Prepare your Ninja Macro

So you prepare to make your Ninja Macro due to the Ninja Symbol system for their Job skills.


Short version:

Given Symbol 1, 2, 3, 4 and so on..

Perform in right order to successful use skill

Wrong Order = Epic Fail.

So easiest way to get the right order to use your Ninja skill is to put those symbols into a Macro.

(PS this is why I'm just giving the Ninja Job the Title... "The Macro Job")

They have to have a set amount of combinations that work, so this could totally be an issue. The only ways I see around it are either making them not able to be macro'd, or make it so if there's say 4 Mudra (or what ever they were called, I can't remember) but have say, 8+ working combinations. That way its actually more efficient in hotbar spaces to not have them macro'd

I just see all the narutards doing the same thing they did in FFXI :x -face desks- those annoying /p ninja macros x_x

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Originally Posted by ShinigamiKayla

I just see all the narutards doing the same thing they did in FFXI :x -face desks- those annoying /p ninja macros x_x

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Hmm interesting. Tough I would prefer if it would be un-macroable I can surely see SE with their attitude:

"We want everybody to be able to enjoy the Ninja! That's why it won't be too hard to cast mudra's. And we will allow macro's too."

/ac "Utsumei Ichi" <me>

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Originally Posted by Zaiken

/ac "Utsumei Ichi" <me>

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Utsusemi: Ichi

With how often macros fail to trigger everything in the list, I feel like this is a very bad idea. Also, if the hand signs are tied into the GCD, macroing is a horrible idea.

KAGE BUNSHIN NO JUTSUUUUUUUUU

is what you're going to see...a lot.

Believe it.

Seeing as there's CD between skills, you'd have cast time of 4sec+ to make a combo of 4 mudras. So my guess, there's just 3-mudra-combos, so it's like standard combos.
They would need to be quite strong, or it wouldn't be any point in using them, or your DPS would drop a lot.
But might be something along the line of BRD loosing dps, with ballad/paeon.
We'll see...most NIN will be really bad though; more so than most DRG, currently :)

Ya the bad Ninjas will most likely be the people who cannot master the Symbol system to use Ninja skills.

Current classes/jobs now only require the push of a button but here with Ninja you'll have to perform a mini-quick time event to cast your skills with the symbol system.

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Originally Posted by Radacci

Seeing as there's CD between skills, you'd have cast time of 4sec+ to make a combo of 4 mudras. So my guess, there's just 3-mudra-combos, so it's like standard combos.
They would need to be quite strong, or it wouldn't be any point in using them, or your DPS would drop a lot.
But might be something along the line of BRD loosing dps, with ballad/paeon.
We'll see...most NIN will be really bad though; more so than most DRG, currently :)

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You give dragoons too much credit...

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Originally Posted by SDaemon

You give dragoons too much credit...

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Well, since i mostly go as DRG, i don't really see those other shitty DRG, that ppl are talking about :)
I see a lot of shitty PLD though...like trying to tank Titan, with Riot Blade (holding aggro is really hard)
But i have seen some MNKs that dont position themselves, and heard about DRG using chaos thrust, without combo.

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Originally Posted by EdwinLi

Ya the bad Ninjas will most likely be the people who cannot master the Symbol system to use Ninja skills.

Current classes/jobs now only require the push of a button but here with Ninja you'll have to perform a mini-quick time event to cast your skills with the symbol system.

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If it works like the monk combos, macroing them would be a bad idea.

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Originally Posted by EdwinLi

Ya the bad Ninjas will most likely be the people who cannot master the Symbol system to use Ninja skills.

Current classes/jobs now only require the push of a button but here with Ninja you'll have to perform a mini-quick time event to cast your skills with the symbol system.

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I don't think it wil be a QTE but rather that each skill will give a mudra and you will have to perform the skills in a particular order to get the good mudra combo and be able to use the finisher.

Based loosely on the Blitz combo of the character Sabin Figaro from FFVI.

http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/B...nal_Fantasy_VI)
http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Sabin_Rene_Figaro

http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb2...9/Sabin_IV.jpg

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Originally Posted by Destinova

Based loosely on the Blitz combo of the character Sabin Figaro from FFVI.

http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/B...nal_Fantasy_VI)
http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Sabin_Rene_Figaro

http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb2...9/Sabin_IV.jpg

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I so wanted to say the same thing, but I was beaten to it. I did make that comment first upon hearing what it would be like. That makes me very excited to give it a shot in that case.

For mudras to not feel clunky they would have to be all off the global cooldown. The mudras themselves probably don't do anything on their own (judging by the video that sees the ninja cast a series of them before actually attacking) so if they were on the GCD the ninja would be standing there doing nothing for 5-10s each combo... I really don't see that happening.

The macroing of specific combos is a potential problem though... the only way I see of getting around that is by allowing for specific mudras to act as modifiers that would make it much more desirable to be able to change the combos as the situation requires (so a combo using a certain set does a single target ice attack whilst switching one element in the combo makes it aoe, etc.).

Honestly what I find odd about this system is that it's actually very similar to the puppetmaster's mechanic in FFXI.

/ac "Earth Mudra" <t>
/ac "Fire Mudra" <t>
/ac "Wind Mudra" <t>
/ac "Water Mudra" <t>
/ac "Heart Mudra" <t>
/ac "Captain Planet" <me>

I have to say no to combat macros. They are very unreliable, don't trigger off global cool downs correctly and can't be set to have a decimal value. You'd never be able compared to someone who memorized everything and does it manually.