Why even bother sometimes?

I just tried to do a fate... forget it... only one other person showed up, a brd in ilvl 100 gear etc. Nothing lived long enough for me to get in any decent dammage being a lvl 10 Thaumatage. Is this the overpowered gear scenario I have seen others talk about when it comes to doing dungeons etc? Or are fates just that screwed up now?

With level sync the BRD would have been virtually a similar level (assuming you were doing a level 10 FATE). The problem for you being a THM is that all your attacks have cast times while the BRD they are all instant, allowing him/her to jump on mobs before you can get a cast off. Your best bet in that situation would be to just cycle thru mobs and cast a single spell on each one until you've tagged a few, then go back and kill them (if they haven't been killed already by someone else).

I tried doing that but he simply was killing them way too fast... tried a different fate managed to kill one mob while the majority were killed by 3 others with gear just like the brd had. It is frustrating... low xp if youre lucky, and wow 6 seals -_-. I did get annoyed to the point I just logged off rather then just get even more irritated.

That is why I try to avoid some fates if i see someone trying to get exp from it. But not everyone thinks that way, too many are too busy only thinking about themselves.

I can't blame them if the case is atma farming, that is all on SE. Atma grinding doesn't affect all the low lvl fates does it?

If I remember right, it's just in certain areas.

Atmas affect pretty much any area in which you'd expect to find a low-level FATE.

As THM/BLM I would use a keybind to cycle targets and hit each one with Scathe (or Aero if still THM). Can also spam Cure/Physick on the player pulling all the aggro if nothing else.

One thing that bothered me recently was a fate where the enemies were spawning outside of the designated blue circle fate area and running over to it, but ranged dps players were killing those enemies before they even arrived inside the area. As a melee character with my only ranged attack being unavailable at the level of the fate, I was unable to attack anything, because stepping outside the blue circle meant losing my level sync and no longer being part of the fate. I was powerless to watch as the bard and caster killed all the enemies before they came into my range, and as a result I had no participation.

I noticed they also don't seem to take as much damage as you would think they would.

Is there a group of people who think that the Atma chances are equal to the amount of participation in the fate? I have 6 Atma stones, and only about 1/2 was I there for the entire fate. There were a couple where I only had a few hits. I can see where you're coming from. I've got zero.zero interest in fate farming for Atma, so I simply go out there with other classes and get XP. I see the folks trying to get Atmas speed running fates the way they do dungeons. Don't care about anything or anyone but me. I can understand and would probably be equally frustrated if I was trotting fate to fate without a single stone. Yet another reason I don't fate farm for Atma. Trying to enjoy the game otherwise and let the Atma come as it does.

Good luck. I found that Aleport is a great place, regardless of your level. Join these fate farming parties and you can level up pretty quickly there.

I used to get so angry when BLM's would spam blizzard II during fates to aggro all incoming enemies. lol

Now they spam stuff in town lol .... Something is wrong when a FATE is finished with 12 minutes left, which just happened to one I was gonna join.

Aye I must admit the downing down for higher level players should be alot more. I remember doing my Atma and even I struggled with certain fates as they just died within like 2 hits.

You think that's bad huh? I have a worse one. Yesterday there was a WHM aeroing all of the mobs and running in a circle repeatedly. I was there Atma grinding and I'm guessing he was too but the poor low lvl'd pally couldn't hit anything. It was really aggravating to see :/

You could have asked them to team up you know. That way the kill credit is shared.

I try to make sure to let lower level players tag mobs before I attack. That way they get the experience for killing the mob and get to participate. Then the whole region shows up at around 10 minutes and that's it; fate's over in a few seconds.

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Originally Posted by Orophin

You could have asked them to team up you know. That way the kill credit is shared.

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Doesn't help that much. He may get Gold but he will also get 0 EXP. If he is Level 10 and the others in the group Level 50, he doesn't get a single experience point.

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Originally Posted by TomTom1968

Doesn't help that much. He may get Gold but he will also get 0 EXP. If he is Level 10 and the others in the group Level 50, he doesn't get a single experience point.

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What? I'm pretty sure this isn't how it works in a sync'd FATE, though I could be wrong.

For me, I tend to skip most FATE grinding and just do hunt logs and mob grinding until 10, then Guildhests, huntlogs and the oddball FATE until 16, then a combination of dungeons\hunts and some FATEs while waiting. I don't like to hardcore FATE until around 30 at which point you can start going into Coerthas parties. that's where the hard core FATE leveling happens (at least on Balmung). I feel your pain in that it's hard to tag mobs at that level, but it's not going to be that way in a few levels so just hang in there.