Wolf marks, PVP exp, etc Sneaky SE.

I've noticed that SE had no problem stating super specfic things like

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The total number of Allagan tomestones of mythology has been increased from 50 to 70.
The total number of Allagan tomestones of soldiery has been reduced from 45 to 30.
The number of tomestones yielded by boss enemies has been adjusted.

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Yet when it came to the Wolves' Den?

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Following the addition of Frontline, the rewards for participating in the Wolves' Den have been changed.

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What are you doing? Increasing PVP exp? Adding marks? What is it?

Then we have frontline rewards

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PvP EXP
By accumulating PvP EXP, you will rise in PvP rank, as well as earn action points. These points can be used to enhance PvP-exclusive actions and traits.

Wolf Marks
Participating in and triumphing in Frontline campaigns will earn you Wolf Marks, which can be exchanged for gear and other useful battle items by speaking with one of the Maelstrom soldiers stationed at the Wolves' Den.

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Also extremely vague. I get they are like this with the frontline rewards, I mean, it isn't even out yet. But the wolves den are modifications, and such should be listed the same as the modified currency drops for dungeons.

Why was this deliverately left to be vague? Could we get some specifics on what is leveling up on PVP and saving marks going to be? Has it been nerfed into easy mode and no longer a token a symbol of overcoming the greatest grind left?

preliminary notes.


they will tell you what they want to tell you. on a basis of what they want you to know.


seeing how all will be revealed in around 4 days, i'm not one to nitpick.

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The following items are now available for trade from Aelina in Mor Dhona at Revenant's Toll (X:22 Y: 6):
Sands of Time / Oil of Time / Wolf Marks

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This is also interesting.

I think it is hard to state exact numbers for pvp exp and wolf marks. Myth/soldiery is a fixed number that drops after a boss; however, I feel like pvp exp and wolf marks vary with the amount you get depending on a variety of things (lvl bracket, winning/loss, etc)

I like that the PvP Challenge Log reward scales with rank now. For lower ranked players its actually a downgrade, but for anyone mid 20's+ it'll be a big boost.

The following items are now available for trade from Aelina in Mor Dhona at Revenant's Toll (X:22 Y: 6):
Sands of Time / Oil of Time / Wolf Marks

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Originally Posted by Logo

This is also interesting.

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Apparently you give a Book to Aelina and you get 1400-something or other, Wolf Marks.

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Originally Posted by Valmar

The following items are now available for trade from Aelina in Mor Dhona at Revenant's Toll (X:22 Y: 6):
Sands of Time / Oil of Time / Wolf Marks



Apparently you give a Book to Aelina and you get 1400-something or other, Wolf Marks.

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Which I will be gladly farming somehow, depending on how said book is obtained, for as long as I can. Dat i100 Monk PvP chest. ;~;

Of course, I'll also have to reach rank 38, but that's just another goal in itself!

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Originally Posted by A_Magical_Unicorn_Rider

Which I will be gladly farming somehow, depending on how said book is obtained, for as long as I can. Dat i100 Monk PvP chest. ;~;

Of course, I'll also have to reach rank 38, but that's just another goal in itself!

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You'll get WAAAAY more marks than you need for the monk chest by the time you reach rank 38.

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Originally Posted by BearGrylls

You'll get WAAAAY more marks than you need for the monk chest by the time you reach rank 38.

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Sure, if I could actually get some matches IN. Jesus christ we need more players doing PvP. It's so much fun, even if I don't win every time.

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Originally Posted by A_Magical_Unicorn_Rider

Sure, if I could actually get some matches IN. Jesus christ we need more players doing PvP. It's so much fun, even if I don't win every time.

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My point is that theres no point in farming whatever the book thingies are for a chest piece that you can't actually wear, because by the time you can wear it you'll have more than enough marks to buy it anyway.

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Originally Posted by Logo

This is also interesting.

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The Wolf Marks look to be there so that you could trade in "The Fury's Anthem" (the old PvP skill reset item) to recoup the Wolf Marks spent on it.

Gotta feel for those who've been grinding out PVP for that gear. Everyone level sync'd and materia/morale now to be ignored not only front lines, but wolves den also. So all its good for now is vanity.

You can trade a "Tome of Fury" or "Fury's Anthem" whatever that is, for 1400 some odd Wolfs Marks.

1) I don't know what it is, and 2) I don't know where it's from.

EDIT: Looks like it's a 1.0 item :/

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Originally Posted by Pylfer

You can trade a "Tome of Fury" or "Fury's Anthem" whatever that is, for 1400 some odd Wolfs Marks.

1) I don't know what it is, and 2) I don't know where it's from.

EDIT: Looks like it's a 1.0 item :/

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It's not a 1.0 item, its an item that was being used until recently which would reset your ability points. Now its free to do so.

Ps4 new players "/ ok so no they wont ilvl sync normal pvp, they would have said they made changes to it. They are adding new instances so people can 4v4 wolfsden and not have to worry about long match making, but the normal pvp 4v4light party and level 50 3 or less party q will still stay the same