Okay, this isn't for me because I could care less about this, but I have friends who are really upset their standings are public and they don't want them to be. Understandably so especially if you're in a crappy GC where if its not good, those players may not want them showing at all. Some people just don't want to be displayed and I think personally they should have the right to do so. Especially since we do have the choice to have all our other info on Lodestone private or public.
Thoughts?
Making Standings Optionally Private or Public
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08-29-2014, 06:18 AMGorMaking Standings Optionally Private or Public
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08-29-2014, 06:22 AMOdd
Yikes! You mean other people can see my lousy Frontlines record? I didn't know that.
I'm all for being able to make this private, if we choose. -
08-29-2014, 07:55 AMMomomiMomi
This should definitely be an option. I don't care much myself, but I understand some people do.
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08-31-2014, 06:26 PMrex1976
immortal flames thread? you guys are going to need to hide your GC in order to hide how bad you are at frontlines lol. seriously though i don't think they should be hidden, i like to know if a flame has joined the maelstrom and looking at record is the only way to know, then i can coach him a little and teach him how to be a winner. if it's a secret i might not know he is the problem. then again if it's hidden i'll know he is flames so don't matter to me really. closet flamers? lol
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08-31-2014, 11:18 PMStormrider
It is a team game. You could be the best (insert class) out of every server. You still may lose every game. It is nice to congratulate people on wins. But anyone who truly picks on someone for losses is a little challenged.
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09-01-2014, 11:47 AMrex1976it's no one person's fault the flames are bad. very bad. frustratingly bad. when adders are ahead of us by 100 early in match flames will attack us to play for 2nd bad. sometimes they will ignore either us or adders and play for second place from the start of the match bad. i've litterally seen them take 1st one time in about 100 matches no exaduration bad. flames are so bad that they can pretty much be ignored the whole game bad. idk how it is possible for them to be so bad, sometimes i think they are just trolling each other. there's no semblence of common sence in their strategy if you can call it that bad.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stormrider
as a result of the flames being bad if you had the misfortune of joining them your record is not your fault. just because your record is bad doesnt mean that you are bad at frontlines, it just means you are immortal flames GC. conversly because the flames are so bad if you are adders or maelstrom and your record is good it doesnt mean that you are good, because flames win 1-5% adder or maelstrom are 47-49% 1st place meaning that if you are adder or maelstrom anything under 50% firsts is bad, if it is lower you might be bad. my god flames are bad.
flames please start some linkshells and premake some parties get some TS going make it a 3 horse race as it is intended -
09-01-2014, 12:41 PMtehomegaking
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Flames have now over taking adder on primal. -
09-01-2014, 10:34 PMGori swapped from storm to flames for the sake of getting more q pops. the flames are bad for several reasons:Quote:
Originally Posted by rex1976
1. they don't know how to play the battleground. simple as that.
they have players calling out wrong shots and everyone actually listens which is why they lose. i was in a 48 man where someone tells everyone to go mid. i had to cut him off and tell people to ignore him and just go flags; amazingly people listened to me and got out mid, captured flags and we won that game. twice in other games, someone yelled out, camp maelstrom spawn point!, people listened, we lost because of that. there are other times where people made bad calls such as in a 72man game, someone yelled out to ignore mid the whole game. i was too exhausted to even care to respond to tell people the right thing to do. we lost that game because players listened and ignored mid. whole alliances fighting for irrelevant flags. fighting at mid when there ain't even any drones up there.
2. just bad players. players coming in the bg with an average ilvl of 50 expecting to get a carry. tanks geared vit. i can't count the times i've seen Full Swing up on enemy tanks while there is still an enemy healer up. just overall bad playing. dps with no output. having no healer in their group ... and not respeccing so that alliance continuously wipes and achieves nothing. bad healers that just manage to die die die. i'd be rich if i got a quarter for every time i've seen a WHM spamming Medica IIs .... while being out of range of healing his group so he was only healing himself. dps that doesn't focus on healers so they spend 10 minutes fighting at a base they don't even own and then at the end they're like aww we lost, gg. NO that was not a gg, it was pure fail.
3. they don't try and intentionally strive for second place. many games i have gone in, its like they intentionally strive for second because the mindset they go in there with is that Maelstrom is going to win anyways so why bother, at least get second. when i see someone say this, it just burns me up inside because they don't even try.
my deduction is Flames just doesn't give a shit and there is nothing that can be done to help them. there have been several games where i tell which groups to go where, i get told to shutup and then kicked from the game.
they're not even Carebears ... they are just WeDontCareBears. you try to help them, and they will report you for harassment because they think you're being a dick by telling them what to do. the only times i've seen Flames win hardcore is at night when i see players like me, good-players, Maelstrom transfers who got sick of the wait times on Maelstrom and came to Flames for faster pops and hitting r40 on gc achievements. Pretty much, the majority of the games I suspect we do win are either because Adder and Maelstrom had worse derps than Flames did, or other GC transfers and premades who are carrying Flames.
i have fallen 8% in my win-rate since transferring to Flames. i'm not mad because i don't care about the win rate since i know its a bs stat, but that is just to show far bad they are. i should hit rank 40 before my 2 week swap lockout is up, but i'm probably going to be swapping back to Maelstrom.
Raubahn cries in his chambers at nightQuote:
Originally Posted by rex1976
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09-01-2014, 11:40 PMSessurea
How can people even remotely care about a win/lose ratio in a huge BG where it's the case of " go to this GC, it always wins" I'd respect the underdog in this case more than someone in the lolwin team. Really "winning" in frontlines is a very strong usage of the word in all honesty. Even pvp "ranks" aren't actually ranks in the competitive sense, but more like just a dumb old level up to wear better gears situation like in pve. Rank should have to be maintained, not something u get and then have forever.
TL: DR don't treat win/losing in FL so seriously. Nobody cares. -
09-01-2014, 11:50 PMBuffelnSums it up preciselyQuote:
Originally Posted by Gor
Everytime i play FL as an Immortal Flame I always feel like this even before the match has begun..
http://loldailyfun.com/wp-content/up...12/my-team.jpg -
09-02-2014, 01:07 AMHouston009
I feel bad for the Flames in your guys' Datacenter T^T
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09-02-2014, 01:12 AMCopestetic
Wish I had the Adders you guys are talking about here on Aether.
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09-02-2014, 05:36 AMGoryou'd be surprised. a lot of people care even to the point where they have stopped playing FL altogether because they are on Flames which has the highest chance of losing on my data center and they don't want to start over with another gc because they don't want to get gimped pvp skills or lose their pvp gear since they are r40. they don't want to "ruin" their win rate. no matter how hard I tried to explain to them that the win rates tell nothing more than what gc has a higher chance of winning on the datacenter and reflects nothing personally about them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sessurea
imho, those standings were a bad idea. people with gaming OCD (people who are obsessed in having perfect or near perfect scores and stats in any game they play) are raging over it. i've seen a few slightly heated debates about it a few times in my linkshell. try telling someone with OCD not to straighten a crooked book on a shelf and they will rage over it because its serious to them that that book is not in order. to you and I its something meaningless and pointless, but to a person obsessed with perfection it means all the world to them and they'd rather not be shown in the standings at all rather than being shown with low or bad stats that they have no control over. -
09-02-2014, 07:20 AMUltimatecalibur
Winds seem to shift on Aether, from what I saw 4 weeks ago Maelstrom was a monster, the two weeks after Immortal Flames were an inferno and now this week Adders had their A game on.
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09-02-2014, 09:02 AMAtreusGC hoppers. Also pretty sure free-login has brought in a surge of bads this past week.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ultimatecalibur
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09-02-2014, 09:36 AMGorI don't. They choose to be bad so they are getting what bad players deserve; play stupid games ... win stupid prizes. I feel no sympathy for them whatsoever; the only sympathy i have is for the good players on Flames who try to play to win but get outnumbered by the failures and thanks to SE they are permanently locked into fail unless they suffer thru moving to another gc. the gc swap lockout is understandable if one is doing it out of luxury, but at this point players are swapping out of misery because they know they are locked into Immortal Fails so rather than swapping and losing everything, they just quit FL altogether.Quote:
Originally Posted by Houston009
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09-02-2014, 10:18 AMSkeet
I rarely queue for FL solo as a Flames. It gets pretty depressing...pretty fast. The pseudo-intellects shouting the most absurd instructions always baffle my mind.
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09-02-2014, 12:53 PMSessurea
the need to ditch this GC division in pvp, and they aren't stupid, it'll happen eventually. Should just be 3 random teams in a BG and screw the lore.
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09-02-2014, 03:22 PMrex1976agreed. i feel bad for the good players on the flames sometimes. the pre formed parties with TS would still kill every map though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sessurea
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09-02-2014, 04:37 PMTitor
I am on flames and really like it. I get a win/loss ratio over 33%, which is good for me, which is basically having a equal chance with the other GC's to come in first (Basically like rolling a D3 and hoping for a 1)
Seems even to me, or this number would be really skewed. -
09-02-2014, 11:34 PMGoragreed. the populations are just too lopsided making the queues longer on top of if you're on certain gc's it is already a given that you will lose or win based on which is the strongest (or weakest) on your dc and not because its actually one group against another group. only crazy people do the same thing and expect different results. who wants to keep playin a bg where you get grouped with the same derps every damn time and lose every damn time because of the same bad players? nobody. its not even a fair or equal chance at winning.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sessurea
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09-03-2014, 06:22 AMAvirex92
I had no idea you could see standings, where do you see this???
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09-03-2014, 06:43 AMGorif you are in the top 100 in any of the stats everyone can see itQuote:
Originally Posted by Avirex92
http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/ranking/ -
09-03-2014, 11:02 AMAvirex92nice, thanks so much, doing better then i'd have guessed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gor
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09-04-2014, 04:31 PMBuffeln
Aww yes! new week on the FL ladder! will win it with my awesome stats that i am so proud of
10 FL
0 wins
4 second place
6 third place
Hopefully I can get 3 wins before tuesday! GO IF GOOOOOO!