Dark Knight class

So who here all thinks it would be awesome to play as a dark knight class, it could be easily made now with the rouge class coming out, all you would need is a gladiator and a rouge, and it could be a new tank class, or possibly another Dps, although it would be nicer to have ad another tank

ROUGE Class :

https://meta-discourse.r.worldssl.ne...413b0a9d34.jpg

ROGUE Class :

http://ffxiv.consolegameswiki.com/im...0px-Rogue2.jpg

seriously one is a color

For my own knowledge (english not my 1st language) I went see more on American and English dictionary

http://dictionary.cambridge.org/

EN : Rouge = a red or pink powder put on the cheeks to make the face look more attractive

US : Rouge = blush

Corrected image of red dress lady in previous post :)

EDIT on topic :

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...night-Proposal

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...ic-Knight-idea

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...e-Future-races

IMO to make a Dark Knight Job. First we need a scythe wielding base class. I'd say the sub req either be LNC or MAR to 15. This would be a heavy armor DPS class with very high single hit damage on high delay with damage boosting skills that are also self destructive.

Atleast that's how I would implement it. Though I'd like role changing secondary soulstones like arcanist has for all the other classes currently in game. Though a couple classes I have problems finding a way to change the role but can change its play use a bit.

Marauder -> Berserker (dps)
Lancer -> Templar (tank)
Conjurer -> Geomancer (dps)
Archer -> Sniper (dps) Applies various debuffs via shots.
Thaumaturge -> Sage (healer)
Gladiator -> Fighter or Soldier (dps)
Pugilist -> Grand Master (tank)

Also I still want Fencer -> Red Mage... >.>

It could be called a Reaper class

Please, for the love of god no scythes. I cannot understand the obsession with using literally the most impractical combat weapon that has ever existed. I would gladly, however, take a dark knight class that uses spears, or lances. Hell, in Bravely Default, dark knights could use katana, maybe DRK could be a two-handed sword job?

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Originally Posted by RitsukoSonoda

IMO to make a Dark Knight Job. First we need a scythe wielding base class. I'd say the sub req either be LNC or MAR to 15. This would be a heavy armor DPS class with very high single hit damage on high delay with damage boosting skills that are also self destructive.

Atleast that's how I would implement it. Though I'd like role changing secondary soulstones like arcanist has for all the other classes currently in game. Though a couple classes I have problems finding a way to change the role but can change its play use a bit.

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I don't actually see DRK using a scythe though, given the fact traditionally the Job used swords or great swords throughout the series - it's use of scythes was something peculiar to FFXI only (and even then it was a later addition made as part of an update). Scythes are already used in the game as tools for BTN anyway, as they should be, given their true purpose as farming tools, so it would have to be removed from BTN to be made into a weapon, wasted resources given SE could just give DRK and it's initial class (whatever that may be), anyway.

Imo, I'm fine if they give it a greatsword and make it a DPS class. Sadly, this game is not using a dual/multi-weapon system, so we gotta pick ONE type of weapon for them.

My idea of a DK is: Active buffs that drain your HP to increase the damage (The similar way the bard's songs drain MP to buff you) or sacrificing a fixed amount of HP to deliver special attacks. Getting "Blood" stacks can also work, using certain HP draining skills, it gives you stacks like the monk's combos. Also: Debuffer. AoE damage.

All I know is they better make dark knight look evil.

That's what they are supposed to look like, not stupid, dumb or even poor looks and not so evil vibe.

I want the job be one where you struggle with the evil inside you but some how keep a good heart.

Seeing that pic...

Reaper + MAR or LNC = DRK
Reaper + THM = Warlock

Yay Magus >.>

And yeah an issue with the new job/class system is main hand determines class. However they could give drk a scythe without changing any BTN main hands as a War Scythe is actually quite different than a harvest scythe. Also there's other class/jobs people want that would use a greatsword. And Katana should really be saved for possible Samurai in the future. Also a sizeable amount of players that want drk in ffxiv do so from playing the job in ffxi where drk had A+ scythe skill rating vs Greatsword's A- rating. Scythe also made darkness chains while Greatsword made light and... um.. we want darkness and evil looking stuff :P

Suggested ability for DRK, level 30:

Togglable ability to override BGM within a 10-yalm radius of yourself with this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yLWdCDMd94c

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Originally Posted by RitsukoSonoda

IMO to make a Dark Knight Job. First we need a scythe wielding base class. I'd say the sub req either be LNC or MAR to 15. This would be a heavy armor DPS class with very high single hit damage on high delay with damage boosting skills that are also self destructive.

Atleast that's how I would implement it. Though I'd like role changing secondary soulstones like arcanist has for all the other classes currently in game. Though a couple classes I have problems finding a way to change the role but can change its play use a bit.

Marauder -> Berserker (dps)
Lancer -> Templar (tank)
Conjurer -> Geomancer (dps)
Archer -> Sniper (dps) Applies various debuffs via shots.
Thaumaturge -> Sage (healer)
Gladiator -> Fighter or Soldier (dps)
Pugilist -> Grand Master (tank)

Also I still want Fencer -> Red Mage... >.>

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If it's going to use a scythe, it should just be MRD > DRK (dps). A number of axes currently have a scythe like look to them (the "Bills"), and the animations and moveset would work well enough with a scythe.

If they're going to make DRK come from its own class, it should be greatsword. Not sure if it's better as a dps or tank. It *should* be a DPS since it's thing is to sacrifice HP for power, but I'd want to main it and it's easier to get in groups as a tank.

oh, and GLD + THM (WHM cross class skills) = RDM

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Originally Posted by RitsukoSonoda

Also a sizeable amount of players that want drk in ffxiv do so from playing the job in ffxi where drk had A+ scythe skill rating vs Greatsword's A- rating. Scythe also made darkness chains while Greatsword made light and... um.. we want darkness and evil looking stuff :P

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What about the sizable amount of people that want the DRK as it was in the first time, i.e with swords and/or greatswords ? FFT was released before FFxi you know..?

And from a practical point of view, a scythe is a terrible weapon u_u

Bah, you people and you're lack of understanding how awesome a weapon a scythe is. It just needs the proper hand holds and curves in the shaft and a nice long blade. People will start to run in terror just seeing your wield one with chaotic grace.

Ahem, that aside. I'm all for greatswords too. While I loved my scythes in FFXI and Chrono Trigger (looking at you Magus <3 ) I'm not sure that they would be chosen to be a Dark Knight's weapon, not with this Dev team anyway. I think they are more likely to use a Greatsword or Bastard Sword type of weapon. I don't see them picking a single sword unless they add a Sword Grip item to be used (if Drk came from Gladiator) in the off hand slot to increase 1 handed sword damage potential. They would also need to really overhaul Gladiator's base ability animations once switched to Dark Knight (because they pretty much go perfectly with Paladin theme only); I wouldn't want to see a Dark Knight flashing with bright light.. doesn't fit the job.

Personally I would prefer it be derived from a new weapon type wielding class. Plus, come one, you gotta have that badass 2-handed huge sword user in the game. It's not a true fantasy MMO without one! *wink*

I personally wouldn't mind if they use a scythe; however, I think they'll have a bigger potential of keeping there roots as a DPS if they use the greatsword instead of the scythe here is an example.

1.) Great Sword: (Class: Knight)
Job # 1: Dark Knight (DPS)
Job # 2: Rune Knight (Tank)

2.) Scythe: (Class: Reaper)
Job # 1: Dark Knight (Tank)
Job # 2: Necromancer (DPS)

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Originally Posted by Brine_Gildchaff

Please, for the love of god no scythes. I cannot understand the obsession with using literally the most impractical combat weapon

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Know what's funny? The Demons in both XI and XIV that can wreck your face seem to use Scythes perfectly fine. Know what else is impractical? Gunblades, large clunky shields, Rapier thin blades (these are parry weapons, not attacking weapons) and so on, yet we still use them.

Greatswords or riot.

Didn't they use scythes in japan as a popular weapon in the past I don't remember what time era.

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Originally Posted by Thaliss

EDIT on topic :

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...night-Proposal

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...ic-Knight-idea

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...e-Future-races

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Forgot one;

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...-How-I-d-Do-It

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Originally Posted by Brightshadow

Didn't they use scythes in japan as a popular weapon in the past I don't remember what time era.

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In a way, not mainstream use - It is however a very popular weapon in Anime/Games from Japan.

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Originally Posted by Brightshadow

Didn't they use scythes in japan as a popular weapon in the past I don't remember what time era.

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You mean the Kama? It is a farming tool.

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Originally Posted by Brightshadow

Didn't they use scythes in japan as a popular weapon in the past I don't remember what time era.

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Hmm.. not sure about that. I know Ninja in many anime may be seen using a chain scythe, which is essentially a small sickle with a length of chain attached to it.

In reality an actual scythe would require a great deal of training and familiarization with the weapon in order to use one effectively in combat. It truly isn't an ideal weapon due to it's size and general unwieldy-ness. If you were using one's like FFXI had primarily, the straight shaft kind, more often than not I think you'd have to worry about slicing yourself with the blade, that is if you are trying to be flashy with one. Which to me, seems like it would be the point. The imposing stature of the weapon, often associated with Death itself, might be a deterrent to potential combatants in and of itself.. assuming you don't look like an oaf with it.

Then there's farming scythes, which in my opinion, can be a far more devastating scythe because of the hand holds and curved shafts that are meant for swinging side to side and maneuvering your body into the swings a lot better. Again would be a hard weapon to use in combat, I think. Both definitely require a lot of physical strength and are fairly large in size. It's basically a specialty weapon. Something not a lot of people would actually be able to master.

Personally though, I think scythes are a great fantasy weapon. You can think up all types and styles that realistically no one would ever be able to actually use, but in fantasy could be twirled about like a baton while looking like a complete bad-ass. There are all kinds of maneuvers that I could think of and have already been thought of for non-realistic scythe combat. I mean, there aren't a ton of characters out there that use scythes.. oh wait, yes, there are. Granted there are likely more fantasy characters that use every other kind of medieval weaponry other than a scythe, but scythes didn't become a popular choice because of their actual effectiveness. Total imagery.

http://wiki.metin2.co.uk/images/0/0a/IG-War_Scythe.jpg

war scythe in an other game. Way more practical, but I'm not sure it's what people and dreaming of

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Originally Posted by HumsterMKX

They make the War Scythe wrongly. The inward curve is the cutting edge.

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which isn't practical in battle. but yeah.

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Originally Posted by Kuwagami

http://wiki.metin2.co.uk/images/0/0a/IG-War_Scythe.jpg

war scythe in an other game. Way more practical, but I'm not sure it's what people and dreaming of

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They make the War Scythe wrongly. The inward curve is the cutting edge.