Cover and Hallowed Ground?

I've been wondering if it's possible to macro Cover and Hallowed Ground together, so I take all damage from a party member, but am also immune to it? Thinking it would be useful for some random boss mechanics.

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Originally Posted by BristolRuss

I've been wondering if it's possible to macro Cover and Hallowed Ground together, so I take all damage from a party member, but am also immune to it? Thinking it would be useful for some random boss mechanics.

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I think I can confirms that it works, you will be immune. I think better if you use some cooldown like sentinel/rampart/convalescence instead of HG. HG is your panic button, better to use in critical situations.

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Originally Posted by Raffounz

I think I can confirms that it works, you will be immune. I think better if you use some cooldown like sentinel/rampart/convalescence instead of HG. HG is your panic button, better to use in critical situations.

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I think it's more "If I need to use Hallowed Ground right now, I might as well Cover someone too so that there are two invincible people on the field instead of one." instead of just deciding to waste Hallowed at some point :)

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Originally Posted by Donjo

I think it's more "If I need to use Hallowed Ground right now, I might as well Cover someone too so that there are two invincible people on the field instead of one." instead of just deciding to waste Hallowed at some point :)

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Pretty much. Still not really sure what Hallowed Ground doesn't block though; I know things like Ifrit's post- nail attack aren't but don't know too many others. Is Twintania's Fireball covered, does anyone know?

Was watching my FC run some raids last night and was thinking this may be useful for keeping one of the healers alive while I'm panic covering myself.

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Originally Posted by BristolRuss

Pretty much. Still not really sure what Hallowed Ground doesn't block though; I know things like Ifrit's post- nail attack aren't but don't know too many others. Is Twintania's Fireball covered, does anyone know?

Was watching my FC run some raids last night and was thinking this may be useful for keeping one of the healers alive while I'm panic covering myself.

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Twintania fireballs? Um... probably. But you won't be covered from the facepalms you'll get in doing that.

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Originally Posted by BristolRuss

Was watching my FC run some raids last night and was thinking this may be useful for keeping one of the healers alive while I'm panic covering myself.

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How many situations do you find yourself in where you actually needed hallowed, healer is in cover range, and the healer is about to take physical damage (as cover doesn't work on magic)?

Outside of a lot of dead dps and stomps are out of control on Titan or something it doesn't seem like a very common scenario.

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Originally Posted by Alistaire

Twintania fireballs? Um... probably. But you won't be covered from the facepalms you'll get in doing that.

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Why is it facepalm-y? I'm nowhere near running raids so fully admit I don't get all (or even much) of it, just interested if the mechanics would work :)

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Originally Posted by BadRNG

Outside of a lot of dead dps and stomps are out of control on Titan or something it doesn't seem like a very common scenario.

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Maybe I'm misreading but, stomps are magical.

just FYI Cover only work for Physical damage type. it does not work for magical Damage.

Cover is a good PvP skill. It's super niche in PvE, but has it's place. If you don't feel like flash spamming to slow your DPS down in a speed run, you can just cover whoever is spamming the AoE.

However, in 8-man it get can get really hard to target the right person, especially in the heat of the moment. I used cover a lot when bee's would spawn in AK because they usually went right for healer. OMG remember when tome dungeons were somewhat difficult.....I just made myself so sad.

I do this 100 times a day (brayflox novus grind). On the 2nd pull of speedruns before the boss i gather up all 3 mobs pop HG then Cover it works brilliantly and i know all the healers that ive ran with appreciated it as it allows them 10 seconds to DPS with Holy spam

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Originally Posted by BristolRuss

Why is it facepalm-y? I'm nowhere near running raids so fully admit I don't get all (or even much) of it, just interested if the mechanics would work :)

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Because fireball is a very minor move very early in a fight with a couple of very major points it could be needed when you're getting used to the fight.

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Originally Posted by Jubez187

Cover is a good PvP skill. It's super niche in PvE, but has it's place. If you don't feel like flash spamming to slow your DPS down in a speed run, you can just cover whoever is spamming the AoE.

However, in 8-man it get can get really hard to target the right person, especially in the heat of the moment. I used cover a lot when bee's would spawn in AK because they usually went right for healer. OMG remember when tome dungeons were somewhat difficult.....I just made myself so sad.

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Cover is SUPER useful in Halitali HM.

Why? Cos frequently, there will be someone who doesn't come to the mammet to get the Manawall buff in time so you can use Cover to eat the 1000 ton swing on that guy's behalf LOL.

You cannot cover Twin's fireballs.

The aetheric something attack (the balls you have to run into) in Ultima bypasses HG.

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Originally Posted by Toranja

You cannot cover Twin's fireballs.

The aetheric something attack (the balls you have to run into) in Ultima bypasses HG.

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Ah, thank you. I thought it was unlikely but thanks for confirming :)

And @Alistaire, I wouldn't use it as a legit strategy, but watching my FC guys wipe constantly at the start of the fireballs/conflags made me think it might just help enough so they can see more of the fight.

To say you the truth I think that cover is one of the most rare skills to use. About hallowed ground you should save it for yourself because sometimes the healer needs to heal the rest of the party or needs to raise someone and in those moments you can save yourself while waiting for an heal

I sometimes use cover but it's not that common.
I like it very much for T6 though, covering the person that has the bee is quite awesome.