Raid Suggestion/Idea inspired by Kefka's Tower in FFVI

I am not quite 50, and haven't (obviously) participated in any raids, although I played WoW for a couple years and finished multiple expansions, so at least I understand how raids operate. I had this idea for a raid similar to Kefka's Tower in FFVI. Now, for those that are fans of this game, you'll immediately grasp what i'm talking about.
In Kefka's Tower at the end of the game, you had to choose 3 parties of four, drop off your airship and go through separate paths (and the parties had to help each other through by hitting switches other groups couldn't get to). With the way it sounds like a 24 man raid works (with 3 groups of 8) I automatically thought about how cool it would be to see a raid like this. You set up your three groups, "drop in" and coordinate together to make it through the initial part of the raids separately. You have three "separate" bosses that are all linked together to where they have to die together (within so many seconds/minutes/etc.).

This obviously wouldn't be the whole raid, just a cool intro to a big raid.

Actually most stuff in crystal tower is designed around 3 groups of 8 each doing their own thing.
One of the reasons i dislike the place, i rather have everyone working together.

Add Kefka's tower after the CT storyline is over! There are a lot of cool mechanics that could be inspired by this. The 3 major bosses needing to die almost simultaneously would be cool.

There is a fight in CT that is set up this way. There are 3 bosses that invulnerable unless you have 4 people stand on a switch. The switch is in another area that has another boss tied to another switch in a 3rd area that has the boss linked to the first switch.

But that is really the only time a mechanic like that is in the game.

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Originally Posted by CYoung187

Add Kefka's tower after the CT storyline is over! There are a lot of cool mechanics that could be inspired by this. The 3 major bosses needing to die almost simultaneously would be cool.

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I think that would cause more trouble than it's worth. I can imagine the slew of drama spewing after every wipe cause of someone "being undergeared" or "not DPSing fast enough"

Kefka Tower (ff6) , X-Dimension (FF5) , Lunatic Pandora (ff8) , Bevelle (ffx-2) , Nyzul Isle (FF11) and many more....
Devs have tonns stuff to redo for FFXIV (can do) + some FFXIV unique would be awesome

Crystal Tower (or Labyrinth of the Ancients to be more precise) was originally designed to be setup to have more of a segmented experience, like the Atomos encounter, but the dev team felt like it would be too difficult to create the majority of the instance in this style so they backed out a lot of those elements.

The fact that I can mention classic FF games and everyone easily understands what i'm referencing and just continues.... I love this game. Dream come true. :P

I would enjoy seeing multiparty parallel dungeons in the same vein as Fork Tower (FFV), Phoenix Cave (FFVI) and Kefka's Tower (FFVI) but understand why they are hesitant about making that style of raid and dungeon content. Consider the Atomos battle in CT1 and how annoying it is to wipe due to no fault of your own and no way of mitigating the mistakes of the other parties, now imagine an entire dungeon that is almost exactly the same. I'd be antsy to if people were asking for such content and I could see the oncoming disaster.

There's a guildhest that does exactly what the OP asks for, don't remember the name though. I hated it cause every time I played it, people would NEVER listen when me or someone else says that all of the mobs had to die at the same time or they fully revive and we start over.


Now imagine doing that for 24 players.

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Originally Posted by MilesSaintboroguh

There's a guildhest that does exactly what the OP asks for, don't remember the name though. I hated it cause every time I played it, people would NEVER listen when me or someone else says that all of the mobs had to die at the same time or they fully revive and we start over.


Now imagine doing that for 24 players.

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Well I suppose there was that bit in CT1 where the skeletons had to die with some distance between them, but even that people would regularly screw up. I would like to see some encounters where people had to split up and some things depended on others, but I can also see why they haven't done this. Maybe they can test the waters with some easy mode version of this where timing isn't necessary, just group A does this, allowing group B to do some other thing, and the consequence would be a delay rather than a wipe if they aren't performing well...

Yes it is something people will screw up. A lot. Failure isn't the end of the world, it will just make success that much sweeter. Being able to preform alliance will probably be out soon as well. I would prefer they not be afraid to make difficult content because people might fail. I would like to see difficult content for something other then 8 man parties.

It's not that people are afraid to fail, it's the sheer difficulty of getting a mass amount of players to actually be coordinated. That's why we are never going to get anything complex for this game. It's bad enough that one mistake=wipe for most of this game. You might have a better chance seeing more complex mechanics in a 4 or 8 man dungeon than a 24 one.


There's also the issue with lag, which makes timing even more difficult to coordinate with a group of people if their internet is crap or if the servers are choking.