Other than a win, what is considered a good match? (stats)

Last match, I had 12 kills and 113k damage done (no deaths).
match before however, I had 5 kills and 18k damage done (1 death).
Most of the time, I have 40-70k and 5 kills with 3 deaths

What is considered good? I prioritize sleep until their healers are overstressed then AoE.

It really depends but I'd say killing blows are probably a better indicator in general. You can have high damage because you failed to kill someone and ended up being stalemated for 10 minutes straight. Conversely, you can have low damage but a lot of killing blows which gains points and takes people out of the match momentarily.

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Originally Posted by Shake0615

Conversely, you can have low damage but a lot of killing blows which gains points and takes people out of the match momentarily.

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most people will look at that as ninja'ing kills though. meaning other players got the player low and then you just came along and you just dropped a bomb on it for the kill. alot of players don't take kindly to that having their kills stolen. its best to have a balanced kills with damage done so you don't look like you've ninja'd your teammates kills. 12 kills with 113k damage is balanced. but if you had done say 12 kills with only 15k damage players would just say you stole the kills.

Stats don't really tell you anything at all without context. Your 12 kills and most of your 118k damage could have been the result of a perfectly timed LB on a group of 6 Summoners, Scholars and their pets. Your 5 kill 18k damage match could have had you finishing off players that had escaped every other person on your side or kill stealing from opposing GC members.

In my best match as a Paladin, I ended up having very bad stats in comparison to my other matches, but I ended up getting 3 commendations for Covering, Tetsudo and Stoneskining the party most of the match when we only had a Scholar as our 1 healer.

You being a BLM, It's rather hard to say since you have multiple roles aside from just straight up damage dealing.
But yeah, "damage done" is a good start. I don't usually tend to look at kills because there is always a chance that its been stolen, or I've stolen them.

If you feel you've done well, and supported your team to the best of your ability, that’s good enough I suppose.

I sound like an old mom.

Edit: Grammar failz

there is no measure of success other than the win

from my experience on blm my win rates seem better when my dps/kills are lower. because i'm just spamming sleep/freeze taking the dps off my healers. get some dmg and a few kills.

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Originally Posted by Gor

most people will look at that as ninja'ing kills though. meaning other players got the player low and then you just came along and you just dropped a bomb on it for the kill. alot of players don't take kindly to that having their kills stolen. its best to have a balanced kills with damage done so you don't look like you've ninja'd your teammates kills. 12 kills with 113k damage is balanced. but if you had done say 12 kills with only 15k damage players would just say you stole the kills.

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True. But if the OP knows he's being honest with himself and not trying to ninja them on purpose then I think it can be a good reflection of his ability to not only sustain damage but burst at the appropriate times. I know in some of my matches I'll have over 100k damage and only a few kills because we wound up stalemated at a flag and couldn't actually kill anyone. I wouldn't call that a good match because we failed to win points for our team.

I suppose my point is that numbers won't tell you whether you had a good match - it's the story behind those numbers.

A good match would end with an instant queue pop after exit...but that's just my opinion.

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Originally Posted by Gor

most people will look at that as ninja'ing kills though. meaning other players got the player low and then you just came along and you just dropped a bomb on it for the kill. alot of players don't take kindly to that having their kills stolen. its best to have a balanced kills with damage done so you don't look like you've ninja'd your teammates kills. 12 kills with 113k damage is balanced. but if you had done say 12 kills with only 15k damage players would just say you stole the kills.

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Maybe some people view this as ninja-ing kills, but going for the lowest hp player is often the most useful strat to help out your team. As a healer, I've had so many times where I cast a bene on someone with <300 hp and if just one extra person on their team had targeted that player I would have wasted my bene and my teammate would be dead. Frontlines is all about the focus fire and teamwork, I know the absolute last thing I care about when playing is worrying about people's feelings getting hurt by stealing their kills, I couldn't care less about my stats at the end.

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Originally Posted by Blubbers

Maybe some people view this as ninja-ing kills, but going for the lowest hp player is often the most useful strat to help out your team.

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I assumed that by "ninja-ing" Pink meant someone who did little else other than screw around until someone had low HP and then burned them down just for a number on the board. This isn't a widespread problem by any means but I've seen this happen. It's like their goal is just to get high PK numbers and not actually assist with any other the tactics like crowd control, peeling or interrupting a healer (how many times have we seen a WHM run to a flag and spam Holy unharrassed?). You are of course right that at the end of the day, it's all about the win regardless of your personal score.

I do ninja kills only if they are in range. Since I sleep and freeze until they are crippled, I use Phantom Dart and Swiftcast Flare when an enemy is low. I don't consider it stealing kills more than so overtaking or defending your position. I don't make it a priority to do so, but if I'm not able to Fire 3 > Fire 2 spam, I'll keep an eye open for low HP individuals to erase.

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Originally Posted by Skeith-Adeline

I do ninja kills only if they are in range. Since I sleep and freeze until they are crippled, I use Phantom Dart and Swiftcast Flare when an enemy is low. I don't consider it stealing kills more than so overtaking or defending your position. I don't make it a priority to do so, but if I'm not able to Fire 3 > Fire 2 spam, I'll keep an eye open for low HP individuals to erase.

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Which is how it should be in my opinion. A dead enemy provides so much benefit to the team that it isn't even worth being butthurt about. If I can't take down an individual myself, I'd gladly welcome others to do so for/with me. FL is extremely team oriented, but each individual player makes a huge difference.

Black Mages, keep doing yo thang.

If my team wins fights and skirmishes, I flip flags, crowd control effectively, help burst targets - all the while the enemy team is doing the same thing and I have to think two steps ahead to counter a steller cc/burst. The harder and more skilled the enemy, the better the match for me.

Zergs are NOT good matches. 8v16 is not as fun if I'm not with a premade.

Only thing I consider a good match, is a close game where you're unsure of who will win at the end. My personal favorite game that I considered my best match in FL was when Maelstrom had a 200 point lead over Flames and then we came back and won literally by 1 point. Score was 1600-1599. That was a clutch comeback and a good match.