Why do dungeons drop crafting materials in place of loot rather than alongside it?

Stone Vigil HM Run -

First Boss - Aqueous Whetstone
Second Boss - Aqueous Whetstone x2
Final Boss - Cooking Sherry

Seriously, why can't we just run dungeons and actually have the expectation that we'll actually get some of the new sets instead of "Oh, some crafting material that most people can't even use which isn't even worth that much by itself".

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Originally Posted by Grekumah

Greetings Dungeon Masters,

In case you missed this answer from the latest Letter from the Producer LIVE (don’t worry, the full Q&A is coming soon!), we wanted to let you know that Yoshida said that he’s aware of the desire to see more gear dropping in dungeons and is planning on talking with the team about adjusting this!

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Don't forget about that filtered water! Gotta stay hydrated!

Squirtle.

Oh nice. I'm glad it's being addressed. I hope they don't take the crafting materials out entirely (I'm one of those weirdoes that doesn't mind getting them) but rather leaves them in dropping alongside gear. As much as I like getting a few coke/animal fat/etc from a dungeon, I have to say there is nothing quite so disappointing than beating the boss, opening the chest, and finding that pirates were there before you and left their cooking sherry behind. I guess it was too nasty for even them to drink. :c

cause the whetstones are worth 5k each and it's a lot better then getting the gear to turn into seals. 2500>900

i personally like the material drops course i do like loot drops too i find it perfectly balanced. hack right now filtered water is worth 2k on my server.

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Originally Posted by Musashidon

cause the whetstones are worth 5k each and it's a lot better then getting the gear to turn into seals. 2500>900

i personally like the material drops course i do like loot drops too i find it perfectly balanced. hack right now filtered water is worth 2k on my server.

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Yeah some items are expensive, the others are worthless, but you can't buy this vanity, so gear > craft items.

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Originally Posted by lololink

Yeah some items are expensive, the others are worthless, but you can't buy this vanity, so gear > craft items.

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gil>vanity

really it's all about opinion here. i personally like the drops i have no care for wearing gear for looks and the mats make a lot of money so obviously the mats win for me but for others like you said vanity is more important then making money.

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Originally Posted by Musashidon

gil>vanity

really it's all about opinion here. i personally like the drops i have no care for wearing gear for looks and the mats make a lot of money so obviously the mats win for me but for others like you said vanity is more important then making money.

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Well that is indeed your opinion, as most people don't want useless crap dropping in place of gear. as it was not like this at first. It's not about vanity being "more important then making money" it's that people have better, more effective ways of making gill then hoping they win some dungeons crafting materials over the 3 other lots they have to compete with vs the 1 thousand other items on the market board, this is rather low, ineffective way of making gill vs...spirit bonding for example. It needs to go.

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Originally Posted by Shougun

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Don't forget about that filtered water! Gotta stay hydrated!

Squirtle.

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You forgot this under your quote.

http://img2.finalfantasyxiv.com/acci...ed884afd13.jpg

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Originally Posted by Musashidon

gil>vanity

really it's all about opinion here. i personally like the drops i have no care for wearing gear for looks and the mats make a lot of money so obviously the mats win for me but for others like you said vanity is more important then making money.

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Gear > Vanity = Gil, if you ask me.

The fact is that some people can use the gear, and that's the most important thing. Second, that gear can't be gotten anywhere else while there are ways to get those seal materials you want to sell. It's fine to want to sell seal materials, but that desire certainly shouldn't overrun people's desire to get the thing that can only be gotten from the dungeon, especially if they actually need it. You can get seal materials from ventures, desynths, and of course buying with seals, which you can get by turning in the gear from the dungeon. Sure, it's not as instant and great as a single dungeon drop but it's actually better if you ask me, because you can cherry pick whichever seal mat is worth the most at the time.

Instead of Sherry. I get a lot of Sherry.

Getting gear for people who need it should always be the most important thing.

I hate those drops I can just buy them on the marketboard every time I just pass on those items

What I'm surprised about is that why can't you, after clearing a dungeon, be allowed to swap to gatherer and gather in the dungeon? In which those nodes don't have respawns on them but each person gets a full attempt per node before they vanish.

Even if your primary concern is crafting materials, it's still better for gear to drop. For one, being able to get a guaranteed 900 seals to put toward a material of your choosing is better than getting garbage like filtered water or cooking sherry or any of the other relatively worthless mats that can drop alongside potash or coke. Secondly, gear can be desynthed; battlecraft materia III > any philo mat.

I agree with this thread. I mean, look at ST for example. The final boss always drops 1 piece of gear no matter what, but there is also a chance that UAT and/or an Oil of Time will drop with that piece of gear. So why can't dungeon bosses have chests that work in the same manner? Always dropping one piece of gear, while possibly dropping a random crafting material as well?

This works in ST, so why can it not be applied to normal dungeon loot?

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Originally Posted by Gormogon

What I'm surprised about is that why can't you, after clearing a dungeon, be allowed to swap to gatherer and gather in the dungeon? In which those nodes don't have respawns on them but each person gets a full attempt per node before they vanish.

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I liked to play "The last Remnant" :)
Clearing then searching, then collecting...

Excellent Idea, Gear drop for bosses and some % chance some mat drops too.

Easy solution:

Every boss drop 2-5 varied chests, like FFXIV 1.23. Gold chest = gear, silver chest = gear/weapons, black chests craft mats and other items.