Retainer Ventures...

(Great i messed up the title...my bad for crappy typo, any Forum rep wanna fix my typo please?) Edit: ( Thank You ! )
- meh, lets just call it "i got the forum lisp"

So yeah, is there really nothing else that my retainer can find but the following?

Lv.50 Field Exploration XIV - Archer
4x Allagan Silver Piece
3x Hippogryph Skin (HQ)

I've had this for serveral days straight now...

Lv.50 Highland Exploration XIV - Miner
4x Allagan Silver Piece
3x Gold Ore (HQ) (it's either this or Volcanic Rocksalt)

There must be something more usefull available at this difficulty right? :confused:

I mean if there's nothing else to be found "randomly", it's
really pointless to even bother sending out the retainer for
18 hours and come back with something i can gather myself
within much less time.

Tiny Tapir, the minion is the only other thing I'm aware of. They are pretty worthless otherwise.

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Originally Posted by Tiraelina

Tiny Tapir, the minion is the only other thing I'm aware of. They are pretty worthless otherwise.

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Yeah i heard a friend got this one, so thats the only reason i sent my retainers out..but well... nothing yet

Mine brings me back nothing but skins....

I got meat on my first attempt (WHM retainer :p), but yesterday got the minion and regretted not selling it since it was hella expensive.

My fisher has brought me back 2 young water lilies, which are about 200k a piece. But mostly, it's just junk. :P

I receive a number of mossy weapons as well fairly often from this level of venture.

Venture loot need serious reworking, imo. And it's not even a question of adding more items, rather removing a buttload of them. And seriously, stop the madness of DoW/DoM retainers bringing back one piece of fish. Like what the heck. Make the "junk" loot be crafted mats (lumbers, leathers, etc - things that are either unobtainable until a certain level in a certain class and/or are sold only in 60-99 bunches for stellar prices) and make it something like 5-10 pieces. Perhaps with occasional shards/crystals/clusters, dark/carbonized matters, different types of materia (not only elemental/attribute ones, which is all I seem to get). Not saying I want stockpile of the rarest stuff, but make them actually...meaningful, y'know? That way it'd feel less of a waste of time on the RNGods' altar for a minion or Gysahl Ring or whatnot otherwise unobtainable pieces.
Not to even mention - 18hr exploration mission for the same price as a 1hr digging in the storehouse? And why are ventures, by in-game description, a currency, inventory items instead of just listed on our Currency tab in the Character window?

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Originally Posted by BreathlessTao

Venture loot need serious reworking, imo. And it's not even a question of adding more items, rather removing a buttload of them. And seriously, stop the madness of DoW/DoM retainers bringing back one piece of fish. Like what the heck. Make the "junk" loot be crafted mats (lumbers, leathers, etc - things that are either unobtainable until a certain level in a certain class and/or are sold only in 60-99 bunches for stellar prices) and make it something like 5-10 pieces. Perhaps with occasional shards/crystals/clusters, dark/carbonized matters, different types of materia (not only elemental/attribute ones, which is all I seem to get). Not saying I want stockpile of the rarest stuff, but make them actually...meaningful, y'know? That way it'd feel less of a waste of time on the RNGods' altar for a minion or Gysahl Ring or whatnot otherwise unobtainable pieces.

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You're getting fish because you're doing quick ventures, which can bring back a whole slew of possible items, including fish. The normal Ventures have a very limited set of items for each one.

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Originally Posted by ispano

You're getting fish because you're doing quick ventures, which can bring back a whole slew of possible items, including fish. The normal Ventures have a very limited set of items for each one.

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Yes, thank you, I've been aware of all this. Doesn't make either of them any less pointless/useless/stupid; especially getting one low-level nq fish 9 out of every 10 quick venture (with the 10th being a piece of junk furniture that now sells for lower on the MB than to NPC vendors).

Mine only bring me back fish... I'm starting to think making them both catgirls might have been something of a mistake...

I got the tiny tapir once, but most of the times I get skins or something useless from normal ventures...

quick ventures are kind of the same thing, but at least I make some money with what they bring me...
unless they bring me another Moogle book for SCH.
I already have 3 of them. damn.

I got the minecart minion, a few mossy weapons, and mostly junk since 2.3.

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Originally Posted by ispano

You're getting fish because you're doing quick ventures, which can bring back a whole slew of possible items, including fish. The normal Ventures have a very limited set of items for each one.

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Retainers do answer the time honored question though.

"How do I mine for fish?" XD

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Originally Posted by BreathlessTao

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Once upon a time, when quick ventures were new, they brought back Coil furniture, primal weapons, pretty much anything that you could get as a drop ever.

Then about two weeks later SE didn't like that so they gave us the pool of items quick ventures can get now. I think they are, unfortunately, satisfied with the modified loot drops for quick ventures. =/

My level 15 gladiator retainer apparently managed to somehow kill Good King Moggle Mog, and bring me back the pugilist weapon ... I wish I could have her as tank in my parties ;)

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Originally Posted by LadyVal

Once upon a time, when quick ventures were new, they brought back Coil furniture, primal weapons, pretty much anything that you could get as a drop ever.

Then about two weeks later SE didn't like that so they gave us the pool of items quick ventures can get now. I think they are, unfortunately, satisfied with the modified loot drops for quick ventures. =/

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Wait... Did they actually patch those out? I've been getting rubbish lately, but thought it was just bad luck.
If they can't bring back primal weapons and such anymore, I might as well stop bothering though.

Yeh DOW/DOM retainers bring back the tiny tapir, I believe miners bring back the miniature minecart

Major thread derailing, but while reading the posts I was listening to this song, and just as I scrolled down I realized how well the beat matches the scene cuttng in TheMunimai's sig:
http://youtu.be/jSBeJ-J5d4g?t=15s

/endofderail

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Originally Posted by Dark-Saviour

Wait... Did they actually patch those out? I've been getting rubbish lately, but thought it was just bad luck.
If they can't bring back primal weapons and such anymore, I might as well stop bothering though.

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Quick ventures can still bring back primal weapons as far as I know, they patched out the ability to get 3-star crafted items since they were kinda released in the patch that the ventures were.

(Not directed at the quoted poster) The whole point of quick ventures is that you are gambling at getting something valuable. If it paid off all the time it would be stupid.

As far as exploration ventures, my PGL has brought back Mossy Stone weapons very often and my BTN has brought back a Floss Silk which is crazy expensive and used in the Stuffed Goblin.

Getting a lot of crap from my retainer as well.. mostly seafood (being a miqo'te makes it even more ironic).
I've gotten the Blazing inferno wall lamp as my best loot so far, but everything else sucks - and i mean suck.
It's sad to see that every time i send my retainer on a "quick exploration" she finds WAY better things than any
of the field explorations..

Benn doing 18hr ventures on all 4 retainers since 2.3 and yet to see anything except COuerl and Hiipo fur from DoW retainers. Except the odd moss weap crafting bit. NOthing new, pre 2.3 used to get occasional interesting item. Not so much with the new ranks of ventures.

mine brought me back confetti...I fired the retainer quicker than a horse on crack :[

pretty sure they (SE) use the whole "venture" thing as a way to maintain control over the economy. Anyone else notice how the wave of items received cross board are usually the same for everyone???

not just saying the oh we all get skins and fish but the pattern of who gets what when is usually the same, like the influx of that mossy stone thing.

Returns from ventures are really poor. That said, I think the return is still higher than using your Seals for anything else. I have 2 retainers that can do Field Exploration XIV and 2 that can only do XIIII. Today, the proceeds from the 4 will be ~ 13K for 1600 seals worth of Ventures (only 1 of them brought back nothing but NPC trash which is better than normal). That is better than buying mats, etc.

At best, it helps with the costs of teleporting.

Return, though, is probably really bad considering I had to craft some high level gear to get the attributes needed. For my miner, I needed to craft all HQ miner gear AND meld gathering to it plus earn another Forager's Dolabra in order to get the Gathering stats needed to do FEXIV.

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Originally Posted by Estellios

Quick ventures can still bring back primal weapons as far as I know, they patched out the ability to get 3-star crafted items since they were kinda released in the patch that the ventures were.

(Not directed at the quoted poster) The whole point of quick ventures is that you are gambling at getting something valuable. If it paid off all the time it would be stupid.

As far as exploration ventures, my PGL has brought back Mossy Stone weapons very often and my BTN has brought back a Floss Silk which is crazy expensive and used in the Stuffed Goblin.

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my botanist brought me floss silk on the first XIV :D

My Gladiator retainer is geared to the teeth. I get the message that her gear is "helping" to acquire rare items. However, to this day she has never brought back anything other than fish.... and the occasional HQ coeurl meat!!! OMG COEURL MEATS!!! YISS!!

I have been doing nothing but quick and getting much better things like. Red Onion Helm my botanist brought it back.

I get fish and crab mostly and from time to time something else that is just as worthless.