Voice Chat Segregating PS4 and PC Players

Yes - bringing this topic up again.

I been noticing a lot more recently how voice chat has become end-game recommended. I like voice chat myself - it makes sense when things are moving fast and communication is essential.

I also been noticing how its very hard to maintain good communication with PS4 players who either don't have a PC or laptop for a 3rd party voice chat or even a keyboard. That's right - quite a few of the new players don't even have keyboards and just rely on the Playstation chat.

What do you do when it comes to end game? "Hey PS4 player in our Coil party, just jump up once for yes or jump up twice for no" "After your turn on the silence rotation, run around in circles so we know you went"

I am even seeing Party Finder requirements for "Know the fight and PS4 chat only"

The PS4 console looks fantastic with its game play graphics. But if you really want to call this game multi platformed - best make sure one system doesn't lack what another has.

What we do is use skype, as it runs on phones, and other devices, while this does require other devices, the effect is positive with our group.

What I do is run my PS4 through my X1 and run skype over the sound system for great audio conferencing as my wife and I play in the same room. However, I fully support mumble, teamspeak, ventrillo apps to be brought to PS4/X1 but that might be a long way off if not a pipe dream.

Hope that helps. Skype has very clear calls, and we get a bunch of people on the call at a given time. :)

You can even run Skype on PSPs... not quite sure why Skype is on the PSP, though. That said, I don't use voice chat either because I do have a keyboard and if you can take the time to learn the fight communication only needs be an issue beforehand when arranging strategies.

So one doesn't have a desktop, laptop or even a phone? Why the hell did he buy a PS4 then?

Back when i played on PS3 i would actually use my cellphone to set up TeamSpeak so i could chat with people while i play, almost everyone has a cellphone i find

as a leader of a PS4 FC, its very impractical to use any ancillary device with the ps4 and a microphoned headset.
we run 8 man content just fine. the limitations though are that we can only have 8 people in 1 voice chat.
I've thought about running with an iPhone ear bud connected to my laptop/iPad with skype, underneath my headset. but that sounds like a cluster F* of sound and people potentially talking over one another.

We can only hope that skype/vent/teamspeak come up with something for PS4 that adds capacity to the number of people on PS4 voice chat.

If you know the fight beforehand, you set up chat macros to alert players about things. Voice chat is never 100% needed to do anything (though it can help a lot). As an MMORPG player for around 13 years, I can tell you for a fact that you can get by EASILY without it (as if the fact that Japanese players don't use voice chat very often wasn't enough).

As for people without a keyboard on the PS4, they're playing an MMORPG. It kinda goes without saying that easing your means of chatting becomes a great help. Even when PSO was new on the Dreamcast, having a keyboard to interact was a big help, and that game doesn't demand as much interaction as more modern games. It's not mandatory for said person, but it does require more work to perform up to expectations due to limited communication (along with other limitations involved with difficulty chatting).

For some reason, I don't feel like things like T8 are as 'easy' to do without Voice Chat. There's a degree of coordination there that requires on-the-fly coordination. I know this because I try to coordinate my team through the turn constantly.
(And before you say, 'everyone just has specific tower duty', Hello Allagan Field, which could -isntantly- screw a party over / have too many people stacking a single tower to try and compensate)

Even Ramuh seems to be a coordination check, because I've noticed most whipes from a 2-tank party isn't caused by orbs or the DPS check, but rather from people who just can't follow a simple numbering system.

Most of our FC on pS4 runs TS via App on their smart phones

What I do is to get around this is use a vita and invite my bf to party chat while listening through my PC. Seems to work for me I realize not everyone can do this though..:(

Just download whatever program it is (Mumble, Teamspeak, Vent) on your cellphone, that's what I did and it works perfectly fine.

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Originally Posted by Ticks

Yes - bringing this topic up again.

I been noticing a lot more recently how voice chat has become end-game recommended. I like voice chat myself - it makes sense when things are moving fast and communication is essential.

I also been noticing how its very hard to maintain good communication with PS4 players who either don't have a PC or laptop for a 3rd party voice chat or even a keyboard. That's right - quite a few of the new players don't even have keyboards and just rely on the Playstation chat.

What do you do when it comes to end game? "Hey PS4 player in our Coil party, just jump up once for yes or jump up twice for no" "After your turn on the silence rotation, run around in circles so we know you went"

I am even seeing Party Finder requirements for "Know the fight and PS4 chat only"

The PS4 console looks fantastic with its game play graphics. But if you really want to call this game multi platformed - best make sure one system doesn't lack what another has.

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Not only is this the wrong forum, but the wrong website to discuss this. What you want to do is go to www.teamspeak.com, www.ventrilo.com, and www.mumble.com to voice your concern there.

You might even need to go to www.playstation.com to get them to do multitasking support (if the PS4 doesn't have this, I don't own one so I don't know). Its probably possible as I know for a fact that TS3 has multi-platform support from Cellphone apps to PC. Basically Cellphone and PC users can talk on the same TS3 server.

All SE can do is offer voice ingame. But players on PC are probably still going to use Teamspeak, Mumble, or Vent which leaves PS4 players to their own group. Other MMOs have VOIP but the third party programs are still preferred. Even in Planetside 2 where the ingame voice is actually quite good, players are still using TS.

An option for PS4 players is simply to use a bluetooth headset with their cellphones and download the Teamspeak app (no idea if one exists for Vent or Mumble). Use your home's wifi to avoid data charges.

Just looked at the TeamSpeak3 app for iOS, got horrible reviews. the mumble and vent app made by pandaris BVBA only have 14 reviews but higher than TeamSpeak3

No PC player would use a ingame voice-chat while better programms like TS3 or Mumble exist.
So a ingame voice-chat would solve nothing

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Originally Posted by Geracia2

Just looked at the TeamSpeak3 app for iOS, got horrible reviews. the mumble and vent app made by pandaris BVBA only have 14 reviews but higher than TeamSpeak3

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Here's my review of it:

It works great as long as you have a decent connection to 4G or Wifi. If that connection stutters at all you will get poor performance. What that means is if you're riding around in a car, like a buddy of mine did, while in TS3, you will get some bad reception or come out staticy. If you're sitting at home, connected through Wifi, you will probably have no issues unless you're far away from the wireless router.

I've only been able to personally dink around with the Android version. But the guy I mention before used the iOS version.

It may be a small demographic but there are a few people who are deaf/hearing impaired. Seeing all the "TS3 MANDATORY/HAVE MUMBLE/etc..." in party finder is a little ridiculous. I even confronted said individuals about the idea and asking them about those with hearing issues. All I got was snarky responses like "tough luck lolol, then they can find another party. not my problem." and various others. I know quite a few players who are probably some of the best iv'e seen and they get the boot as soon as they say anything in chat about it. This isn't just a PC vs Console issue. It's a matter of players who refuse to go outside their shell to accommodate their fellow players. I understand that voicechat can make A WORLD of difference but it's by no means necessary and the sooner (albeit inevitably impossible) that the community realizes this and is willing to not be selfish the better we will be as a whole.

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Originally Posted by Ticks

Yes - bringing this topic up again.

I been noticing a lot more recently how voice chat has become end-game recommended. I like voice chat myself - it makes sense when things are moving fast and communication is essential.

I also been noticing how its very hard to maintain good communication with PS4 players who either don't have a PC or laptop for a 3rd party voice chat or even a keyboard. That's right - quite a few of the new players don't even have keyboards and just rely on the Playstation chat.

What do you do when it comes to end game? "Hey PS4 player in our Coil party, just jump up once for yes or jump up twice for no" "After your turn on the silence rotation, run around in circles so we know you went"

I am even seeing Party Finder requirements for "Know the fight and PS4 chat only"

The PS4 console looks fantastic with its game play graphics. But if you really want to call this game multi platformed - best make sure one system doesn't lack what another has.

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I would like to see this happen honestly. But a forum owned by SE isn't the place to pitch it. You would have better luck posting on a Sony forum and suggesting that Sony come up with some kind of software for the PC that lets it connect with the PS4's chat.

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Originally Posted by Darki

I would like to see this happen honestly. But a forum owned by SE isn't the place to pitch it. You would have better luck posting on a Sony forum and suggesting that Sony come up with some kind of software for the PC that lets it connect with the PS4's chat.

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Or convince TS, Mumble, Skype devs to port the software on PS4. Does Sony prohibit third party apps like these?

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Originally Posted by Edli

Or convince TS, Mumble, Skype devs to port the software on PS4. Does Sony prohibit third party apps like these?

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Good question. I'd like to know that myself.

Not using voice chat programs outside of the playstation, I get. Not using a 10 buck keyboard is just laziness or something. :/
I would imagine ps4 only groups are due to the chat built into the system. I use it all the time myself. I found running any other program (skype, TS, etc.) on a phone or netbook just leads to fiddly technical difficulties and I'd much rather use that time to game. >.> Just my $.02.

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Originally Posted by Edli

Or convince TS, Mumble, Skype devs to port the software on PS4. Does Sony prohibit third party apps like these?

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No Sony doesn't prohibit, the more apps the better, the PS VITA has Skype for example.
I just hope Skype app arrives soon on PS4 (Microsoft and Sony said they would like it to happen). Or maybe google will come and step in.

I did play, mumble on laptop and Party on PS4 to make the link between PS4/PC players. You have to set everything to be comfortable.

I have Mumble, TeamSpeak, Ventrilo and Skype on Android Phone and play on Ps4... no problems here.