Saucer Race ;)

And no, can't manage to make 1 million per week. Will have to check that out.

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Originally Posted by KingOfAbyss

1 week for 1 million? Guess I'm in the wrong server, or please explain how you do it.

Like you can 'sell' a PDF: how I can make a million per week on Odin..

I wonder if you did Hunts, All roulettes, ST, the New beast Tribes, daily, or you just played and leveled up your chocobo since Onions were available o.O

Like, being on 24/24..

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I've made 5 million gil yesterday in a timespan of maybe 3-4 hours just by desynthesizing and spiritbonding.
I don't even have all crafters 50 or any gatherers which would allow to just hunt unspoiled resources for a guaranteed profit.

Look whats needed and supply people with it, it's that simple.

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Originally Posted by KingOfAbyss

It's tough when you are 3 Active people. (and don't start with getting more peeps lol)

I am almost getting the mats to make my own x 20.. and as I said, I prefer the other route.

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That is indeed a fair scenario where it's tougher. We personally spent the first month or so I'd say adding broombrush to our stockpile of glazenuts we made in 2.2. We have months worth of mats now, but I'll admit that path directly distracted our initial onion efforts. 2 plots for our house is just not enough.

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Originally Posted by Jaeifer

I've made 5 million gil yesterday in a timespan of maybe 3-4 hours just by desynthesizing and spiritbonding.
I don't even have all crafters 50 or any gatherers which would allow to just hunt unspoiled resources for a guaranteed profit.

Look whats needed and supply people with it, it's that simple.

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If a lot of people were able to just look at the market and magicaly create 5 millions worth of supplies in 3 to 4 hours (I'm assuming that you're talking about benefits), well, the market prices would collapse in a day.

Being able to drop demi-materia III and Materia IV like it's raining, and be able to sell them all in less hours than I have fingers on my hand is not "simple".
You're an exception, not an average player.

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Originally Posted by KingOfAbyss

Like you can 'sell' a PDF: how I can make a million per week on Odin..

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Not quite sure if serious but...gil is so easy to come across on Odin that you can easily make millions. I am not even doing anything for the sake of making gil and I end up making a few mil every week or two just by playing the content there.