B Rank Dailies!

I had an idea since the nerf of B ranks, I still hunt B ranks here and there for the achievements and weekly marks and what not. So why not make B ranks worth at least something to give people an incentive to do them. Because right now, they pretty much are pointless in the game. I mean, who in their right mind would hunt and kill 1000 B ranks mobs, for nothing but an achievement??

So i though of a solution, why not make the daily hunting marks, B rank mobs, and the Weekly nothing but A Ranks! This would mean we could get a total of 50 Allied seals a day from 5 B rank's. Then boost the spawn times to about 15 minutes, instead of 5 seconds, so that way it keeps the "Hunt" feel to it.

Just an idea i though of while hunting! Feel free to leave comments/suggestions/opinions!

Post Note:
This is mainly for the people who do not hardcore hunt, like me, since I am usually at work or school all day and miss most of the 4 hour pops, but if i was guranteed at least 50 Seals a day i would be fine!

If I am reading that right, it sounds like it would make things even worse than they are now.

This is mainly for the people who do not hardcore hunt, like me, since I am usually at work or school all day and miss most of the 4 hour pops, but if i was guranteed at least 50 Seals a day i would be find!

I agree that the B hunts are now pretty pointless for the game and I wish something would be done to make them more viable to even bother with. I could care less about hunts, but like many people, I don't have a crew that can farm the higher tiers of SCoB, I don't have time for hunts, not that even if I did they would be gotten, since they are zerged to oblivion as soon as they are visible, and the don't have a lot of time to camp the fates to get full credit for the daily hunts.

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Originally Posted by Jican

I agree that the B hunts are now pretty pointless for the game and I wish something would be done to make them more viable to even bother with. I could care less about hunts, but like many people, I don't have a crew that can farm the higher tiers of SCoB, I don't have time for hunts, not that even if I did they would be gotten, since they are zerged to oblivion as soon as they are visible, and the don't have a lot of time to camp the fates to get full credit for the daily hunts.

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Silly, noob question from someone relatively new to MMO's. What does SCoB stand for?

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Originally Posted by EricCartmenez

What does SCoB stand for?

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Second Coil of Bahamut ... basically top tier raids.

They should replace the tedious two FATES with two B-mobs and make the weekly ANY A-Mob. Then you could call it hunting and have a good chance to both fulfill your daily and weekly hunt goals.

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Originally Posted by HEC-

Second Coil of Bahamut ... basically top tier raids.

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Yeah, it was right after I posted that, I was running through More Donuts and saying something about Second Coil to a FC member and it clicked. I only had someone explain what a PUG was to me a couple of days ago.

Replacing the daily Fate mobs for hunting with B Ranks would please me. The weekly being any A Rank instead of a Random B rank sounds to me like it would work as well.

Following are the locations of B ranks:

B Ranks:
Albin the Ashen - Southern Thanalan
Barbastelle - Lower La Noscea
Bloody Mary - Eastern La Noscea
Dark Helmet - Western La Noscea
Flame Sergeant Dalvag - Northern Thanalan
Gatling - Eastern Thanalan
Leech King - Mor Dhona
Monarch Ogrefly - South Shroud
Myradrosh - Upper La Noscea
Naul - Coerthas Central Highlands
Ovjang - Central Thanalan
Phecda - North Shroud
Sewer Syrup - Western Thanalan
Skogs Fru - Middle La Noscea
Stinging Sophie - East Shroud
Vuokho - Outer La Noscea
White Joker - Central Shroud

If you slay all of these once then you will be awarded with
Mark of the Holt B - Black shroud Slay 4 different B ranks
Mark of the Desert B - Thanalan Slay 5 Different B ranks
Mark of the Sea B - La Nocsea Slay 6 Different B ranks
Mark of the lake B - Mor Dhona and Coerthas Central Highlands
if all of these are slayed you will earn the title: Hunter For Hire

well achievements with such high counters are meant to be long-term goals. i am pretty sure most people expect this game to be around for the next 5+ years.

instead i feel they should add on to the already regular dailies. they could include a enemy or two from a guildhest or two. and maybe even a enemy from a low-level instance that is NOT played directly through the main-scenario or side story.

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Originally Posted by BLaCKnBLu3B3RRY

well achievements with such high counters are meant to be long-term goals. i am pretty sure most people expect this game to be around for the next 5+ years....

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Not true, the archievement was designed when everyone killed many B ranks daily,
then B ranks nerfed, but the archievement requirement no update, obvioulsy the requirement has became a mistake now. ^^;

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Originally Posted by Nicobo

Not true, the archievement was designed when everyone killed many B ranks daily,
then B ranks nerfed, but the archievement requirement no update, obvioulsy the requirement has became a mistake now. ^^;

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lols. that doesn't even make sense. come on... it's a 1000 count ach. SE wouldn't even expect you to complete that in a week. you would have to be rather hardcore. and ach's are not just for the hardcore. either way, they are long term goals. if people choose to complete as fast as possible, that's their choice. but it's going to be boring! :P

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Originally Posted by BLaCKnBLu3B3RRY

lols. that doesn't even make sense. come on... it's a 1000 count ach. SE wouldn't even expect you to complete that in a week. you would have to be rather hardcore. and ach's are not just for the hardcore. either way, they are long term goals. if people choose to complete as fast as possible, that's their choice. but it's going to be boring! :P

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Um, I think it has became a mistake because logically unlocking S and A rank archievements should be harder,
however, unlocking B rank now has became stupid as it only "expects" you kill one B ecah week. ^^;

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Originally Posted by BLaCKnBLu3B3RRY

well achievements with such high counters are meant to be long-term goals. i am pretty sure most people expect this game to be around for the next 5+ years.

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But now that B ranks are a weekly hunt, one a week would take more like 20 years to reach 1000. MMOs should have long-term (even multi-year) goals, but even so, 20 years is a bit excessive.

I think it's interesting that OP thought (back when hunts were relevant) that B ranks were useless. People who hunted blew up everything, including B ranks, because those seals add up. Nothing was useless. You'd prioritize an A or an S over a B, sure, but you wouldn't just do nothing when no As or Ss were up - you'd kill Bs as you saw them.

That said, to bring this conversation into 2.45:

I wish there were no daily bill, and that the weekly bill became the new daily bill, letting you get 50 seals a day from killing B ranks each day. At least then you could farm up the seals needed for the frankly wildly overpriced vanity gear in a somewhat reasonable time frame.

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Originally Posted by Hiruke

I wish there were no daily bill, and that the weekly bill became the new daily bill, letting you get 50 seals a day from killing B ranks each day. At least then you could farm up the seals needed for the frankly wildly overpriced vanity gear in a somewhat reasonable time frame.

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Daily bills have a good use for people under level 50 to get a chance at SOME seals over time while still leveling up.
I'd personally like the "Daily" and "Weekly" parts removed and just let both be daily monster marks, and elite marks.

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Originally Posted by KikoriL

Daily bills have a good use for people under level 50 to get a chance at SOME seals over time while still leveling up.
I'd personally like the "Daily" and "Weekly" parts removed and just let both be daily monster marks, and elite marks.

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I think players need to complete a Lv50 quest to unlock hunts and seals? ^^;

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Originally Posted by Nicobo

I think players need to complete a Lv50 quest to unlock hunts and seals? ^^;

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You need to be level 50 to unlock the daily and weekly hunts, but once the feature is unlocked, you can do them with any job, including lower level ones. (Though for the weekly, you'd likely need help if below 50, or even newly 50 without a high iLvl weapon yet. A lot of the daily's, though, can reasonably be soloed on jobs you're still leveling.)

Allied Seals don't need to be unlocked, as you can do A and S rank hunts at any level.
(Once when I was on a new alt who must have been around level 10 or 12 at the time on her only unlocked class, an S rank spawned almost right next to me, so I joined in when the crowd gathered to kill it. I got I think it was 2 myth tomes and 1 or 2 allied seals, even though I'm sure that as a solo low-level character my damage was pretty insignificant compared to everyone else.)

ah! i do see what is being said now. but personally can't think of any good solution or compromise, though. something like what C0mb says may work. but i think hunting 5 B ranks daily is too much. we also wouldn't want the easier marks to be completely replaced. just append the B rank to the current bills. and remove the B ranks from the weekly, or leave them it really would be fine. if left on the weekly slot, maybe give A's and S's a slightly higher chance to be the weekly. also 50 seals per day is awesome, but way too much. so the B rank would have to give less seals, for the daily bill that is.

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Originally Posted by Niwashi

.... Though for the weekly, you'd likely need help if below 50...

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Thanks for your explaination. But why not switch to Lv50job before the fight?

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Originally Posted by BLaCKnBLu3B3RRY

ah! i do see what is being said now. but personally can't think of any good solution or compromise, though. something like what C0mb says may work. but i think hunting 5 B ranks daily is too much. we also wouldn't want the easier marks to be completely replaced. just append the B rank to the current bills. and remove the B ranks from the weekly, or leave them it really would be fine. if left on the weekly slot, maybe give A's and S's a slightly higher chance to be the weekly. also 50 seals per day is awesome, but way too much. so the B rank would have to give less seals, for the daily bill that is.

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I just think now the achievements for S/A/B are not balance.

Now killing 1000 B just for achivement but no 1gil,
it is not the original intended design, it has became a mis-config now!

My suggestion :
Simply, change achievement "killed" to "found" would be good ^^;
So you don't need waste few min. to spam button tediously to have it "killed"
but just click to have it "found".
Ofcoz, if you want to have "found" more frequently, you can kill it and "found" the new spawn again after 5sec.

It is a QoL suggestion.