I was thinking if they were to implement a training mode for bosses that they should add Maat to the game as a tutorial for players to get into raiding. So after talking about how he could beat four Twintanias at once blindfolded at our age, he dresses up in a twintania costume and brings in some of his underlings to act as the adds. The fight then progresses the same as it would in the actual dungeon, but with a Maat comic twist.
I think it would be helpful to have these tutorials for some of the harder fights in the game that act as gatekeeper bosses (like the aforementioned Twintania).
Suggestion: Training For Coil with Maat
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07-30-2014, 11:38 AMFendredSuggestion: Training For Coil with Maat
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07-30-2014, 11:54 AMRaeanya
And he will use moves like "Configuration" and "Whirlies".
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07-30-2014, 12:25 PMFendred
And in place of aetheric profusion, he will call down the worlds most massive black powder explosive! ^.^
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07-30-2014, 12:31 PMDarkStar
I support this idea! Make it happen, SE.
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07-30-2014, 12:34 PMCid_Grim
Oh God, that old man drove me crazy sometimes. That would be cool though.
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07-30-2014, 12:58 PMAlukah
Who's Maat?
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07-30-2014, 01:36 PMDice_KanzakiThe question you, I, and millions of players would be asking themselves if this happened.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alukah
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07-30-2014, 01:46 PMKrrOld FFXI NPC. You had to do quests, or even defeat him him (or meet other conditions) in a solo instanced fight in order to proceed past the old-expansion level cap.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dice_Kanzaki
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07-30-2014, 10:29 PMFendred... which considering how steep the fatality rate is on gatekeeper fights like Twintania, would make having a training NPC a really great idea. No one wants to go back to fight Twintania with a new group because of its incredibly steep learning curve/fatality rate. :PQuote:
Originally Posted by Krr
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07-30-2014, 10:32 PMFendredThis, my young and adorably innocent friend, is a Maat!Quote:
Originally Posted by Alukah
http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Maat?file=Maat.jpg
That old man has caused many a fatality to fully armed adventurers while wearing only his pajamas! PAJAMAS!
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07-30-2014, 10:47 PMTiggy
This isn't XI. Stop trying to bring more XI stuff here. If something like this did happen it would be a new NPC with new lore for a new world.
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07-31-2014, 12:41 AMMagisYou mean characters like Shatotto and Raubahn? NMs like Bubbly Bernie, Ichorous Ire, and Leech King? The exact same beastmen like the Qiqirn and Mamool Ja (didn't exist before ARR from what I heard)? Goblins with the exact same models from FFXI?Quote:
Originally Posted by Tiggy
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07-31-2014, 02:43 AMFendredWhat's wrong with Maat? Its not like I'm suggesting they use him as a way to block advancement, and I think he certainly added some character to Jeuno back in FFXI. He would probably do the same for whatever city he ends up getting placed in. I wouldn't be surprised if someone like him appeared in Ishgard. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Tiggy
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07-31-2014, 03:05 AMTupsiHey, this isn't WoW either, but look at theQuote:
Originally Posted by Tiggy
WarlockSummoner we got..and basic game play...and very similar battle (Hullbreaker). Oh and also the fact there's quite a few XI NPCs in XIV lore already. I know you probably dislike XI, but you also forgot about the Magitek Reapers, that are the exact design of a FFVI's Magitek and ONLY present in FFVI's world and lore, oh and FFVII's Golden Saucer. It's time to move on from the hate~
This would be pretty interesting because it's an amazing way to implement an old (and very important) NPC in the FF MMO series as a type of training/tutorial instructor. Yoshida did say this is a FAN SERVICE TITLE, remember that?
And the Opo-OpoQuote:
Originally Posted by Magis
The Raptors.
The Mandragoras.
One of the Crab Models
Most Coil Enemies are from FFXII/XIII.
The Gargoyles (XI)
The Imps (XI)
The Tauri mobs (XI)
The Cloyster things (XI)
Fafnir (XII)
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Funny how SE fit them into this world and gave them lore just fine, people really hate XI around here despite XIV already borrowing so much from it and others - It's perfectly fine to borrow from WoW and other FF games, but SE's other successful MMO? Oh lordy no. -
07-31-2014, 05:25 AMTiggyActually I rather liked it. Played for over 5 years.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tupsi
It comes down to this. Monsters, machines, and other minor elements being reused doesn't matter very much, but taking a named character with a specific history and lore and dumping him into another world isn't what this game needs. Even Shantotto was more of a tease than anything since she wasn't a lasting game element. This game needs it's own NPCs, it's own lore, and it's own destiny. Not to mooch off one of XI's best known NPCs just because it would be cool.
There is a big difference between playing homage and blatantly plucking characters from another game. Even Xande and the Crystal Tower characters aren't exact duplicates. You view them through the lense of the Allagan as opposed to directly from FF3. -
07-31-2014, 05:35 AMDefendPopPunkBecause it was written that way, and as such, anything from another FF title can be written in a similar way.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tiggy
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07-31-2014, 06:05 AMTupsiAnd the thing you seem to forget despite saying this?Quote:
Originally Posted by Tiggy
Maat wouldn't be there to break your 50/55/60/65/70/75/80/85/90 level caps, he's there as a 'traveled' adventurer who's faced off with the realms deadiliest beasts and knows all of their tricks and will "use them" to teach you how to handle it. Different lore already. Shanttoto was the same character when she came into Eorzea and even stated the same thing many of the FFXIV only NPCs stated - Interdimensional magic exists and 'the void' is pretty much the link between worlds (no pun intended.)
So plucking that NPC out would be the same as plucking out Raubahn and making him a Grand Company leader of Ul'dah.