I'm not here to complain about any specific changes. However, sometimes I feel like SE implements things that could've been finely tuned if they had people test it that weren't their own staff. A public test realm would benefit the player base and SE itself.
Please create a public test realm.
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08-19-2014, 03:32 PMBarimuPlease create a public test realm.
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08-19-2014, 04:39 PMTitor
I agree. I do not see the reason for hiding the patch notes for so long.
Yeah it will make the market go crazy, but the market goes crazy anyway. -
08-19-2014, 04:50 PMShori
aye, alot of changes were made between beta / open beta / and release. i think their staff forget how people want to play, or just have very different styles to us, and they also the know mechanics of fights first time.
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08-19-2014, 04:56 PMThomasGallant
I guess some companies decide against public test servers. I'm guessing it's largely because 99% of public test server people (and I'll have to include myself in this if I want to be honest) use it as a "preview" server and and almost never report bug or offer feedback other that "I hate this nerf".
So the incentives can be a bit, underwhelming at times. -
08-19-2014, 05:03 PMZumi
They did this for FFXI and there was like 1-3 people on it at a time. Wasn't much interest it seems.
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08-19-2014, 05:10 PMtOnni3
Release patch note early, PTR will greatly impact in market situation.
Ppl who first access to this information will take advantage by stock piling materials for selling in next patch.
In example : Yukata event, Spring Skirt and its material's price has sky rocketting cuz event gear is short skrit but ppl wants long skirt. -
08-19-2014, 05:15 PMNoshpan
Also known as "Preview this new shit and then complain when it's completed too quickly when it's live because I already practiced this servers"
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08-19-2014, 05:51 PMDravionThis is all it would turn into.Quote:
Originally Posted by Noshpan
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08-20-2014, 02:48 AMBarimuStill feel it would benefit it a lot. Instead of all these patches that come out to fix stuff they screwed up they can fix it before that patchQuote:
Originally Posted by Dravion
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08-20-2014, 03:07 AMErrors
Test servers where you rely on user input to better the game is a fallacy.
You have a QA team to test patches on a test server. Having a user base as a "QA team" is nothing but a huge group of people complaining they don't like the new content, fixes, patches.
People use it as "look at the new content I get access to first!"
People use it as "this updates suck!"
People use it as "why isn't this live yet?!"
People use it as "let me post screenshots of all the new content!"
What people should be using it as, "hey X is broken when I do Z".
Source: Ran test server, been part of public test groups. -
08-20-2014, 03:07 AMTeirshin
As I've said many times on these forums, RIFT used test servers to great success.
I wouldnt discount them until you give the playerbase a chance to make use of them.
Though the people here... are nowhere as social as the people in RIFT imho.... so perhaps it wouldnt work. The sheer amount of vitriol here is just insane.
And for those less schooled....
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vit·ri·ol
noun
1. cruel and bitter criticism.
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08-20-2014, 03:12 AMTeirshinAnd you represent about 0.000000000000173% of the playerbase, so your "results" are negligible.Quote:
Originally Posted by Errors
The track record of RIFT's test server would beg to differ.
Given the right playerbase, it benefits everyone. -
08-20-2014, 07:03 AMBarimuExactly, everyone puts like 5 people as the playerbase lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Teirshin
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08-20-2014, 07:49 AMBaneusSo then; please define the "right" playerbase. Keeping in mind that the average MMO player is the same in every MMO (regardless of opinion).Quote:
Originally Posted by Teirshin