Keynotes of the interview:
- Rogue is basically like the Thief class in the series
- Rogue's combat pace won't be faster than other classes
- Yoshida tended to describe Ninja as a unique class instead of a difficult class
- The introduction of Rogue and Ninja is to coordinate with the implement of new PVP content in 2.3 and 2.4
- They did consider to bring in the Musketeer class
- Yoshida wanted players to image how the Ramuh and Shiva battles would look like
- Yoshida felt players' temporal departure was a natural thing
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Yoshi-P E3 2014 Interview about Ninja/Rogue
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06-11-2014, 09:32 PMOrtaYoshi-P E3 2014 Interview about Ninja/Rogue
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06-11-2014, 11:01 PMTupsi
Interesting little bit where the interviewer said "2.3 coming later this year."
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06-11-2014, 11:31 PMXatsh
Yoshida said having limited content to where players are forced to play another game will encourage them to continue to play XIV longer.....
That statement almost seems like a complete disconnect from reality, as it is the main reason ppl leave mmos for other ones. -
06-11-2014, 11:36 PMOrtaIt's bit ambiguous, I believe that 2.3 is coming soon after E3.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tupsi
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06-12-2014, 12:32 AMTheMunimai
Interesting notes here!
Either way, it all sounds pretty cool! :) -
06-12-2014, 01:17 AMVaerlolQuote:
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06-12-2014, 03:39 AMTemptingIts so hard to balance it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Xatsh
#1 Its too easy, and people rush and have nothing to do = Quit.
#2 Its too hard, people do it for a while but say screw it = Do something else or potentially Quit
I personally would say #1 is the worse of the two just because if nothing at all to do there is no point paying for a subscription.
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06-12-2014, 03:46 AMLlenCoramI'm honestly starting to wonder if we'll ever get it at all. The recent aethernet change from Coral Tower to Marauder's Guild was sort of a giant slap in the face for those of us waiting for MSK.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tempting
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06-12-2014, 03:58 AMNaharaTaking time off from one thing to go do something else for a little bit does help to avoid burnout.Quote:
Originally Posted by Xatsh
Whether that's something that should be incorporated into game design or not is a topic I'll not touch with a 10ft pole. -
06-12-2014, 04:02 AMMalamasalaTheoretically it is easy to balance it. Make one easy way to play and one hard way to play. Everyone gets what they want, and can play exactly as much as they want.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tempting
In reality people are stupid. Even if they love hard content, they will pick easy content just because they tell themselves that not having the best items on the server means you've lost. (Alternatively be cheap and want to finish fast to cancel subscription a few months) -
06-12-2014, 04:20 AMKhaoticsuccubusSounds to me like he has confidence in the quality of his game rather. If there is one thing FF14 arr has impressed me with, it's the huge amount of content released with every major patch (hell even before a major patch at that). This is something that NO other MMO has been able to accomplish. And I for one am very pleased to see Yoshida kept his promise to release classes with patches rather than just expansions.Quote:
Originally Posted by Xatsh
For those upset about the lack of MSK... technically when Yoshida first made his comment about releasing more classes he specifically said that he wanted to implement a stealth class first and foremost, as he thought the game severely lacked one. He also said that he felt obligated to release a gun class as well since there is already a guild in the game (didn't seem particularly enthused about it though). It makes sense though to go easy on the class releases for pvp reasons when the class released is the one and only stealth class. Stealth adds a whole new level of complication to pvp after all.
I'm more interested in his comment about the gun class in the interview. He stated that it would be similar to a mage class.
"So now, as Yoshida said, they want to start with Rogue instead of a class with guns which will be similar to mage class that uses magic, but he mentioned they did have the plan to introduce in new class with guns or sort of stuff."
When I thought of a gun class, I suppose I thought it would play rather similar to archer/bard but... this is rather interesting as well :) Gun Mage? -
06-12-2014, 04:57 AMKitruI'm pretty sure that change was simply put there to make it easier for people not intimately familiar with Limsa to navigate the city via the aethernet, just like they added which zones the various gates lead to. Furthermore, there isn't a MSK guild there at the moment, so the only thing there is the MRD's guild so it makes sense to name it the MRD's guild. If/when they add MSK, if the guild is also inside Coral Tower, I could easily see them either calling the aethernet node "Coral Tower (Marauder's Guild and Musketeer's Guild)" or "Marauder's Guild and Musketeer's Guild". This is, of course, operating under the assumption that the MSK guild will actually be in Coral Tower instead of a new building entirely (maybe connected to Coral Tower but not in it).Quote:
Originally Posted by LlenCoram
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06-12-2014, 05:02 AMRyihitoLooks like someone didn't read it carefully.Quote:
Originally Posted by Xatsh
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06-12-2014, 05:09 AMjwilliams133I think it's interesting players are getting upset about certain "promised" content not having a set release date within an MMO. Games within this genre last years. This version of this game isn't even a year old, yet. Let's chill out a little...Quote:
Originally Posted by LlenCoram
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06-12-2014, 05:11 AMNaytotbh that 'muskateer' guild has been out for more than a year...Quote:
Originally Posted by jwilliams133
To have that class scrapped after 2-3 years for ARR (Arcanist is totally different from what it was thought to be in 1.0) and then come out with a class that didn't even have a guild in the first place has pissed off more than you can imagine in your 'one year'. -
06-12-2014, 05:17 AMLlenCoramAs Nayto said, it's been a lot longer than one year. It's been four years. It doesn't matter that "this version" of the game is only a year old. What matters is that the Coral Tower is still in game, still houses the Musketeer guild, and we continue to get hints and teases that we may one day see a gun class.Quote:
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Then they go and give us a different class entirely that wasn't in the game at all.
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06-12-2014, 05:39 AMSwagcityI take alot of flak for saying this, but I truly foresee XIV facing hard times yet again. Yoshi can afford to do this due to the lack of competition; MMO wise. However, when that comp finally arrives and ppl move on like in XI............Quote:
Originally Posted by Xatsh
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06-12-2014, 08:34 AMjomoru
Those concerned about MSK Rogue and ninja were introduced via plot point in 2.2 and will be playable in 2.4. 2.3's plot could easily introduce our would be gun class in story and we see it show up in 2.5
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06-12-2014, 08:45 AMXatshXIV is truly successful because there is no good competition currently. This game has about 1/10th of the endgame content it should have... and they show no signs of adding more relevenat content. They are content with the constant lack of content and release of short lived content.Quote:
Originally Posted by Swagcity
The only people who have enough content are those playing 1-3 days a week. or those playing under 2hrs a day.
Oh and on XI they lost less then 5% of thier population to WoW. IT was the only mmo on the market to not lose hardly anything. But this game has little staying power compaired to XI. It is like an arcade game atm, XIV is nothing more then a side game to spend time after work. It is its biggest weakness. -
06-12-2014, 11:10 AMKingAhmoseTheFirst
hmmmm.... So I kind of figure the Gun class will be like Gun Mage from FFX-2, basically it was a gun user blue mage...
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06-12-2014, 01:00 PMVallugThen dont play? Having been through all the MMOs I find this one shelling out content pretty quickly, I love it and when we finally do get the expansion I know my mind is going to be blown. But like every mmo forum there will be doomsayers.Quote:
Originally Posted by Xatsh
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06-12-2014, 01:55 PMsilentwindfrdude, it's nice to not forget some important point:Quote:
Originally Posted by Nayto
1) musketeer was the next class added in the V1... when it was tanaka at the head of the project! when the V1 did.... fail. they did scrap all the add they had planned for rework the game.
2) why they did bring Arcanist instead of Musketeer? lack of magic class, was always the will of yoshida to add more magical class first.
3) why do rogue come first? because actually we already have 3 ranged dps class (2 magical and 1 physical) and only 2 melee dps (both physical) add another ranged class now will simply increase the trouble of balance between ranged vs melee (actually in melee it's almost insta dungeon in DF)
4) finally, i prefer they take more time for make the musketeer really unique, instead to have an archer with a gun.
however, you can be sure that after the rogue/ninja, the musketeer must be the next in line for the class add. Dark knight, samurai, red mage,... will probably not come out before the expansion.
even if i doubt it's possible, maybe (and i say a huge maybe) today we will learn from yoshida that the musketeer will come for the 2.4-2.6 who know! keep hope! -
06-13-2014, 05:30 AMKhaoticsuccubushttp://i.imgur.com/Dex1LhH.jpgQuote:
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