Ninja Novus Weapon

Trying to peer into my crystal ball the best way I can and utilizing the best logic I can muster. I've been trying to figure out which two stats Ninja would use on its Novus weapon based on what's been shown so far. I suppose one could put Crit and Determination on it, but looking at the mudra seals, perhaps Skill Speed will be an important stat to have ? What two stats do you guys think (based off what we've seen) would make the best Ninja Novus Weapon ?

Crit and Skill Speed.
Hit so fast and often that the higher odds of crits will pay off.
And skill speed for lulspeed.

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Originally Posted by Tsuwu

Crit and Skill Speed.
Hit so fast and often that the higher odds of crits will pay off.
And skill speed for lulspeed.

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Sounds great. Here's hoping some of the skills are multihit attacks, such as the Shuriken rain, which would drive this point home.

If you're trying to plan for it, collect crit and det.
If it turns out other stats are more useful, those should still sell for more than other materia.

So you should instead concentrate on getting the oil for base relic, 3 mists for zenithing, 12 atma, make sure myth and sold are capped or near capped when 2.4 hits so you can start buying books asap, buy the 3 inks for novus scroll, and collect 75 alexandrites.

Or an UAT+Sand+10xRowena's Token (soldiery) for i110 weapon that you can use from the moment you hit 50 without going through relic quest.

Det and crit, because rog is fast "auto" attacker & poison user, poison is most likely DoT and skill speed doesnt affect auto attack and DoT.
maype Spell speed for ninjutsu (BRD's song cast time is affected by spell speed and not skill speed)

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Originally Posted by Nekodar

buy the 3 inks for novus scroll, and collect 75 alexandrites.

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can be done before patch if you already have a animus weapon

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Originally Posted by Hik0

can be done before patch if you already have a animus weapon

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Well, that's what I meant... Collect as much as possible now. Wording may be poor, but that was what I meant.

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Originally Posted by Tsuwu

Crit and Skill Speed.
Hit so fast and often that the higher odds of crits will pay off.
And skill speed for lulspeed.

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But that's not really how it works. Crit as a % increase in dps works exactly the same no matter if you attack quickly or slowly since it will apply the same proportion of extra damage.
Point for point you'll get more damage with det than with crit unless there's some kind of crit-based proc or other manipulation of crit.

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Originally Posted by Nekodar

So you should instead concentrate on getting the oil for base relic (done), 3 mists for zenithing (done), 12 atma (in progress), make sure myth and sold are capped or near capped when 2.4 hits so you can start buying books asap (should be possible), buy the 3 inks for novus scroll (1500 myth no biggie), and collect 75 alexandrites (in progress after my Curtana).

Or an UAT (ST <3) +Sand (In progress, ty hunts) +10xRowena's Token (soldiery) (Have them)for i110 weapon that you can use from the moment you hit 50 without going through relic quest.

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And I thought I was the only one with this plan.. >.<

That Ninja won't ever see what's waiting for him (Friend's Circlet For The Win!) <-- work in progress ^^

If the jutsu seals are a GCD then skill speed might actually be a very viable option because as far as we know they do not have a grease lightning effect. So I wouldn't knock skill speed out of the running yet.

Crit+Det just like any other DD as long as the Acc is high enough.
Skillspeed will drain your TP too fast -> see MNK

It's sad that there is so little room for playing around with stats because most of them are pretty much useless.
So, I'd love to be wrong about the Crit+Det, but seeing how simple SE is designing the game, I don't want to get my hopes up.

I already have everything up to Atma weapon stashed away on a retainer. Been collecting alex and crit+det materia for the time being.

In terms of my preparation, I have: Radz-at-Han Quenching Oil, all 12 Atma, 3 Thavnairian Mist, 2 Materia of each type (since I don't know which 2 Materia they'll want), and 3 Superior Enchanted Ink sitting on a retainer. Currently working on getting the Alexandrite to stuff on there too. As for the materia, I think Skill Speed is still a point of interest because it doesn't seem like the mudra seals use TP at all. Only the physical attacks. And it appears that if you can do the mudra signs faster, you can cast more ninjutsu spells in a period of time ?

It could also be that they are considered "spells" so you would want spell speed instead of skill speed. I guess it could go either way.

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Originally Posted by Nekodar

Or an UAT+Sand+10xRowena's Token (soldiery) for i110 weapon that you can use from the moment you hit 50 without going through relic quest.

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This is part of the trouble with being able to be all classes on one character. We won't even get into how having your job share the same level as the class just adds to it.

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Originally Posted by TheRogueX

This is part of the trouble with being able to be all classes on one character. We won't even get into how having your job share the same level as the class just adds to it.

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Im not following. What does that have to do with what materias would be the most beneficial to Ninja?


EDIT: I just read that and it sounds kinda rude, that was not my intention lol.

I'm glad to see other people stash the items needed for the ninja relic weapon upgrade quest line like I am but for me my ninja will only get to animus. Because I plan on slowly working on having the 4 other classes/jobs that I like get there animus first, since I already got my bards novus and my smn to animus now it the long atma grind for my mnk and drg.

Yeah, I started stockpiling for Ninja when it was announced. I'm currently at 12 atma, 3 inks, 3 oils, 1 mist, 47/75 Alex, 3 sands/1 oil, and a ton of materia for melding (I SB atleast 3 times a week). Having such long term goals has actually made gameplay for me much more enjoyable.