How to make Jenova Great i.e. What makes a good server?

Hello everyone. How are you?

I am new to FFXIV being that I only started 25 days ago and am curious on what people think. How can we make Jenova the best server on Aether and then in Eorzea?

The question that really needs to be answered is what makes a good server?

I think there are many factors that come into play. One being the kindness of players on the server. If nobody is nice, why wouldn't they just world transfer?

Another big thing is number of powerful players and also number of new players. Just as having an aging population or too many babies is not good for the entire population [in the short run] in real life, if there are too many senior(aka Bahamut or Higher) players, then people starting on the server will wait forever for someone to enter Tam-Tam and the same goes for if there are too many new players (then other players wait too long for Syrcus Tower or Coil).

[I might be wrong about this because maybe dungeons take people from the entire data center and not just the server...I'm not too sure yet...]

I was just reading a lot of posts from this group(Akuma_Oni seems to have some strong opinions on this, please tell us what you think here again please^^) and was wondering what everyone else thinks.

Maybe I should be thinking more long-term so that is why I am asking for your help. I was hoping we could use this thread to bounce ideas off on each other and make this server even more awesome than it already is!

Maybe I should be thinking more long-term so that is why I am asking for your help. I was hoping we could use this thread to bounce ideas off on each other and make this server even more awesome than it already is!

I left Jenova for Gilgamesh, I'm coming back in the expansion release to bring some RP.

they pull from the datacenter for instances, not just the world. progression is also a good thing, activity, too many times have i seen PF for experienced players only, and nothing for practice, making a lot of the endgame quite hostile to new players, because the new isnt tolerated

I left Jenova for Phoenix Eu.

Jenova - Not enough activity. Not enough people running all aspects of end-game, (or where there are, they are closed groups or "must have kill exp" etc, how is someone supposed to progress that way?). Market prices were SERIOUSLY insane. 699k for 1 control IV when i left.. no thanks. Smaller number of master crafters controlling high end prices, MASSIVE amounts of undercuts (yes, it goes on everywhere but so so bad there.) Basically, wasn't the server for me.

One thing about Jenova is that it is the lowest populated server to date. I agree it is hard to understand how people expect to get groups of experienced players for PF when they won't help newer people learn fights. This and the fact that it falls into the group of servers that were added during the PS4 launch means that the number of people able to craft or easily access higher tier gear is limited making the prices skyrocket. Once the world gets a little more progressed prices should settle down some and groups, hopefully, should be easier to come by.

The server is new. I am constantly helping people do raids. But I want people under our banner so we can be closely knit. All I want in return is gear and help for a mansion since I don't craft :s. Been already 1 month trying to help Server

There is no PF activity on Jenova whatsoever.

It's a bit silly for some of you to compare a new (about 4 months old) server to an older one. Do you really expect the economy to be stable right away? Since the server launched with the PS4, a lot here are console players who are new to MMO's. Speaking for myself, but I'm sure there are plenty others who play similarly.. we grew up playing FF for the story, so we tend to take our time and not just rush rush rush into end game. Give it some time. I've already noticed the PF being more active lately with EX primals and Coil parties. And I get that some people just want to do constant end game farming, and this may not be the best server for you, but the server won't flourish, if everyone is so quick to not give it a chance. One thing I do notice tho (just from my experience and originally coming from Leviathan), that the people here are generally pretty nice and there are less elitists. It's possible that will change as the server matures, but for now, I enjoy the atmosphere here more.

jaydee, i can understand your point, i'm also a long time FF player myself. I also played FFXIV at PS3 release.
For me, I 'gave it time'. I gave it roughly just after the release of the server, and was more than patient to wait and see how things went. They got worse, I moved. Choice. It wasn't an easy decision, nor was it hasty.

One thing I WILL say, in comparison to the server i'm on now, people are very nice on Jenova. Seriously guys, the civility in hunts? Keep it going for as long as possible, because when it descends to an asshat zergfest where noone takes any other players into consideration, that's where you'll be thinking "damn i wish it was quiet again".

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Originally Posted by Divine_Intervention

...when it descends to an asshat zergfest...

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Do you mean in regards to early pulls or lack of raising? Just out of curiosity.

So thank you for your ideas. Every single one is a great consideration which we should be aware of moving forward.

Now I would like everyone to think about what things they would like to avoid the server becoming. (I.e. asshat zergfest for example) just so we (more like I though...><) know what not to do when we reach end game. If we can avoid these, maybe people will hear about how nice our servers are and migrate.

I'm aware so far of the importance of skipping cut scenes. I read the entire thread where a poster named Zeenda ended up complaining about his/her experience on an end game dungeon and I don't want this thread to descend into one like that.

Thank you ^_^

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Originally Posted by Miyu20

Now I would like everyone to think about what things they would like to avoid the server becoming. (I.e. asshat zergfest for example) just so we (more like I though...><) know what not to do when we reach end game. If we can avoid these, maybe people will hear about how nice our servers are and migrate.

Thank you ^_^

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just try not to burn yourself out with the grind.. as that will just make you jaded. i see so many people just rush through the game to get ilvl1million and become an elitist jerk in the process. luckily the server doesn't have too many of those types of players yet. the ones who have become like this, have either quit the game or transferred to an older server.

FYI, i had to put this down for some reasons, I just understood.

I have to say that you guys are awsome. I am a final fantasy fan not an MMORPG veterain, so i played ARR as a final fantasy game. What ppl miss are the charecter developments with other NPC's and the role playing (just something i enjoy doing on all ff games) that comes with this. I started over on ps4 bc ppl just want to get to the the end game content and me being one of those ppl that has to read everything and admire scenery, ruined my first couple of months experience and not to mention, them flying thru duengeons trying to hurry everyone up, where im just looking at the beauty of what the game is offering. The server Jenova is slow and steady, and i love it. no one hassels me to hurry up, everyone is nice (keep in mind i am no where near end game) and overall i am having fun. Jenova is a right fit for any true Final Fantasy fan that treats it as just another edition to the franchise and not an MMO. Thanks for the good reads, hope to see Jenova on charts in the future.

miyu! >< i didnt notice you were the one who started the thread. sad day that i wont be on for a few days :'(

i moved my alt over to zalera, and im liking what im seeing over there, got into a new fc, and i shouted in mordhona for help with the lightning fates, which i got 2 very well geared lv 50s to help me out, i think i would have gotten more on jenova, but it seems like the people on jenova are generally better when it comes to attitudes.

i also came into this game with absolutely no mmo experience. i hadbasic concepts from the role setups in 13, but had no actual knowledge of how mmos worked. i started off as a gladiator and got to lv 16, never went into adungeon, and realized that i was a tank through the class quest dialogue. i promptly restarted as an arcansit, and i didnt like the cat person i made, so i made another a lancer. nobody told me you can switch classes in this game. and this was with ps3. came back a few months later for the early release for ps4. thanks to all the help i recieved from people in the last 2 FCs i was in, and randoms that i was partied with in DF, i have succesfultty cleared all but ramuh EX and have made it to T5. i can have a good discussion about the 3 roles i mostly play PLD, WHM, BLM.

Greetings from Brynhildr, another sleepy server predominantly composed of PS4 players.

Jenova's small, and it'll always be that way. The trick is that this is as much a blessing as it is a curse.
A smaller, more tight-knit community allows you to control things like Hunts, creating server-spanning linkshells that ensure folks wait to pull or get kicked from groups. On bigger servers like Excal or Sarg, folks discover an A or S rank, pull it instantly and then kite in circles while they shout about it and inform others. They get full credit for tagging it, and only the first few dozen people who show up are lucky enough to get allied seals.

In the same vein, you won't have to lose long-term friends to your competitor raiding FCs, because there's likely to only be a handful of groups tackling content. Getting T9 down is going to be a mark of success that people will know you for across the server, not just YET ANOTHER player with a high allagan weapon.

To succeed, build your community. Make Jenova a place where people help each other succeed instead of stepping on the backs of their fallen friends to climb higher.

Use the party finder. This server is full of people either content with just mind numbing hunting, or just flat out can't get acess to the harder parts of the game (scob). Challenge yourself don't be so timid, nothing is too hard in this game with a little cordination. Also it is alot more gratifying to down something that is semi challenging, then to sit around waiting for the next zerg fest aka hunt. Go wipe, get back up,learn, rinse and repeat till its dead. Also know one should be an elitest tbh even if ur ilvl300 proves nothing to your skill set. Just tells me you play alot and hunt. I would rather play with a I85 player then a I107 who can't comprehend how too execute properly. My 2 cents.

Jenova just doesn't have anything. I was looking to join a new server a few weeks ago because how bad the server is. The interactions between players is abysmal at best, unless hunting. There is not even any PF, hardly anyone is crafting/gathering for the community, it all goes straight to the MB. The server also feels like it's controlled by the major FCs, who all happened to use other game titles as their FC name just to get people to join, you can log in and see tons of Zelda FCs or Metal Gear FCs, but anything original usual doesn't pick up and fails.

We just need player interactions, you can go stand in Mor Dhona and hardly anyone will talk about things and only one or two people shouting PF, which is usually for primal ex kill experience required. That hurts our server if we can't even teach one another how to beat something. If anything could fix it I'd like to know.

I wish I could move to Jenova My FC wants to get off of Excalibur so bad this is the worst server persiod people threaten you when you log in and try to do anything they can to piss off and spit on everyone nobody helps you wait 4 hours in PF to get a group and they rage quit if you wipe once. I can't wait till Jenova opens up all us ilvl 100+ people will help the server flourish.

I left this server a few days ago. Now I have already cleared my Turns 6-8 and about to finish 9.

If you are looking to join this Server please note, its a ghost town. Compared to the other servers, this server was an emergency server for the PS4 release.

So everything is out of whack. Nice people, but the people who cleared the turns "except" T9, think they are elitists, even though I out DPS the hell out of them.

Congrats nM on the Turn 9 clear yesterday ;)

I personally can appreciate being on Jenova, as a newish player. I can gather stuff and sell it, usually without getting instantly undercut, and personal housing is plentiful (we dodged a bullet!). I kind of wish there was more pf activity (I can almost never find fellow people in urths gift to help with spiritbonding) but my FC, Moogle Mob, is amazing, and I love all of them.

Best server for community!

I can say now that my FC Memoria is on this server now, things will improve we bring to the table the things that guilds used to be back in the day, loyalty, companionship and group effort. So if anyone wants to be a part of a truly good group of nice people consider joining Memoria. We don't tolerate jerks. lol

psst I made a Facebook Group since this is one of the few servers that didnt already have one https://www.facebook.com/groups/1531185833795285/

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Originally Posted by tocsin

Best server for community!

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I'm finding it the opposite. I'm having a lot of trouble finding a FC that's what I'm looking for. There's a lot of disorganized, super-casual ones and a lot of them that are either extremely tiny or aren't very active. There are also quite a few zergs spamming me with invites whenever I'm in a major city. Established, medium size, organized, hardcore FC's seem to be nonexistent.

lol on the contrary I run a medium sized, organized FC however we are not hard core. we invite players of all ranks and abilities so there is always something to do for everyone and not just T9 or Final Coil all day. Rather than people getting burned out with instant self gratification my FC provides companionship and a laid back social group for everyone to be involed in. We even make up jumping puzzle events etc just for shits and giggles because there is more to do than just grind grind grind. I have noticed that the common ground people have here is that this is in no way a hard core server. most of these people are in fact just looking to have a good time at their own pace. and I like that about this community.