We need more Housing Wards!

I usually do not complain on the forums but this problem leaves me no choice. I was fine when housing prices where incredibly high, and even when Gardening was locked behind the system since with hard work an dedication a house was at least obtainable.

Now we arrive at 2.3. Not one new system of the patch but 2 are locked behind Housing again, Chocobo Raising and Personal Rooms. This time however a house is not obtainable anymore on many servers because all wards are full. Every single plot, in every region, in every ward is bought. New Free Companies have no way of obtaining a house and are therefor locked out of new content.

I do not care that you make housing a requirement to access certain features in the game but if you do so at least provide the infrastructure so that every free company has at least the chance to meet these requirements.

I think 2.3 is adding a 6th ward to each of the housing zones.

I want a special ward of nothing but small houses for all the 1 man FCs out there. Im considering doing this since we wont see personal housing anytime soon but there havent been any small houses in the limsa are available in a long time.

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Originally Posted by Antanias

I think 2.3 is adding a 6th ward to each of the housing zones.

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That's correct - SE confirmed a new 6th Ward is being added in 2.3 earlier in the month found here:

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Originally Posted by Camate

Greetings,

In patch 2.3 we will be adding the following new wards:

• The Mist, Ward 6
• Lavender Beds, Ward 6
• The Goblet, Ward 6

We’ll be making adjustments to the prices of plots for each world right up until the patch, and we will make a follow-up with this information at a later time.

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So there you have it, straight from SE. :D

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Originally Posted by Enkidoh

That's correct - SE confirmed a new 6th Ward is being added in 2.3 earlier in the month found here:



So there you have it, straight from SE. :D

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<--gives Enkidoh a ball of yarn :3

Why ty for finding that. I was looking around for that and got distracted once again by the 2.3 trailer lol.

Three new wards total... lolwutSE? Can't we, y'know... just get a new 3 per village?

I really wish it was more than one ward per area, at least on the more populous servers. It's going to make getting a good location really difficult for the FCs that don't have good income between the members/many members who make gil regularly, but still want something bigger than a small house.

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Originally Posted by Ulathskullsplitter

I want a special ward of nothing but small houses for all the 1 man FCs out there. Im considering doing this since we wont see personal housing anytime soon but there havent been any small houses in the limsa are available in a long time.

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do it. especially with private rooms coming. you'll get a main floor, basement and a separate bedroom now so you wont have to partition off sections in your basement for them.

I'll never stop stressing enough about how it was still way too early to allow FCs buy multiple houses, and why SE decided to do this is beyond my comprehension. I'd understand one house per area, but on my server there are free companies that own multiple houses not only in the same area, but even in the same wards. I mean, grats on being rich and all, but smaller free companies like my own who took longer to gather enough gil are left with no options until a new ward becomes available..

But of course, at this point it's too late to correct this, since gil has been spent. Now to hope I'll manage to buy us a small house before they're all taken again when the new ward comes out.

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Originally Posted by Ulathskullsplitter

I want a special ward of nothing but small houses for all the 1 man FCs out there. Im considering doing this since we wont see personal housing anytime soon but there havent been any small houses in the limsa are available in a long time.

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The target for personal housing is 2.38 apparently at the latest. So individual people need to cool their jets and let actual FCs have the plots instead of being selfish jerks. Eliminate all the idiots using FC houses as personal homes and there'd likely be a good deal more plots available.

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Originally Posted by Bluevann

I'll never stop stressing enough about how it was still way too early to allow FCs buy multiple houses, and why SE decided to do this is beyond my comprehension

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FCs cannot buy multiple houses. People within the FC can make alts and with those alts make a new FC and then buy another house. Unless something has changed recently.

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Originally Posted by Lithera

The target for personal housing is 2.38 apparently at the latest. So individual people need to cool their jets and let actual FCs have the plots instead of being selfish jerks. Eliminate all the idiots using FC houses as personal homes and there'd likely be a good deal more plots available.

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I think you're vernacular is pretty strong for someone that has some money and wants to stretch his legs a bit. Quit hating and go make some money.

I have nearly enough for a small it if I broke off my FC and solo leveled one of my own. I don't do it though because that's not what the system is there for. There's people who got themselves medium houses (I bet there's even someone who solo purchased a mansion). That's rediculous and takes plots from legit FCs.

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Originally Posted by Lithera

I have nearly enough for a small it if I broke off my FC and solo leveled one of my own. I don't do it though because that's not what the system is there for. There's people who got themselves medium houses (I bet there's even someone who solo purchased a mansion). That's rediculous and takes plots from legit FCs.

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I think anyone who has a FC is free to have a lot.

The amount of effort a 1 man FC puts in order to obtain a FC house is going to be much more than a 2 man FC and so forth. Meaning if a 1 man FC puts in that much effort to get a large FC lot, he deserves it.

Just look at the amount of work required. A 500 man FC has 20,000 default vendor slots to use on the market board while a 1 man FC has 40 default vendor slots. If that large FC used just 1% of those slots towards FC housing, that is still 200 default vendor slots, 5 times that of a 1 man FC with default slots.

Legit FCs greater than 1 person, technically should be able to coordinate their fund generation methods far more efficiently than 1 person. You should not be pointing fingers at these individuals as your problem because if your legit FCs did any sort of coordination, they could have easily obtained a large plot way before any of the 1 man FCs could.

1 man FCs with just 40 default vendor slots had the biggest obstacle to leap while the larger the FC, the smaller the leap required.

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Originally Posted by Bluevann

I'll never stop stressing enough about how it was still way too early to allow FCs buy multiple houses, and why SE decided to do this is beyond my comprehension. I'd understand one house per area, but on my server there are free companies that own multiple houses not only in the same area, but even in the same wards.

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I would go back to those houses and look very closely.
Those may look like the same FC, but in reality they are not. People with large FCs created 2ndary FCs with houses for the other people. An FC can only have 1 house. I would love to have the chance to get a 2nd house but there is definitely a 1 hour per FC limit.

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Originally Posted by cloverkitty

I would go back to those houses and look very closely.
Those may look like the same FC, but in reality they are not. People with large FCs created 2ndary FCs with houses for the other people. An FC can only have 1 house. I would love to have the chance to get a 2nd house but there is definitely a 1 hour per FC limit.

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Originally Posted by joshsecret

FCs cannot buy multiple houses. People within the FC can make alts and with those alts make a new FC and then buy another house. Unless something has changed recently.

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Hm, I guess this is what they did then. All I know is that there are people who do it. For example, among my friends there is one whose LS(FC?) owns two houses, medium and small, and they put them for rent to others. I may have seen different FCs with identical tags. Thanks for the clear up, it has been twisting my liver for months.

My fear is that they are underestimating how many fcs want to buy a house. The new wards that they add will fill up too quickly and some of us will still be left homeless.

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Originally Posted by Nane-chan

My fear is that they are underestimating how many fcs want to buy a house. The new wards that they add will fill up too quickly and some of us will still be left homeless.

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I'm sure they will add more as needed in the future.

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Originally Posted by Xystic

I'm sure they will add more as needed in the future.

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As I understood the originally planned system, more wards would be automatically added as needed. That would have been a great system. As it is though, wards are being added way too slowly, not "as they're needed" at all.

Also, they aren't addressing issues of over population and under populations by adding more wards where more are needed compared to the less busy cities that don't need as much. On many worlds, Limsa is by far the most popular ward and people will be complaining a day after these new wards are open that yet again there are no free spots in the most popular area while the new wards in the other cities will probably be mostly empty.

I think Limsa needs at least 2 new wards on every server and again as regularly as needed. Not saying don't give Grid and Uldah some love too but if one is more needed than the others give it more so it can meet the demands placed upon it.

So is everyone just forgetting that they said when new wards are added they have to go through the same 90 day price decrease that happened when it first launched. So the most expensive servers will still have 100mil price tags when they go active.......

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Originally Posted by Lithera

Eliminate all the idiots using FC houses as personal homes and there'd likely be a good deal more plots available.

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You snooze you loose.

If it's a Free Company and they have the gil, then they can get a house. Those are the rules.

Sad to say one new ward for each won't help a thing on pheonix server, limsa is total sold out except large since it's launch, and I know of at least six FCs who will be gunning for a limsa house moment it opens.

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Originally Posted by mbncd

I think Limsa needs at least 2 new wards on every server and again as regularly as needed. Not saying don't give Grid and Uldah some love too but if one is more needed than the others give it more so it can meet the demands placed upon it.

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I actually think they should address this per server and not overall, for a better resource management. It's only legacy servers and maybe two more that need extra wards.

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Originally Posted by mbncd

I think Limsa needs at least 2 new wards on every server and again as regularly as needed. Not saying don't give Grid and Uldah some love too but if one is more needed than the others give it more so it can meet the demands placed upon it.

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It's possible there isn't a way to just add a ward to one city. It depends on how it's programmed. The fact they decided to change The Goblet rather than stack more Limsa Wards tells me there's something unfavorable about just adding Wards when there's plenty of plots available in the other cities. Each Ward might take up a default minimum amount of memory/bandwith. 10 FCs want Limsa homes...LImsa full...10 plots exist between Grid and Ul'Dah...why should they waste server resources on more Limsa Wards? If you wanted a home in a certain subdivision but they all got bought up would you demand they expand the subdivision so you can buy a home? No, you buy one in another subdivision.

Greetings,

After adding the new ward we will continue to monitor housing area conditions and add further new wards if necessary.

Has it been mentioned whether or not the new ward will be at the original ridiculous price, or the current lowered price?

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Originally Posted by Raldo

Has it been mentioned whether or not the new ward will be at the original ridiculous price, or the current lowered price?

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I think it's a safe bet, and I'll even say 100%, that it will be at the current price.

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Originally Posted by Odd

I think it's a safe bet, and I'll even say 100%, that it will be at the current price.

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Originally Posted by Alukah

I actually think they should address this per server and not overall, for a better resource management. It's only legacy servers and maybe two more that need extra wards.

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And maybe more FCs should move into The Goblet. Unless those "full" server wards are actually full. If not, well ..... SE should just not add anything until all housing zones are actually full.

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Originally Posted by Raldo

Has it been mentioned whether or not the new ward will be at the original ridiculous price, or the current lowered price?

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It will be the original prices.

If you have noticed the "repossessed" lots that have been happening recently on most servers. They are put back on the market at full price with the reductions occurring on the same schedule as before.

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Originally Posted by Baneus

And maybe more FCs should move into The Goblet. Unless those "full" server wards are actually full. If not, well ..... SE should just not add anything until all housing zones are actually full.

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Every plot in every city in every ward is full on Balmung. Has been that way for about a month and a half now.

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Originally Posted by Camate

Greetings,

After adding the new ward we will continue to monitor housing area conditions and add further new wards if necessary.

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When will we see housing wards in Coerthas or Mor Dhona? Will the ward-to-ward pricing be the same regardless of region?

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Originally Posted by Dahass

Every plot in every city in every ward is full on Balmung. Has been that way for about a month and a half now.

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See. That's a valid reason for needing new Wards. Whereas my own server, Behemoth, has only just started filling Ward 3 in The Goblet.

I think when Mor Dhona officially becomes the new Jeuno we'll get it. Storywise, there's a lot of building of the city left to do anyway it seems to me.

There's one Mansion in my FC's Ward that says "2 Lala 1 House" in the description... it does seem like such a waste. I wonder if personal housing will be in the same wards or if new locations/wards will be added for this? Will the act like the Residential Districts of FFXI?

/think
this is what the patch 2.1 notes says:

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Each residential district is divided into a number of identical wards. Even if the plot of land you desire has already been purchased in a certain ward, it may still be available in another.

Additional wards will be added as required based on fluctuations in the population and economy of each World.
* The price of newly added plots will be based on the starting prices for that World.

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